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Paul S 09-08-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1811086)
Curious response. I'm guessing if it was your card, you'd be in a hurry.

If there were a "facetious" emoji available here, it would have been appended. I was referring to the large amount replies to the thread as weighted against the amount of first-person accounts. Maybe that was understood by most(?)

frankbmd 09-08-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1810250)
I suppose, but hard to believe any real collector would mock Red Heart collectors.

According to my research, 96.23% of dogs consumed only the dog food and not the card.

Therefore boarding kennel owners should be the “elite” Red Heart collectors.

Bow Wow WoW

Lorewalker 09-08-2018 06:28 PM

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How about a cool ad?

Jay Wolt 09-08-2018 06:45 PM

That's fantastic, i'd frame that bad boy

Stampsfan 09-08-2018 09:10 PM

Please stop all this "dog food" talk. It's making me hungry.

Peter_Spaeth 09-09-2018 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1811232)
According to my research, 96.23% of dogs consumed only the dog food and not the card.

Therefore boarding kennel owners should be the “elite” Red Heart collectors.

Bow Wow WoW

Bulldog bulldog

Peter_Spaeth 09-09-2018 09:04 PM

An interesting thing about Red Hearts is that while printed in 1954, they were available through mail-in offers through the early 1970s. Indeed I wonder if any of the cards were later printed.

lowpopper 01-20-2019 05:57 PM

This card is still missing. Please continue to keep an eye out. Thanks.

- Greg

lowpopper 03-13-2019 07:43 PM

This card has still not been recovered. If there is any info, please PM me or make it public. Thanks in advance.

BTW...BIG reward still offered

CTDean 03-15-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lowpopper (Post 1862400)
This card has still not been recovered. If there is any info, please PM me or make it public. Thanks in advance.

BTW...BIG reward still offered

Greg, I would add the 1951 Bowman Mantle cert # again for those that go straight to the last page of an older thread. Hope it turns up!

lowpopper 06-08-2019 01:58 PM

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1838/4...93f08f92_b.jpg


This card has still not been recovered since it was stolen. It could be cracked
out raw or in a different holder. It has to turn up somewhere eventually.

A LARGE cash reward is still available for any info that leads to its recovery.

nsaddict 06-08-2019 03:23 PM

Very sorry it's still not recovered. Most likely in a different holder. Keeping my fingers crossed and best of luck!

Peter_Spaeth 06-08-2019 03:46 PM

I assume you keep checking sales of comparably graded ones?

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-08-2019 04:50 PM

or 6's that are a little narrow top to bottom?

conor912 06-08-2019 05:14 PM

Look for it graded an 8 in Brent's next auction.

lowpopper 06-08-2019 06:06 PM

If the Internet Card Detectives can find 1/64 of and inch missing from the back
of a Tom Brady rookie, locating this card should be easy, no?

Can somebody post Mickey on Blowout? I don't have an account.

Peter_Spaeth 06-08-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lowpopper (Post 1886899)
If the Internet Card Detectives can find 1/64 of and inch missing from the back
of a Tom Brady rookie, locating this card should be easy, no?

Can somebody post Mickey on Blowout? I don't have an account.

I will email one of the guys for you.

BengoughingForAwhile 06-08-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lowpopper (Post 1886801)
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1838/4...93f08f92_b.jpg


This card has still not been recovered since it was stolen. It could be cracked
out raw or in a different holder. It has to turn up somewhere eventually.

A LARGE cash reward is still available for any info that leads to its recovery.

If you have a quality back scan that you can share it could definitely help in identifying your card if someone tries to sell it, or has sold it, provided they also have a quality back scan in their listing.

lowpopper 11-23-2020 05:34 PM

$5000 reward to anyone who provides info leading to the recovery of this card.

Thanks in advance.

MikeGarcia 11-24-2020 08:58 AM

wow
 
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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1801377)



...so absorbed in this story my coffee grew cold....wow ...just wow...

..

Buythatcard 11-24-2020 12:40 PM

I just reread this entire thread and noticed one thing. Nobody thought about asking the person selling ice cream whether they saw anything.

conor912 11-24-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buythatcard (Post 2038373)
I just reread this entire thread and noticed one thing. Nobody thought about asking the person selling ice cream whether they saw anything.

I heard it was Colonel Mustard in the convention hall with the ice cream cone.

T205 GB 11-25-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1811635)
An interesting thing about Red Hearts is that while printed in 1954, they were available through mail-in offers through the early 1970s. Indeed I wonder if any of the cards were later printed.

Hey Peter hope all is well. Some time back I was able to identify that there was at least two separate print runs. Type 1 and type 2. Mantle was used to identify the two. The light blues were type 1 and the dark blues are type two. There are also print marks and alignments that show the differences. I will see if I can get those posted for you to look at.

T205 GB 11-25-2020 09:19 AM

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Type one and Type two 54 Red Hearts

Seven 11-25-2020 09:30 AM

Read through this entire thread. Really sorry you've gone through this Greg. Don't have much to contribute in terms of helping search for the card, it's just a terrible reality that there's some extremely dishonest people, with no sense of morals, that steal.

lowpopper 11-27-2020 01:20 AM

All I can ask is that everyone keep an eye out. It will inevitably pop up somewhere eventually.

Peter_Spaeth 11-27-2020 10:49 AM

I hope so for your sake, but it seems to me the most likely scenario is that it would have been broken out of the holder making it untraceable whether it was sold raw, or resubbed.

luciobar1980 11-27-2020 02:08 PM

Yeah, but every card is basically as unique as a fingerprint. It could be found. Not out of the realm of possibility.

ALR-bishop 11-27-2020 02:11 PM

Well, some cards do have fingerprints

Peter_Spaeth 11-27-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 2039437)
Yeah, but every card is basically as unique as a fingerprint. It could be found. Not out of the realm of possibility.

Not even a back scan.

Tyruscobb 11-28-2020 09:14 AM

I can’t imagine all the emotions that you have experienced since the theft occurred. I wish you luck. Finding the card is obviously the first hurdle, but potentially not the tallest.

The reason is the card has probably changed owners several times since the theft. I doubt the original thief is still holding the card. Moreover, the card is probably now encased in a SGC or BVG holder which will (1) make it more difficult to find the card and (2) make it difficult to prove the current owner is not a bona fide/good faith purchaser.

The current possessor is potentially innocent and a bona fide/good faith owner. If so, some states have laws that protect these purchasers/owners. This is especially true if the person that sold him/her the card is long gone. However, that person may also have been an innocent bona fide/ good faith purchaser. The theory is why should the tenth owner down the chain bear the loss if he/she had no idea the card was originally stolen and purchased it in good faith.

The current owner now potentially has a good legal title to the card. So, even if you can somehow locate the card, you then have to fight with the current owner. No one is going to voluntarily hand over a five figure card without a legal battle.

bnorth 11-28-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lowpopper (Post 2039286)
All I can ask is that everyone keep an eye out. It will inevitably pop up somewhere eventually.

Did anything ever pan out from all the great info you got from Mathew, I mean NotVader?

Huck 11-28-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 1811296)
How about a cool ad?

Well over a decade ago, I found and purchased that ad on ebay. I plan to have the ad framed along with the 33 cards. I almost there, three cards to go!

rdwyer 11-28-2020 04:02 PM

When I saw this post months later, I thought it had been found. What a bummer to find it still hasn't been found. I hope whoever has it, gets paid back with karma.

Peter_Spaeth 11-28-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2039665)
I can’t imagine all the emotions that you have experienced since the theft occurred. I wish you luck. Finding the card is obviously the first hurdle, but potentially not the tallest.

The reason is the card has probably changed owners several times since the theft. I doubt the original thief is still holding the card. Moreover, the card is probably now encased in a SGC or BVG holder which will (1) make it more difficult to find the card and (2) make it difficult to prove the current owner is not a bona fide/good faith purchaser.

The current possessor is potentially innocent and a bona fide/good faith owner. If so, some states have laws that protect these purchasers/owners. This is especially true if the person that sold him/her the card is long gone. However, that person may also have been an innocent bona fide/ good faith purchaser. The theory is why should the tenth owner down the chain bear the loss if he/she had no idea the card was originally stolen and purchased it in good faith.

The current owner now potentially has a good legal title to the card. So, even if you can somehow locate the card, you then have to fight with the current owner. No one is going to voluntarily hand over a five figure card without a legal battle.

That's news to me, I thought the old rule of nemo dat quod non habet (noone can give what he does not have, meaning a thief cannot convey good title) was still pretty universally followed in the US.


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