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shammus 12-23-2009 12:32 PM

t205s with green borders
 
Saw one of these listed in BST....had never seen one before or heard of this sort of variation existing. Does anyone know more about them? Are they similar to t210s with orange borders in that a few sheets missed a color pass during the original print run and some cards came out with different colored borders? Are these easily found or are they pretty tough to come by?

Thanks guys,
Brian

barrysloate 12-23-2009 12:52 PM

Hi Brian- hope you are well. I've had a bunch of the green bordered T205 over the years. My guess is they are missing the gold layer. You don't see them too often but they are out there.

asoriano 12-23-2009 01:05 PM

I was always under the impression that the green borders were caused by some type of exposure to a moist environment.

For what it's worth, a majority of the green borders I've seen are in poor condition.


A missing layer that was not applied seems plausible as well.


Happy Holidays!

drc 12-23-2009 01:25 PM

Don't know the specific card you are talking about, but copper, such as used on the T205s, can tarnish green. Just look at the Statue of Liberty.

Rob D. 12-23-2009 01:30 PM

Whatever you do, if you have T205s whose borders have turned green, don't send them to Kruger Industrial Smoothing. They'll screw them up, just like they did the Statue of Liberty.

(Just for you, Joe.)

Wite3 12-23-2009 01:39 PM

They are the result of exposure to moisture and have tarnished. The gold borders are indeed a metal that was applied last to the card. Underneath the gold borders is usually yellow, pink, or white print. I have held two different cards without the gold borders and it is very obvious. I have owned and still own many green bordered cards and they are almost always in poor condition. Hope this helps.

Joshua

brianp-beme 12-23-2009 03:22 PM

Green with envy, you people must be
 
Good golly I own a bunch of green borders...I guess this would be as good an indicator as any that my collection could be considered archival (the arch-rival of Bruces everywhere).

Brian

drc 12-23-2009 03:51 PM

The T205 borders would have originally been as bright as a brand new penny. Even the darker, brownish borders have tarnished with age.

Exhibitman 12-23-2009 04:03 PM

Here is a T205 where the gold ran out during printing. It is not green underneath:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...sprint%202.jpg

barrysloate 12-23-2009 04:19 PM

So then the green borders are merely gold borders that have become discolored. But the green also have a different texture than the gold, so some of the upper layer has disappeared.

drc 12-23-2009 04:29 PM

This is merely speculation, but the T205s had a big and lengthy print run. It's plausible they used different metal alloys at different points, and the type of tarnish might relate to the particular alloy.

sb1 12-23-2009 04:35 PM

I have one without the gold
 
McGraw has never had gold applied and it's yellow underneath

quinnsryche 12-24-2009 11:45 AM

T205 Green Borders
 
Could we get some board members to post some scans of their most obvious green borders and even some missing the gold altogether? I am sure we would all appreciate some visual referrences. Thanks!

tbob 12-24-2009 01:49 PM

They are certainly harder to find but nowhere near "scarce" or "rare." I had several in vg/ex shape years ago but got rid of them to obtain ones with nice gold borders.


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