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whiteymet 04-15-2018 06:25 PM

Help IDing Gehrig Bust
 
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Hi All:

Anyone ever seen or have info on the below Gehrig bust?

It is about 18" high and 18" wide.

I see no markings

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Fred

Sorry can't figure out how to make the photos straight. It shows straight on my computer!

pologrounds 04-20-2018 01:19 PM

how much?
 
how much?

perezfan 04-20-2018 04:27 PM

Fred-

It is from the 1940s. There was a dated trophy awarded to Joe Sewell with this same huge Gehrig Bust. I have the bust portion without the trophy. The bust is rare, and is a stand-alone piece. So someone simply mounted it to a base with a dated Placard, to create the trophy that was originally presented to Sewell.

Yours is the fourth Iíve seen in the past 30 years. There is mine, yours, the Sewell Trophy version, and another that sold via Hunt Auctions a few years back.

It should be noted that yours is painted, and this is not original to the piece. In my opinion, it is far more attractive with the original simple bronze finish. I would post a pic of mine, but am sure that the image would appear sideways. Iíve pretty much stopped posting pics for that reason.

You can email me if you want to see what the bust looks like in its original state. If you prefer the original, I bet itís possible to strip off the new/existing paint. Mike Hoevet posted a nice thread about this process prior to his passing. His example involved one of those 1800s Lamp Bases. Perhaps you can use the search function to see what product and procedure he utilized. I believe many people found it to be helpful.

perezfan 04-20-2018 04:33 PM

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Found an earlier image of mine. Perhaps it will post straight. If not, I wonít waste time trying to fix it. Anyway, here it is...

JollyElm 04-20-2018 06:33 PM

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Okay, not to take the thread too far off-track, but I noticed something with regard to the 'problem' images people are talking about. They seem to appear in boxes with the phrase "Attached Images" showing in the top left. That shouldn't be the case.

For instance, I uploaded this random Pete Rose scan. When posting (THIS IS IMPORTANT), I clicked on the paper clip icon and selected the Rose, putting it exactly where I wanted it in this post. As you can see, it's in the body of the message and not in a separate box at the bottom. For the heckuva it, I also uploaded a random 1969 Perry pic and did nothing with it (didn't select it via the paperclip icon). That pic now appears in the dreaded "Attached Images" box at bottom (see below).

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If I had to guess, here is a solution. When you're uploading an image, take an active role and BE SURE TO actually put it in the body of your post via the paper clip icon. Even if you're simply posting a picture in a thread, make sure you actually insert it into your post. See this pic:

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Don't simply upload a pic and do nothing with it. By default, it seems, it will simply be added to the bottom of your post in said "Attached Images" box, and then it won't be oriented correctly, etc. It's kinda like keeping a bunch of junk in your car trunk.

Lastly, if you're not using pics you have uploaded, hit "Remove" in the "Manage Attachments" box to ensure they don't unnecessarily appear at bottom. (That is what I would've normally done with the superfluous Perry pic.)

Hope this helps.

chalupacollects 04-20-2018 08:17 PM

Also I have found that when you scan the pictures into your computer you sometimes have to edit it to show the right orientation and then resave it and they load just fine...

chalupacollects 04-20-2018 08:17 PM

and back to the bust - cool in the bronze!

whiteymet 04-23-2018 01:20 PM

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Hi Mark:

Thanks for the info and posting the photo of your bronze bust.
I am not sure mine has been repainted over the bronze if that is what you meant.

Please see the photo of the bottom of my bust. I would assume that if it had been painted over the bronze the bottom would not have been painted,
and the bottom looks original to me.

Does the bottom of your bust look like mine?

Hope to see you in Cleveland this summer.

Best,

Fred



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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1769118)
Fred-

It is from the 1940s. There was a dated trophy awarded to Joe Sewell with this same huge Gehrig Bust. I have the bust portion without the trophy. The bust is rare, and is a stand-alone piece. So someone simply mounted it to a base with a dated Placard, to create the trophy that was originally presented to Sewell.

Yours is the fourth Iíve seen in the past 30 years. There is mine, yours, the Sewell Trophy version, and another that sold via Hunt Auctions a few years back.

It should be noted that yours is painted, and this is not original to the piece. In my opinion, it is far more attractive with the original simple bronze finish. I would post a pic of mine, but am sure that the image would appear sideways. Iíve pretty much stopped posting pics for that reason.

You can email me if you want to see what the bust looks like in its original state. If you prefer the original, I bet itís possible to strip off the new/existing paint. Mike Hoevet posted a nice thread about this process prior to his passing. His example involved one of those 1800s Lamp Bases. Perhaps you can use the search function to see what product and procedure he utilized. I believe many people found it to be helpful.


perezfan 04-24-2018 01:46 AM

That definitely sheds a new light on it, Fred. It looks like that is original ceramic indeed. So I would speculate the answer is one of two things....

Perhaps the same mold was used for both a ceramic and a bronze version of this Bust. Maybe they were sold both ways, and the customer could simply choose his preference.

It's also possible that a later cast was made from the original Bronze, and that a ceramic version was subsequently created from that cast. A pretty common practice, recreating figural pieces.

I think the first scenario is the far more likely of the two. But either way, I no longer feel that your version is a repainted bronze. Perhaps someone else here has more info.


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