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Archive 01-14-2009 10:39 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Of the known dates of deaths of the players pictured on the Old Judge cards (estimate 70% of all players births and deaths are known) only two players lived in to the 1960's. Who was the last player to say &quot;I was pictured in the Old Judge set&quot;? and who was second to last?<br><br>Once the question is answered correctly feel free to post another question about the N172 set.

Archive 01-14-2009 10:49 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Hoy

Archive 01-14-2009 10:56 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Hoy is correct Fred. Do you know who the other player was that lived in to the 1960s?

Archive 01-14-2009 10:57 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Dan--That's a trick question. Hoy couldn't say anything.

Archive 01-14-2009 11:00 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>HA! I hadn't even thought of that.

Archive 01-14-2009 11:34 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>George Winkleman -

Archive 01-14-2009 11:35 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Fred WINS! Now he has to contribute an OJ Trivia question.

Archive 01-14-2009 11:39 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Here's an easy one. Which player depicted on an OJ died at the youngest age? <br><br>

Archive 01-14-2009 11:47 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Art Whitney's dog!<br><br>No...he wasn't a player.

Archive 01-14-2009 12:21 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Im just guessing but I think its John Weyhing,he was only 20

Archive 01-14-2009 12:40 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>I think John is right with John Weyhing. On a related note, Alex McKinnon may have already been dead by the time his 1887 Old Judge card was distributed. He passed away in July of 1887.<br><br>-Rhett

Archive 01-14-2009 12:51 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>I think McKinnon was about 30 when he died. <br><br>Honorable mention to Ferguson at 27.<br><br>Your turn John!

Archive 01-14-2009 12:54 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Weyhing was only 20,Im sure of it. 1869-1890. Don't know for sure if hes the right answer but I am at work right now so its hard to check

Archive 01-14-2009 01:00 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Im guessing by Fred's change that my answer was right so I'll say<br><br> who was the youngest player from the set to appear in the majors?

Archive 01-14-2009 01:05 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Bill Bishop?

Archive 01-14-2009 01:08 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Correct Dan,your turn again

Archive 01-14-2009 01:14 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>This player only played three major league seasons (1889-1891)...all three seasons in Boston and all three in a different league. Who is he?

Archive 01-14-2009 01:18 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Bill Daley <br><br> can someone else ask the enxt question,im supposed to be working at a busy restaurant right now <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

Archive 01-14-2009 01:20 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>You are good!

Archive 01-14-2009 01:32 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Ok,I got a sec.<br><br> Which player from the set played the most recently(or furthest date from the set,whichever way you want to say it)

Archive 01-14-2009 01:34 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Hmmm...without looking I'll say Arlie Latham?

Archive 01-14-2009 01:54 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>John--In the majors or just in professional baseball? Jim O'Rourke and Lave Cross both played until at least 1912.

Archive 01-14-2009 01:59 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Just in the majors,believe it or not Jay it was after 1912

Archive 01-14-2009 02:08 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>Clark Griffith

Archive 01-14-2009 05:16 PM

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Griffith is right!<br><br> How about which player was related to a US President? A hint,he was the star in the book written by one of the board members called A Card's Life. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

Archive 01-14-2009 05:39 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>great thread!<br> How did Mckinnon die? Whats Winklelman's autograph worth? I like Arlie Latham cause he bridges the gap between old Judge and tobacco (along with Clark Griffith)<br>

Archive 01-14-2009 05:39 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>Connie Mack <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

Archive 01-14-2009 05:53 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Darn it... I go away after my last edit and look at all the good questions that came up! Yes John, you were right. For some reason or other I thought Weyhing was much older until I double checked the answer. Now back to you Alec.... The double jeopardy categories are:<br><br>Players depicted in OJs born in another country<br><br>Players depicted in OJs that died in the 1800s<br><br>Players depicted in OJs that....<br><br>

Archive 01-14-2009 06:00 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> McKinnon died of typhoid fever mid-season 1887,shortly after his card was released. Pictures for the 1887 Pirates team set were probably taken early-May because Jim McCormick isnt pictured with the team(Chicago uni),he started playing for them May 13th that year, and neither is Ed Beecher who joined the team in late June but Bill Bishop is on the team and he was gone by Mid-June<br><br><br><br> The old judge set and t206 set both include Latham,Duffy,Griffith,Beckley and William Hart.<br><br><br><br> Connie Mack is not the right answer,sorry

Archive 01-14-2009 06:04 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>sorry, Mack wasnt the answer to your question, I forgot to put him in my list of players that bridges that gap. I didnt know about Hart being in both sets!

Archive 01-16-2009 08:59 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Elmer Cleveland!<br><br><a href="http://www.vintagecardprices.com/card-profile/index.php?card_id=64511" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.vintagecardprices.com/card-profile/index.php?card_id=64511</a><br><br>

Archive 01-16-2009 10:31 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Why does Charlie Bennett have only one pose, and it's with Boston (not a trivia question, but a factual one)?

Archive 01-16-2009 12:00 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>Barry,<br><br>Sort of odd that such a massive star in Detroit as Bennett did not have a Detroit card.<br><br>One of my HOF moments in collecting came around because of Charlie Bennet.<br><br>As people know...I collect Phillies. As a result, I also collect the Ruby Legs who, in a very roundabout and convuluted way, became the Phillies. Bennett played for the Ruby Legs.<br><br>About 10 years ago, I stopped into the HOF for one of the inductions(Winfield, et. al.) and was wandering around the museum. One of the display pieces showed a very nice pocket watch and credited it with belonging to Kid Nichols. If I recall the watch face was inscribed with Bennett's name. I asked a docent if the watch was Nichols or Bennetts...off to the archives I went. With a bit of talking and begging, I found my way into the basement we finally found the donation record. The watch was indeed Nichols' watch...Apparently Charlie Bennett gave Kid the watch. Nichols kept it and used it as his own. The donor thought that the watch was given to Bennett for some accomplishment in Detroit or Boston after his playing career. BTW, Bennett and Nichols played together for Boston.<br><br>Joshua

Archive 01-16-2009 12:13 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Good story Joshua...but the mystery of why there is no Bennett card issued before 1889 remains.

Archive 01-16-2009 04:11 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>Does it have something to do with him being traded from Detroit? Im assuming it has nothing to do with him losing his legs?

Archive 01-16-2009 06:29 PM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>Bennett should have been issued an 1887 card just as teammates Lady Baldwin, Pete Conway, Pretzel Getzien, and Deacon White should have. All, except Bennett, would be picked up in 1888. Other players who joined the set later than expected include Anson, Ewing, and many other less notable players.<br><br>Here are two versions of the same Bennett pose. I'm happy to call the one on the left mine while all other N172 and N173 examples I've seen match the copy on the right. The difference being the presence of &quot;Detroit&quot; on the uniform. A little more history on Bennett's pose can be learned on page 150 of the book.<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232159285.JPG" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>Best Regards,<br>Joe Gonsowski

Archive 01-17-2009 03:55 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Joe- I am most impressed that you spell &quot;Getzien&quot; correctly. I don't believe a single baseball card got it right. As you noted in the book, everyone misspelled it.

Archive 01-17-2009 05:38 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>OJ players born outside of the US: Pop Smith was born in Digby Nova Scotia in 1858. (Canada wasn't officially a country until 1867)

Archive 01-17-2009 06:50 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Max--Our attorneys inform us that Smith's bio says he &quot;came out of Canada&quot; not that he was born in Canada. Thus, assuming he left Nova Scotia at an age after nine we are correct. And while we are at it, none of us inhaled. LOL

Archive 01-17-2009 07:31 AM

Old Judge Trivia Question Thread
 
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>I think there were a few OJ players born outside the US... there was that &quot;eskimo&quot; guy...

Archive 01-17-2009 07:44 AM

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Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Jay<br><br>Digby Nova Scotia is home to some of the highest tides in the world. My spouse is also from about 10 miles from there. While I've been to Digby many times, I've yet to see a Pop Smith memorial. <br><br>Book order is on the way, but if I recall correctly without the benefit of the book (and sans google), Tip O'Neill and O'Rourke were also Canadian.<br><br>Max

cozmokramer 09-29-2009 06:25 PM

Through some odd search I came up with this thread.

Incredible trivia information to know now that i've been collecting OJs.

I'd love to see this revived to learn more about the OJ set...

Anyone?

Rich Klein 09-29-2009 06:35 PM

This will be an easy one
 
Which member of the Old Judge set was a pennant winning manager in more than one league and died before 1900?

Regards
Rich

kkkkandp 09-29-2009 08:20 PM

There Were Two, Right?
 
Harry Wright (the obvious one, I think) in the NA and the NL; Bill McGunnigle in the AA and the NL.

Joe_G. 09-29-2009 09:35 PM

I'll throw one out there that can be easily looked up, but interesting none-the-less.

How many left handed single-season 40 game winners are there? Which ones can be found in the Old Judge set.

kkkkandp 09-30-2009 04:36 AM

One Wolverine, Of Course! : )
 
Single-season strikeout leader, Matt Kilroy; Ed Morris and Detroiter Charles Busted "Lady" Baldwin.

Here's one...what member of the Old Judge set is the all-time leader in hit batsmen?

Troy Kirk 09-30-2009 09:10 PM

Phil Knell with 54 hit batsmen in 1891.

Here's another Old Judge question. Who is the only Hall of Famer wearing a glove in an Old Judge pose?

kkkkandp 10-01-2009 05:19 AM

Knell Is Incorrect
 
Knell is a single-season leader, not the all-time leader.

And Delahanty is wearing a glove.

cozmokramer 10-01-2009 05:44 AM

I thought Walter Johnson hit the most batters in his career

kkkkandp 10-01-2009 06:17 AM

It's Someone Else...
 
...according to Baseball Almanac.


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