New allegations on BO
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297351
The title of the thread there is Brent Huigens & PWCC Used pwcc_auctions ID to Buy Cards for Gary Moser to Trim/Alter |
No doubt they are engaged in a menage a trois of sorts...imho that is.
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My latest email to Steve Sloan (Cc: Betsy):
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Remember the two things that went missing on the internet this week: pre-2015 back scans and obfuscated buyer ids...
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This doesn't even surprise me at this point. That's sad. :(
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Brent just needs to post another "calming" video for his investors on youtube. Problem solved. Where's Martin?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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https://img.comc.com/i/Non-Sports/19...&size=original
1994 SkyBox Bongo Comics Simpsons Series 2 - Characters #S 23 - Martin Prince Courtesy of COMC.com Ivy League edumacated. |
If this is true. RIP any card bought and sold through PWCC. All the cards they ever handled are pretty much deemed suspect from this moment on. Also a big blow for “High End” this backs what collectors have been saying for years. As to the idea that high grade card should not exist.
If true we all know this is not the first time someone has tried this and not the last. I also would that a lot of others scammers are out in the world doing this. |
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I wonder how many of the outed cards will be showing up for auction again this summer.
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And I'm sure any official investigators would find that tidbit most interesting...you might say the evidence you can't see may be the most damning... |
It's always the cover up that hurts the most. And who asked that those things disappear? eBay per VCP.
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I thought the IDs were back?
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I really don't know much of the details as to what is going on with PWCC, but I read some of the Blowout forum in the link and have an idea.
Does this mean I should suspect trimming or alterations on any PWCC cards I purchased? |
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I would only worry about the cards bought from PWCC if they're from 1886 to 2019. The rest are probably fine. |
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How does PSA determine the amount refund on an improperly graded card? Is it based on current market? Amount paid? Other?
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I wonder if Moser has ever asked for a refund on a rare downgraded card.:eek:
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And what a Bull market we are in.
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yes, and...
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At least John gave us the 1886-2019 window.
I see where Topps is now taking orders on the 2037 Baseball Card Set featuring Aaron Judge Jr. RCs. |
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If they need some legal advice, these guys have some:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ImNy...y_Ringer.0.jpg "We're not here to talk about the past." |
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https://forums.collectors.com/discus...ned-by-pwcc/p4 |
Must suck to be censored.
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Apparently, the CGC labeling of comic books includes calling 'conserved' comic as unaltered. This conservation includes pressing and removing of binding and coloring!
This is 100% what baseball card collectors don't want and are against. If a card has been conserved or restored fine, but the baseball card wants and insists the work be designated on the label-- and the card can't get a numerical grade. Now I know why PWCC, and Goudey, want the baseball card hobby to adopt that labeling system. The CGC labeling system doesn't label what the baseball card hobby consider alterations. |
Sent this to the FDLE tipline this morning
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I'm totally sickened by all this. In my opinion, there is a big difference between removing wax stains with panythose and trimming cards and adding color. Disgusting.
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All laid out on a silver platter. If you live in Texas, report the BGS/SSI stuff. If you live in Oregon, report the PWCC stuff, if you live in New York, report PWCC for taking away state sales tax from their Vault promotions.
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Well, Bobby claims to have proof. And phone records showing many long calls with eBay reps to resolve it. So if it was just Brent and not eBay, that's another company that will take it on the chin.
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IMHO nobody is taking advantage of the grading companies. They are either in on it or they hire blind graders. |
A scandal is occurring that is apparently massive in proportion affecting graded cards at all levels and we're worried about a few hours when some VCP data went dark? WTF.
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Can you even imagine where Brent has to be mentally in all this? Walls have to feel like they are closing in!
And yet the auction is cranking and bids are flying in as per usual. House of cards ready to crash. |
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It's ironic that if you scroll down to the bottom of this thread (at least right now) you see his ad. Surreal, in a way. |
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