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I'll put a gold sticker on any card you send to me at only $4 per review. I've got a pretty good eye (the right one, left one is a little wonky). Every card will get the gold star, I don't discriminate. For $6, I'll put on two. Here's an example
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I don't know about anyone else but once a card is in a slab, I have a real difficult time analyzing the condition of the card. I know a lot can be missed while it sits in the slab. So, I wonder how others can judge whether the card deserves any extra brownie points just by viewing a slabbed card.
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The owner of purplesticker/slabsticker has this Johnny Bench in a 1 grade for sale with a purple sticker. Looks like a 1 to me :eek:
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Ah, that's reasonable. Card has very high eye appeal for a 1, presuming the back is clean. Most Bench RCs are *edit: more* off-center.
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I was his first customer and got 2 for 2...
all kidding aside, there's no doubt that all 5's are not equal. Nor 6's. Nor 7's, etc. The question is "are people willing to pay for a third party to make that assessment?" we've already paid good money to have it graded, and now we pay again. not sure what the answer is. only time and the market will tell. can't blame someone for giving it a go, however. I wish you luck in your new endeavor. who knows, maybe it will pan out. |
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These folks are doing pre-war too so the thread was moved to the main page for discussion (as requested in the other thread)
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Would be a nice touch to add exact centering numbers to such a service; 50/50 or 70/30 T/B would be more beneficial than another opinion of an already graded card, at least to me.
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Just makes me laugh that most of the arguments against the service are the self-same arguments against tpg's lo those many years ago.
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I didn't say I disagree with the comments that made me laugh, but then again I was one of the scoffers the first time around so don't look to me for intelligence!
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I don't see the similarity at all. When TPG came in it was the wild west out there. Not that TPG was a perfect solution but it has helped enormously and stabilized an industry that would have been a nightmare without it especially as it has moved online. What good is the purple label going to accomplish that is remotely analogous?
The arguments against TPG were mostly made by people who were benefiting from the corrupt system of grading their own cards. Again, not analogous to the arguments against this (IMO) worthless layer of opinion. Sure, at some 50,000 foot level the arguments were similar -- we don't need this -- I'll grant you that. |
The main concern I would have is:
1) what level of insurance does this company have? 2) why pay $5 a card when the cost to review cards is similar from PSA, and they can actually award you a higher grade? |
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I saw a thread on the post-war board which said: Show me your under-graded cards.
Here is the link to that thread which is currently running: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250623 In addition, how often do we as a group note: "That card has great eye appeal for a 1" or "Looks like a higher grade to me". I can not make any assumptions about the creator of this site but to me, it sounds hypocritical to complain about something like this if we ourselves constantly brag about such cards. He is looking for an underserved part of the market and I understand the point. Now, we may not agree on the specific cards but if we're going to disagree -- it needs to be on the concept first. Rich |
That's the whole point Rich. We can judge these things for ourselves, we don't need a sticker.
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If only this service was available for rating women.
A purple sticker would have saved me around $1M and 2 divorces. |
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The purple sticker gentleman is just trying to fix a small percentage of their mistakes. Now he just needs to get it on a ton of slabs so everyone will depend on the Purple Sticker like they do PSA slabs for their collection to have any value.:D:D:D |
This is the funniest thing! Grading graded cards.
Let me get this straight: I pay a monopolistic fee to a highly trained teen-ager from PSA to grade my card, and then, upon receiving graded card some 3 years later (or however long it takes these days) send the card out to be re-graded by a fourth party (who may or may not be a highly trained teenager) and this other expert may (or may not) put a purple sticker on my already graded card that says that he says the grade I already paid for is not really correct. Sounds like a good idea to me. There's really one gigantic problem with the idea of re-grading a graded card. How exactly can you re-grade a card that's encased in hard plastic? And if you're not really re-grading it, can't anyone look at a psa 2 and say, "Hey, that looks nicer than a 2." . |
Just make sure you follow that old adage “buy the flip, not the purple sticker” and you’ll be fine.
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I don't know if this question has been covered, but does Purple Label offer any guarantee for their service? I didn't see anything about that on their website.
I don't know how Purple Label can not offer a guarantee when their sticker clearly says the card is "verified". So if a PSA graded card is later found to be trimmed, altered, counterfeit, etc, who is responsible? PSA or Purple Label (since they were the last to verify it)? |
IIRC Jim Crandell was going to send all his PSA cards to Kevin to have them inspected for a fee. I also remember Jim was debating crossing all his cards to
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If he does a good job, people will use the service. If not, the service will go away. But it is something not currently done in the marketplace and as such does make sense as a new opportunity for a business. I remember having breakfast with Roger Neufelt before a Philly show maybe 12-15 years ago and this is when PSA had not yet created the .5. His point at the time was a PSA 8 could be a 7.51 to an 8.50. Using that logic, an card which we would now grade 8.5 was graded an 8 and thus qualifies for that purple sticker. |
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This is Miss Mukherjee. If you show her your cards and she feels they're undergraded, she will happily place a purple star sticker on them for you...and if you're polite, she'll also give you a lollipop.
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I also like this line from a more recent song from another group: "He took the mirrors off his Cadillac...because he don't like looking like he looks back." Brian (this Poor/Fair post deserves a purple star!) |
A good reminder
This thread is a good reminder why I rarely participate on Net54
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If you can't see the point of anything anyone is saying, then I can't help you.
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1. You attack the credibility of Greg (whom I have never met or communicated with) in post #20 over a screw-down holder. I can tell you that I have personally taken thousands of vintage cards out of screw-down holders and never had a card get damaged or rejected by a TPG. Is it possible? I'm sure it is, but you're really going to attack the credibility of someone for estimating the grade of a card in a screw-down holder? 2. You attack Greg for labeling his own product. Concerning? yes, but where is your outrage over Baseball Card Exchange for authenticating their own product? They are the largest dealer of unopened material in our hobby and doing the exact same thing. 3. You really seem unable to differentiate the concept of technical grade and eye appeal. Nobody is claiming that this company is stickering cards that a TPG undergraded. The TPG got it right with the technical grade. However, there are a lot of cards that have an eye appeal that is superior to the assigned technical grade. This is the service that Greg is trying to provide. Will I ever use this service? Absolutely not, as I have sufficient experience to detect these cards on my own. But I've dealt with a lot of people in this hobby, and I can tell you that a good percentage of this hobby does not have this skill set. Let this guy Greg pursue his idea - if it is a needed service in our hobby, it will do okay, if not, it will fail. I just don't get why people feel the need to attack him and humiliate him. This is why this thread has served as a good reminder why I rarely participate on Net54. |
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How about this good buddy! I would take this venture (which is an obvious ripoff of the PWCC High End Designation - but that is another debate) seriously, if #1) he was an IMPARTIAL 3rd party....IE - DO NOT APPLY THE STICKER TO YOUR OWN INVENTORY, and #2) If you are going to apply it to your own inventory (conflict of interest nonwithstanding) be damned sure that the cards you are applying it to, are indeed WORTHY of being HIGH END for the grade. I have yet to see ONE sticker applied correctly. Even Steve Borock had to sell his personal comic book collection before he joined CGC. Do you understand why he did that??? CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I am sorry that you have nothing to add to the board. I am sorry that myself and other like minded individuals on here have let you down. PS - For #1 I call BS......A card in a screw down holder will 9 times out of 10 get "altered stock". Facts. Not fiction. You have lost credibility with me with your false statement. If you took the time to read what I wrote, I said, be TRUTHFUL with the guy. A Mantle that has been in a screwdown holder for over three decades WILL PROBABLY GET ALTERED STOCK. IT DAMAGES THE CARD!!!!! You can say that is doesn't and you have sneaked 1,000 out of 1,000 by PSA. I know better. To tell the guy otherwise helps the "feel good" story, but doesn't present him with the truth. |
Geez didn't realize I would start such a discussion.... being very new to the card thing I'd say this sticker thing now that I understand is a decent idea; the coin industry uses it and it seems to matter from what I researched this past week. I also found a company called PWCC who has a HIGH END sticker called pwcc-he ! Not sure if u buy it for auction? Or if u ask them to adhere it ? As a newb I can't help but ask WHY DO I NEED TO AUCTION MY CARD to get a 'he' sticker?
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This is very stupid. *End rant*
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I thought Bob was only talking about cards that had been in screwdowns for "several decades." Back in the 80s not sure if people were protecting cards with a sleeve, or taking care not to overtighten the screws, so it wouldn't surprise me if some of those will be worse for wear when removed.
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