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Dewey 05-24-2016 01:56 PM

Movie Stills
 
Is there any reason for movie stills to be three-hole punched? Any good reason? I imagine this would impact value, obviously.

Got any baseball (or general) movie stills you want to show off? Lordstan just posted some Gehrig beauties in the May pickup thread!

Exhibitman 05-25-2016 11:15 AM

No legitimate issuer reason; someone wanted to store them in a notebook.

Do you mean a lobby card or a still? Some lobby cards:

Gene Tunney in The Fighting Marine

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...bby%20card.jpg

Jim Jeffries in They Never Come Back

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Jeffries.jpg

Joe Louis in Joe Palooka, Champ

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...oe%20Louis.jpg

Here is a still from the Benny Leonard film Flying Fists

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0Fists%201.jpg

and another one from the Humphrey Bogart/Joe Walcott/Max Baer film The Harder They Fall

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Fall%206.jpg

JoeyFarino 05-25-2016 02:27 PM

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...psjt3b0qwl.jpg

pencil1974 05-25-2016 04:46 PM

Ruth
 
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I think this counts as a movie still, don't know. From Headin Home 1920

Forever Young 05-25-2016 05:33 PM

1927 babe comes home
 
Here is a TYPE 1 from "The Babe Comes Home" that I recently added to my collection. The shot is incredible to me in that it is actually Ruth flying through the air with the greatest of ease. No stunt double here..it's a bird, it's a plane..it's SUPER BABE. I can see a cape on him in this one. :)
It was also used for is frojoy card.

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps51iq6quf.png

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...suisxw1oi.jpeg

prewarsports 05-25-2016 05:44 PM

Sounds like you have might a studio file copy. They would keep binders full of images for reference during the filming of movies and then they just got trashed or stored away but many have hit the market. They are "damaged" but some people get into them.

Forever Young 05-25-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1543083)
Sounds like you have might a studio file copy. They would keep binders full of images for reference during the filming of movies and then they just got trashed or stored away but many have hit the market. They are "damaged" but some people get into them.

It could be something like that or just someone after the fact storing them. Three ring binders were very popular storage tools for anyone. I have seen many punched photos.
I have some from "home run derby" from the studio which were taken during the filming and stored away. I have also owned photos where I purchased a collection thst was kept with baseball cards and made holes in photo.

If you don't have provenance in any form from a studio, it is just a photo with 3 hole punches.

Either way, if it doesn't detract from the main image itself(on the border) if will not affect value as much as say a hole in a baseball card. Nor will it add value.

That said, here is another still from "Safe at home". I love this one.

Dewey 05-25-2016 06:38 PM

Thanks for the information. In asking the question I learned I don't even know what differentiaties a still from a file copy from a lobby card. So much to learn. :) Babe soaring through the air is a sight to behold!

Lordstan 05-25-2016 06:58 PM

Here are a few from the 1938 movie Rawhide. Lou Gehrig starred with Smith Ballew. Most are movie stills, but some are promo shots and one is applying makeup for the movie.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hindcamera.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...deCarKnapp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...idecookout.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...whidefight.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...whideHorse.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hidemakeup.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...deonground.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...deportrait.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...traitsmile.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...whidepromo.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...hidestairs.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ioportrait.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...withBallew.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...yingmakeup.jpg

Lordstan 05-25-2016 07:07 PM

Now for some Pride of the Yankees photos. Same deal as before, many movie stills mixed with some promo shots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ooperasLou.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ooperatbat.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...perBrennan.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...SheetMusic.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...erbylocker.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lockerroom.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ithWright1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ithWright2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...erRuthMack.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Dickeyauto.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...perwright1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...perWright2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ith%20Babe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...perWright3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...%20Eleanor.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...GDayatpark.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...omwithBabe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Y%20waiter.jpg

Forever Young 05-25-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey (Post 1543106)
Thanks for the information. In asking the question I learned I don't even know what differentiaties a still from a file copy from a lobby card. So much to learn. :) Babe soaring through the air is a sight to behold!

I wish I was technical enough or had the patience to photoshop a cape on him. HA! Do you have any to share with us?

Dewey 05-25-2016 09:13 PM

Babe Ruth plays an ice delivery boy? Classic. These are great.

Wow Mark, those are phenomenal. Love Lou's smile in the first one.

I'm working on it, Ben. I found myself looking for shots of the Baseball Furies from The Warriors. Prewar (Desert Storm). Haha.

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Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1543121)
I wish I was technical enough or had the patience to photoshop a cape on him. HA! Do you have any to share with us?


Exhibitman 05-26-2016 10:12 AM

Keeping the Gehrig theme:

Lou signs to do Rawhide:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...25_713_lg.jpeg

Two stills from the production:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...52_711_lg.jpeg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...2_711b_lg.jpeg

steve B 05-26-2016 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey (Post 1543106)
Thanks for the information. In asking the question I learned I don't even know what differentiaties a still from a file copy from a lobby card. So much to learn. :) Babe soaring through the air is a sight to behold!

The very basics since I'm far from an expert.

Lobby card - usually printed and on cardstock, a good deal larger than 8x10 (Too lazy to measure mine or look it up, plus it may have varied over the years or by studio etc) They were ads that were meant to be shown in the lobby of the theatre. Just like the posters of upcoming movies just smaller.

Publicity still. - Usually 8x10 and black and white until.....1990s? Not sure, but black and white way past when you'd maybe expect color. Sent out in sets in press packs that included some stills, a description, usually a list of stars, and also usually clip art advertisements. The ones shown that have the title and a bunch of information at the bottom as part of the photo are newer, ones with less info are usually older. With exceptions, I have had some TV ones from the 80's that are very plain but have an attached news release on the back. All stuff intended to be passed along to the press either directly or by the theater owner so the papers could run ads or maybe illustrate an article.

File stills - Stuff taken during production, either to make the promotional stills from, or perhaps to help with continuity, I think the Marilyn Monroe one shown is that sort. So they'd have a record of stuff like which side of a table a vase was on during yesterdays filming. Sort of embarrassing if you've put together multiple clips to make a scene and stuff is moving around on its own.
These also probably don't have readily understandable info written on them, if there's any at all.

There are also fan stills, simply photos taken from a film for sale to fans or some other purpose. (And maybe licensed maybe not. Image quality will usually be really good on licensed stuff, and the whole range on unlicensed.)

Personally I'd find the ones used in production more interesting, but that's just me.

Steve B

Dewey 05-26-2016 07:48 PM

Thanks, Steve. That's very helpful. And it answers a question I kept having about why Field of Dreams stills I came across were black and white.

mr2686 05-27-2016 06:55 PM

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Here's my only still...from Pride of the Yankees.

Exhibitman 05-28-2016 09:24 AM

Don't forget the re-releases. If a film becomes a cult favorite it was often re-released with new publicity materials made. Here is a lobby card from Monkey Business, a 1931 film, but it is actually from the re-release in 1949. The notation at the bottom says so:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20groucho.jpg

mr2686 05-28-2016 01:07 PM

I think the re-release material "usually" has the newer date on them, although that may not always be true. I did notice on the re-release of Pride of the Yankees (and what looks like on Monkey Business) when there are numbers like 142/300 etc that the re-release numbers are larger and darker than the original release counterparts. Don't know if that's the norm or not.

71buc 05-28-2016 01:37 PM

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Here is John McGraw and Hugh Jennings in 1917 the movie was titled The Pinch Hitter

thecatspajamas 06-02-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey (Post 1542629)
Is there any reason for movie stills to be three-hole punched? Any good reason? I imagine this would impact value, obviously.

Try searching for "key book photo" or "keybook photo" and see if that is what you are referring to. This would be much different value-wise than a regular photo someone punched holes in for storing in their photo album or Trapper Keeper. (And by different, I mean that keybook photos are often more desirable whereas Joe-Schmoe-punched ones are less)

Exhibitman 06-03-2016 05:35 PM

That's true Mike. The code is a telltale sign of a re-release.

Dewey 06-03-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas (Post 1546071)
Try searching for "key book photo" or "keybook photo" and see if that is what you are referring to. This would be much different value-wise than a regular photo someone punched holes in for storing in their photo album or Trapper Keeper. (And by different, I mean that keybook photos are often more desirable whereas Joe-Schmoe-punched ones are less)

Not sure what this is, as far as a keybook photo or not, but I liked it so I got it. Thanks for the info!

http://s33.postimg.org/iiq0cjmzz/s_l1600_5.jpg

Dewey 07-09-2016 06:51 PM

Oh yeah. :D
https://s31.postimg.org/m818bvmvv/Wa...all_Furies.jpg

JustinD 07-12-2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey (Post 1560084)

That was my wife and my costumes last Halloween, lol.

jb217676 07-12-2016 08:31 PM

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Sweet! My slo-pitch team name is the "Baseball Furies" and these are our shirts!

Dewey 07-12-2016 11:16 PM

Costumes? Slo pitch team? You guys are epic! My wife hates the movie. To which I always respond, "Why can't you diiiiiig iiiiiiiit?"

JustinD 07-14-2016 04:31 PM

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Here is the back of my costume, my wife had a matching one.

(that's totally a wig too, I couldn't grow hair like that if my life depended on it. lol.)


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