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tedzan 12-02-2017 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1725820)
Hi Ted, nice tough cards. The total I come up with is 95. Possibly the difference in our totals is that you have shown the Tinker and Chase cards, which are only one point, and thus I have counted them twice (both as part of your 44 commons you mentioned, and since they were scanned for the post). Let us know what the official total is and I will get your Kraken # up there.

Brian

Brian

Your total of 95 is correct. I'm good with that #.

Thanks,


TED Z

T206 Reference
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yomass 12-03-2017 06:01 AM

Miller w/sunset
 
Can someone post a scan of this variation?

ullmandds 12-03-2017 06:51 AM

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here is an image from an old post on the topic here.

judsonhamlin 12-03-2017 08:47 AM

New math puts me at 132.

brianp-beme 12-03-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1726044)
here is an image from an old post on the topic here.

Thanks Pete for showing both Miller variations.

Brian

edhans 12-03-2017 03:27 PM

Re: E90-1, The Kraken (AKA The E-Monster) - post your collection progress
 
The latest revision brings me up to 190, if my math is correct. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to double check for me. I lack Jackson, Keeler (throwing), McLean, Miller (no sunset). O'Connor, Richie, Sheckard, Stahl, Stovall, both Wagners and both Youngs.

brianp-beme 12-03-2017 11:55 PM

I Suck
 
All I can say is I suck. Frank will probably bust a gut laughing after seeing all the changes I have made to the Kraken (because of my foolhardiness) whilst his T206 Monster has been clean and pristine from the get go.

Here is the bad news...I was just about to tally up edhans total and I saw that at some point I accidently removed Cy Young (Cleveland) from my point list. The other Brian (the guy who movitated me to create this thing) pointed out in post #43 that my point total only came up to 244 points, not 250. Why that happened is that when I updated the points I accidentally left off Cy Young (Cleveland) which I valued in my previous point system at 7. Dropping him off essentially left him at a point value of 1, thus creating that 6 point spread.

I subsquentially bumped up the value of Bemis, O'Connor and Seigle to 3 (from 1 point) to get things back to the 250 total value.

Here is our dilemma...what to do. I drop down to my knees and beg your forgiveness, and present two options:

1. Assign the re-instituted Cy Young (Cleveland) a 7 point value, and drop the Bemis, O'Connor and Seigle from 3 points to 1 point, giving us 250 points.

2. Assign the reinstituted Cy Young (Cleveland) a 5 point value, and drop two 3 pointers back to 1 point status, giving us 250 points.


Man I really screwed things up by leaving that Young off...please don't put me on your naughty list this Christmas season, and I will heed any suggestions you might fling my way, including those involving punishment involving a wet noodle.

Brian

AddieJoss 12-04-2017 06:05 PM

Make Young Cleveland 10 points and call 260 the set. Just a suggestion.
Cory

brianp-beme 12-04-2017 06:55 PM

Decided against this suggestion because of I just had to.

Brian

Steve D 12-04-2017 07:04 PM

Right now, as the listing in your original post stands, you have 122 cards, with a total of 255 points. That's one too many cards, and 5 too many points.

Steve

brianp-beme 12-04-2017 07:13 PM

Here is edhans point total, somebody (please!) check my work:

Lacking...

Jackson -20
Keeler (throwing) -3
McLean -3
Miller (no sunset) -1
O'Connor -1
Richie -1
Sheckard -1
Stahl -5
Stovall -1
Wagner (batting) -7
Wagner (throwing) -10
Young (Boston) - 4
Young (Cleveland) -7

250 points minus 64 points equals 186 points. I have updated your E-Monster #

Brian

Steve D 12-04-2017 07:23 PM

OK, if the only change was to elevate Cy Young (Cleveland) from 1 to 10 points, the total now stands at 259. This is due to there being 85 one-point cards before, instead of 86.

Here's my math (from the op, as revised at 8:20:

1 x 20 = 20
3 x 10 = 30
3 x 7 = 21
6 x 5 = 30
4 x 4 = 16
19 x 3 = 57
85 x 1 = 85
---------------
121 cards
259 points

Steve

brianp-beme 12-04-2017 07:48 PM

Dammit! Thanks Steve for making my head burst into a million particles of tiny shame. You are absolutely correct. I officially make you my double-checking right hand man, because the fellow typing this sentence obviously should not be in accounting.

Here is what I have to offer now, which is what I originally came up with but accidentally eliminated Cy Cleve from the list, causing this whirl of blunderbusses. Please note that besides Cy (Cleveland) now being 7 points, I have downgraded Bemis, O'Connor and Seigle from 3 points back to 1 point each.

20 Joe Jackson

10 Tris Speaker
10 Honus Wagner (throwing)

7 Hugh Duffy
7 Mike Mitchell
7 Honus Wagner (batting)
7 Cy Young (Cleveland)

5 Fred Clarke (Pittsburgh)
5 Ty Cobb
5 Willie Keeler (red background)
5 Jake Stahl
5 Bill Sweeney (Boston)
5 Ed Walsh

4 Peaches Graham
4 Christy Mathewson
4 Eddie Plank
4 Cy Young (Boston)

3 Bob Bescher
3 Patsy Dougherty
3 George Gibson (back)
3 Harry Howell (wind up)
3 Ed Karger
3 Willie Keeler (throwing)
3 Addie Joss (throwing)
3 Nap Lajoie
3 Tommy Leach (throwing)
3 Hans Lobert
3 Larry McLean
3 Dots Miller (sunset)
3 Orval Overall
3 Dave Shean
3 George Stone (left hand showing)
3 Jerry Upp

1 each for the rest of the 88 cards

A complete set of 121 would thus be 250 points

And here is a breakdown of each point level:


1 x 20 = 20
2 x 10 = 20
4 x 7 = 28
6 x 5 = 30
4 x 4 = 16
16 x 3 = 48
88 x 1 = 88
---------------
121 cards
250 points

Am I right? If so, let's put me out of my misery.

Brian

brianp-beme 12-04-2017 08:08 PM

And Brian, please forgive me from making you do extra spreadsheet work...and you will have to recalculate your Kraken # too!

Brian

Steve D 12-04-2017 08:25 PM

I apologize for causing so much grief Brian.

If it's any consolation, I agree with your calculations in your latest post. I think we can finally set this in concrete :)

Steve

brianp-beme 12-04-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 1726569)
I apologize for causing so much grief Brian.

If it's any consolation, I agree with your calculations in your latest post. I think we can finally set this in concrete :)

Steve

No apologies needed and thanks Steve...and while we are at it why don't we throw Jimmy Hoffa into the concrete too, but to not mess things up Jimmy will have a 0 point value.

Brian

familytoad 12-05-2017 07:58 PM

Kraken abacus
 
The abacus was easy to edit, I just changed a couple cells to reflect the final (?) scoring weights.

The hard part was having to reduce my number by 6 full points because I had all three of the players that were downgraded ::o:o

So put me down for 104.

Also please do email me for a version of the abacus if you’d like...

Leon 12-12-2017 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 1726832)
The abacus was easy to edit, I just changed a couple cells to reflect the final (?) scoring weights.

The hard part was having to reduce my number by 6 full points because I had all three of the players that were downgraded ::o:o

So put me down for 104.

Also please do email me for a version of the abacus if you’d like...

If someone wants to send me a spreadsheet of the abacus, there might be some way I can work with it (and host as large of an image as is needed) and post it in this thread, if that would help? Nice work so far!! I am still at 4.

frankbmd 12-12-2017 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1728909)
If someone wants to send me a spreadsheet of the abacus, there might be some way I can work with it (and host as large of an image as is needed) and post it in this thread, if that would help? Nice work so far!! I am still at 4.

Gee Leon,

After over 400,000 Monster Number views, now you tell me you can help.:eek::eek:

brianp-beme 12-12-2017 04:02 PM

Frank, the Kraken, within its watery environment, is a force to be reckoned with, and I believe Leon has succumbed to its power of liquid persuasion.

Perhaps the fine people of Japan should begin producing movies featuring these fiery combatants...T-Monster vs. the E-Monster.

Brian

Leon 12-14-2017 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1728910)
Gee Leon,

After over 400,000 Monster Number views, now you tell me you can help.:eek::eek:

It (The original Monster) is the most viewed thread ever and I have yet to post in it, as you know. IF I help with a picture then that might be considered posting in it.

mullinsm 12-14-2017 06:15 AM

My number
 
Is currently 35: 31 1-point cards and Young, Boston (+4).

Thanks for putting this together.

familytoad 12-17-2017 12:20 PM

Abacus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1728909)
If someone wants to send me a spreadsheet of the abacus, there might be some way I can work with it (and host as large of an image as is needed) and post it in this thread, if that would help? Nice work so far!! I am still at 4.

Leon, I'm sending you my Abacus sheet...
It is a MS Excel file, and it has formulae built in to do all the work...if you can host the excel file that would be ideal.
A picture would just give anyone interested an idea of what it looks like.

The file calculates both the Kraken number and the Set number...as if anyone would calculate their E90-1 set progress the "old" way....:D

Leon 12-17-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 1730299)
Leon, I'm sending you my Abacus sheet...
It is a MS Excel file, and it has formulae built in to do all the work...if you can host the excel file that would be ideal.
A picture would just give anyone interested an idea of what it looks like.

The file calculates both the Kraken number and the Set number...as if anyone would calculate their E90-1 set progress the "old" way....:D

Hey Brian
I just sent you an email and a quick follow up email explaining exactly what you just asked about (before I read this post). If I host it, it will only be a static picture. I am not sure how to import that kind of relational file into our system. Sorry about that.

familytoad 12-27-2017 03:51 PM

109
 
Another successful deal w/Cory nets me 5 more for my Kraken #

Please edit my number to 109:p

I found a couple duplicates that I'll post on BST to trade in case others need to bump their own numbers before the new year....

familytoad 12-29-2017 09:11 PM

Kraken up
 
Jess Tannehill added today, another low grade gem that provides a see through hole in the jersey.
I have both Tannehill players now after confusing who was who...

But the most important part is that i’ll be ending the 2017 calendar year with a Kraken number of 110.

I’ll get more next year!

brianp-beme 01-23-2018 12:28 PM

The Kraken monthly flow
 
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Being that the E90-1 collecting base is nowhere as large as that of the T206, I have decided that I would give this thread a bump every month or so if no activity as a reminder to all who do collect it or are interested. The Monster needs no provoking, while the Kraken quite often reacts when poked with a pointy stick

Brian (insert random scan of E90-1 card here. Never a favorite of mine...look at his face):

tonyo 01-23-2018 12:51 PM

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Hi Brian,

My e-monster # is still at 111.

edhans 01-23-2018 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1741285)

Brian (insert random scan of E90-1 card here. Never a favorite of mine...look at his face):

Love the Thomas with the plate scratch!

pkaufman 01-23-2018 04:03 PM

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Here's another plate scratch for you Ed.

brianp-beme 01-23-2018 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edhans (Post 1741340)
Love the Thomas with the plate scratch!

Mr. Oblivious here never noticed the plate scratch. Thanks Ed.

Brian

Leon 01-26-2018 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1741388)
Mr. Oblivious here never noticed the plate scratch. Thanks Ed.

Brian

Been talking about those for some time now :)...

brianp-beme 01-29-2018 09:23 PM

Now a proud owner of a trimmed up and punch holed Fred Clarke Pittsburgh. So my Kraken # has been pumped up 5 more notches to 164.

Brian

brianp-beme 01-29-2018 09:23 PM

I was duped into posting a duplicate post

Brian

frankbmd 02-01-2018 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1743257)
Now a proud owner of a trimmed up and punch holed Fred Clarke Pittsburgh. So my Kraken # has been pumped up 5 more notches to 164.

Brian

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1743258)
I was duped into posting a duplicate post

Brian

Not duped, just kraken up.:eek:

brianp-beme 02-01-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1743988)
Not duped, just kraken up.:eek:

I'm obviously Kraken under the pressure of maintaining this thread...how do you do so de-Monster-ably better Frank?

Brian

jasonc 02-04-2018 05:15 AM

Brian, I would like to join the Ranks:

1 for now, but possibly more in the future.

Picked up a Sam Crawford from a fellow board member.

brianp-beme 02-05-2018 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonc (Post 1744877)
Brian, I would like to join the Ranks:

1 for now, but possibly more in the future.

Picked up a Sam Crawford from a fellow board member.


Sam would give you a 'Wahoo' for starting off your E90-1 collection with his card.

Brian

Pat R 02-05-2018 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1742263)
Been talking about those for some time now :)...

I Think Ed and John (Webster) have been keeping track of these.

Here's an album of the ones that I know of so far

https://imageevent.com/patrickr/e901...-1&w=4&x=0&p=0

If anyone has a new one to add if you send me a scan I will put it in the
album. I will leave this album available for anyone who wants to keep track
and/or work on these.

brianp-beme 02-11-2018 03:29 AM

Thanks Patrick for posting the link to your E90-1 plate scratch album. It is nice to know that other sets than T206 suffered from these potential sheet arrangement markings. Someday I will check my other cards to see if I have any others...maybe eventually someone can put things together and figure out card placement/printing patterns.

Brian

Leon 02-13-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1747018)
Thanks Patrick for posting the link to your E90-1 plate scratch album. It is nice to know that other sets than T206 suffered from these potential sheet arrangement markings. Someday I will check my other cards to see if I have any others...maybe eventually someone can put things together and figure out card placement/printing patterns.

Brian

Well, there are some e90-1s that are miscut enough to probably help a little, if I remember correctly.

brianp-beme 02-13-2018 02:37 PM

Having technical difficulties at the moment to provide a link, but a thread started by me in 2013 entitled "Off-center E90-1 cards" shows a McInness and Thomas Philadelphia cards that were obviously sheet buddies.

Brian

Pat R 02-13-2018 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1747720)
Having technical difficulties at the moment to provide a link, but a thread started by me in 2013 entitled "Off-center E90-1 cards" shows a McInness and Thomas Philadelphia cards that were obviously sheet buddies.

Brian

Here's the link Brian. There were a few other miscut E90-1's that have
been posted If I find them I will post the links for them here too.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172495

ullmandds 02-13-2018 05:17 PM

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With this wags...I'm at 15 points! WooHoo!!!!

jasonc 02-16-2018 02:30 AM

Up to 7 E90-1 cards.

Crawford, Bush, Mullin, Summers, Stanage, Jennings, Donovan.

Thanks

familytoad 03-12-2018 11:22 PM

Big bump
 
Brian,
I jumped up 9 points with two cards this week.
Ty Cobb and Peaches Graham bring me to 119.

I might still have a few more points in me this spring...I might even take some pics for the rogues gallery since my set is primarily pretty low grade.
Holes in the cards are much more tolerable than holes in the wantlist :p

brianp-beme 03-12-2018 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 1757033)
Holes in the cards are much more tolerable than holes in the wantlist :p

Except when your wantlist has holes in it that prevent you from remembering what cards you need.

Congrats on Cobb and Graham...very point-worthy additions!

Brian

brianp-beme 04-06-2018 05:14 PM

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Just thought I would throw a little McIntyre into this thread gumbo. Also a little reminder for judsonhamlin, cozumeleno and fistner10...the point system was updated (see post #1, ignore all the frantic point jumbling posts afterwards) and still need updated point amounts from you all so I can remove (parenthetical) comments after your point total on the master Kraken list.

Brian

judsonhamlin 04-06-2018 05:58 PM

With all the math (and a couple of additions)- Matty and Leach throwing - I am now at 135. Now comes the hard (and expensive) part ☹️

Fistner10 04-06-2018 06:40 PM

Sorry for the delay. I’m at 52 now


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