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Archive 04-18-2009 01:46 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Matt Hart</b><p>I just picked this up this morning and can't seem to find anything on him. Does anyone know if he was a League President or Comm?<br>Thanks for the help.<br>Matt<br><img src="http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/mghproductions/IMG_1988.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/mghproductions/IMG_1989.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/mghproductions/IMG_1990.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/mghproductions/IMG_1991.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

Archive 04-18-2009 04:36 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>There were A, AA and other lower leagues around the US, each with a commissioner.

Archive 04-18-2009 10:00 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Well he didn't sign that, I don't think. He wouldn't have written on there when he died...<br><br>I can't decipher the last name. What you need is a Spalding Guide from about 1902. Look at each of the minor leagues and see who the commissioner was. If the guy sat in New York, then I'd first look at the Eastern League, the International League, the New York State League, the Pony League....<br><br>FW

Archive 04-18-2009 10:03 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>The name does not come up in a search of the online Spalding guides.

Archive 04-19-2009 08:48 AM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>What name or names did you search?? I can't figure out if that last name starts with an S or an L or what... and I think there must be an I in there somewhere because of that dot, I think it's a tittle, but maybe it is just an errant dot.

Archive 04-19-2009 09:34 AM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>I assumed the name on the card was Barry Linden. That makes it a difficult Google search.

Archive 04-19-2009 03:17 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Matt Hart</b><p>Thanks for the help so far. I think the name is Barry Linden as well.<br>If anyone comes up with anything, please let me know<br>Thanks<br>Matt

Archive 04-19-2009 03:24 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>I once knew a guy named Barry Linden who somehow bore a striking resemblance to Cy <i>and</i> Irv Young, but I know that doesn't help much here.

Archive 04-21-2009 07:08 AM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>There is a baseball field/city park in NYC called Linden Park. I emailed NYC Parks and Rec to see if they have a history of how the park was named. When they respond, I'll let you know.<br>

Archive 04-21-2009 07:31 AM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>An answer from the www.nycgovparks.org site although it is not much help...<br><br>&quot;<b><u>Linden Playground</u> - Bounded by Linden Boulevard, Stanley Avenue, Vermont Street, and Wyona Avenue, this park takes its name from Linden Boulevard...Although it is unclear when the street assumed its present name, Linden Boulevard, the name itself comes from the American linden trees (Tilia americana) that line the boulevard.</b>&quot;

Archive 04-21-2009 08:07 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Matt Hart</b><p>Jim and Kevin,<br>Thanks for the help. It is appreciated.<br>Matt

Archive 04-21-2009 08:35 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>I also scanned my copy of <u>The Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball</u> and found no one by that name as either a league president or team manager.

Archive 04-21-2009 09:20 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>The Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball, by Johnson and Wolff, starts its coverage with the 1902 season. We're looking for 1890 to about 1902 or 1903... my copy only lists league presidents, not Commissioners. We still need a Spalding Guide or Record for 1901, 1902...

Archive 04-21-2009 09:27 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>My guess is that this person was not actually a Baseball &quot;Commissioner&quot;. I dont think there was such a thing as a Commissioner in any Baseball League until Landis. I think the person who wrote this identification did so years and years after the fact and was using a term that was in existance in regards to Baseball when the ID was written, but not actually a position which existed between 1890-1902. I could be wrong but I have never seen that term used before 1920 in Baseball, just League Presidents. He could also have been a big guy in a small league and that was just the Family's terms used to remember a relative from long ago. I have searched all my resources and can find nobody with that name so I am thinking the latter is the most likely scenario. More often than not people's opinions and facts about past family members are much exaggerated and usually wrong. <br><br>Rhys

Archive 04-21-2009 10:44 PM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Rhys has kinda hammered the nail through the plank!!! I think he's right on all that he says. All that is left is to find a reference to this guy in the 1890s.<br><br>FW

Archive 04-22-2009 04:28 AM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Frank:<br><br>I don't know what version of <u>The Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball</u> you are using, but my second edition (copyright 1997) starts with the 1883 season.<br><br>Kevin

Archive 04-22-2009 06:25 AM

Need help with a CDV. Baseball Commissioner?
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>1993. First edition, stated.<br><br>Seems Mr. Johnson and Mr. Wolff expanded their fine work in both chronological directions.<br><br><br>After Googling around a bit, I see there's a 3rd edition dated 2007. And it looks like they added info on the major leagues, attendance figures, and affiliation, expanding even beyond what the 2nd edition has. I may well need to get a 3rd edition...


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