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calvindog 01-10-2010 08:15 AM

Ebay seller to avoid: candwvintageautographs
 
This might be the most obvious shill bidder ever. I won thse two auctions below, a Cobb Postaco stamp and a Cobb German Transfer:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260530226974

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250555637841

After winning the auctions I checked out the bidding history and noticed an underbidder who had a feedback rating of 118 but with only 9 auctions bid on in the past 30 days -- but all, 100%, with this seller. And the cards this underbidder bid on were pretty diverse: graded prewar baseball cards, autographed postwar baseball cards and even boxing autographs....but no graded prewar baseball cards, autographed postwar baseball or boxing autographs with any other seller. Not surprisingly, this underbidder never won any of the 9 auctions he bid on the seller's, he only served to drive the final price up.

So I emailed the seller after receiving the cards and he/she responded in part as follows:

"We were very surprised to receive this email as we have succesfully (sic) completed transactions in the past.
If you look into the History of this piece on Vintage Card prices you can see we actually took a decent loss on the card from where we bought it at Auction."

Basically telling me that since they lost money on the card I shouldn't be upset that they shill bid it up $131. No denial of shill bidding, of course. They also promised to work with ebay to get the negative feedback removed; ebay will no doubt comply despite the most brazen shill bidding on ebay I've just about ever seen.

andybecker 01-10-2010 08:22 AM

sorry-wrong thread

Rob D. 01-10-2010 01:14 PM

Were the words conspiracy theorist ever used?

PolarBear 01-10-2010 02:35 PM

Email the shiller and ask him a question about a card the seller has. If he answers, then he's busted.

frankb22 01-10-2010 04:33 PM

That's one of the reasons masking all bidders except the
winner is a bad idea. No way to tell who the underbidder is
just from those auctions.

PolarBear 01-10-2010 05:32 PM

I forgot about the ID masking.

I keep remembering the wild ebay days when you could contact anyone and leave feedback for anyone, regardless if you had a transaction with them.

BCauley 01-10-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PolarBear (Post 773957)
I forgot about the ID masking.

I keep remembering the wild ebay days when you could contact anyone and leave feedback for anyone, regardless if you had a transaction with them.

I miss those days. Ebay was such a better place a decade + ago.

botn 01-11-2010 06:09 AM

Jeff,

Your underbidder is this chap http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ows=200&sort=3.

In case the name does not ring a bell, this thread http://net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=83587 will help jog your memory.

Greg

calvindog 01-11-2010 07:33 AM

Greg, your skills are impressive. And what a surprise -- the underbidder on the cards I won is crooked. Gee, never would have guessed that. I'll be putting together a nice package of information for a special someone I know.

vintagechris 01-11-2010 05:42 PM

I actually won an autographed lot from this seller several months ago. They had put all kinds of stuff in one lot. PSA/DNA baseballs, photos, hall of fame plaques and maybe some other stuff. I forget now. Anyhow, I got a GREAT deal. I paid and after a couple of weeks and not getting anything, emailed the seller. I was told they were out of town and would check with the person that does their shipping when they get back in 10 days. They did however give me the option of a refund right then. Imagine that.

Long story short, after over a month of getting the complete run around filing a complaint with Paypal and just in general a big headache, I got my stuff. I seriously though about leaving negative feedback but since I got what I ordered, I didn't and just decided to never order from them again.

Sounds like one to stay away from.


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