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brianp-beme 10-26-2013 10:56 PM

New addition to E121-80 checklist...Meadows
 
Unless this is a front/back fabrication (perhaps a modified E135 Collins-McCarthy) from a card MD which got past the grading company, this Meadows is a new addition to the E121-80 checklist. Not just a team variation, but a completely new card unknown before now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-E121-AM...-/390685687180

I think the winner got an incredible bargain. It amazes me what is still undiscovered out there...this set has been hanging around 90 years, and no Meadows until now?

Brian

rhettyeakley 10-26-2013 11:28 PM

Looks like it... I'm one of the really bummed out under bidders. I should have gone higher but I don't think it would have mattered. I just checked the really tough Tom Rogers off the E121-80 want list and now I get to replace it with an even tougher card! Note that it has the Type 4 back as well, being that it has the earlier E135 style front along with being a subject that wasn't utilized in any of the later E121 type sets may indicate that the Type 4 E121 back may actually be the earliest one? Just when I think I have things figured out another question comes up!

old-baseball 10-27-2013 09:21 AM

This set certainly has more twists and turns than any other in the hobby. I had another collector ask me at one time why not focus on the Ruth and Cobb cards instead of chasing the scarcities. In my opinion the Cobb and Ruth cards (other than the Ruth that is one of the scarcities) can be had at almost any time. The scarce Rodgers, Meadows, Gaston and the many other tough Giants and Yankees are the true availability barriers to completing this bad boy! Cobb and Ruth are just a matter of money.

Rhett - Glad to hear you found a Rodgers card. I'm curious to know which reverse it has on it. Mine was destroyed to the point that you couldn't tell if it was a Type 1 or Type 3.

brianp-beme 10-27-2013 12:01 PM

A singular Meadows
 
What I think is coolest about this card is that a Meadows card is not found in any of the E121-80 versions (now it is!) nor in the E121-120 series set. Over the years the checklist for the E121-80 series have had numerous cards that have not been verified, but Meadows had never shown up on any list.

Imagine finding a previously undiscovered T206 card or even just a new proof that wasn't issued...that is how impressive this find is. Congrats to the new owner.

Brian

T206DK 10-27-2013 12:50 PM

I knew this card would clear the $1000 mark ! Unfortunately I was not the winner

Mark 10-28-2013 05:59 PM

Rare Specs
 
I didn't know whether it would reach 4 figures. I made what I thought was a strong bid, but also fell short. For the three hundredth time, Rhett, will you please stop whatever you are doing and write at least one book about the set of 80?

edhans 10-30-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark (Post 1200306)
For the three hundredth time, Rhett, will you please stop whatever you are doing and write at least one book about the set of 80?

+1

rhettyeakley 10-31-2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old-baseball (Post 1199805)

Rhett - Glad to hear you found a Rodgers card. I'm curious to know which reverse it has on it. Mine was destroyed to the point that you couldn't tell if it was a Type 1 or Type 3.

It is a Type 3 as I would have expected. It actually came in a pretty well hidden lot that had the "Type 3" mother lode if you will (I had only accumulated 13 total of that back and doubled my holdings with this one pickup! ... (the ones you can't see the fronts of are Judge, Kerr, and Holke (Portrait))

http://starsofthediamond.com/e121type3.jpg
http://starsofthediamond.com/e121type3b.jpg

Mark 10-31-2013 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 1201761)
It is a Type 3 as I would have expected. It actually came in a pretty well hidden lot that had the "Type 3" mother lode if you will (I had only accumulated 13 total of that back and doubled my holdings with this one pickup! ... (the ones you can't see the fronts of are Judge, Kerr, and Holke (Portrait))

http://starsofthediamond.com/e121type3.jpg
http://starsofthediamond.com/e121type3b.jpg

Very cool. Congratulations. I believe that I have only 1, a McGraw.

old-baseball 11-01-2013 06:57 AM

Card came in the mail yesterday. From what I can see through the slab it looks good - doesn't look re-backed. Creases / wrinkles match front and back and the Type 4 reverse IS reversed like all the others. I'm going to attempt crossover to SGC just to make sure (and so it matches the remainder of my set). There is a slight ghost on the reverse. Looks like it sat on top of another Meadows card but I can't be 100% sure.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=12749http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=12750

brianp-beme 11-04-2013 07:43 AM

Lookin' good!
 
A belated congratulations to Kevin...in my eyes this is a significant, out of the blue discovery of an absolutely new card from a somewhat popular and collected set. How often does that happen? Let us know how the SGC crossover turns out.

Brian

atx840 11-04-2013 08:04 AM

What a cool find, congrats Kevin.

old-baseball 04-28-2014 06:15 PM

Finally got this card crossed over to SGC (at the recent Strongsville, Ohio show). It dropped a half grade but it know matches the remainder of my (registry) set.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=14755http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=14756

joeadcock 04-28-2014 09:36 PM

Nice job Kevin


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