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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>I know this is an extremely large set, but it doesn't seem to have an enormous amount of portraits from what I have seen. I have Manion and Lipe. What other portraits are out there? Is there a list somewhere? I think it would be an attractive subset to put together.

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>Hi Paul,<br /><br />I am also very fond of the portraits that appear in the T210 set. I have started to collect a little outside of my normal T210 collecting habits (strictly series 2) and begun to collect portraits. So far i've only grabbed up two but I haven't really pursued them too much. They really do make for an amazing looking card. The series 6 Paris players are amongst my favorite as well as the series 6 Frankfort players. I can't help you with how many portaits there are total in the set, though action poses seem much more prevalent. <br /><br />Since we're already on T210s, does anyone else find it extremely odd that out of over 600 cards only one is horizontal ? I guess I don't find it strange that there are so few horizontals, as some sets have zero, but only including one is a bit odd. You would think that if they decided to make one horizontal card that they would have included a few more.<br /><br /><img src="http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m84/mzm55cards/T210s.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I'm close to having series 6 complete. Here are the 5 portraits I have... and I'm fairly certain these 5, Angermeir, Cornell, Hoffman, Kuhlmann, and Scheneberg, they are the only portraits in series 6.<br /><br />I'd love to see more.<br /><br />Frank W.<br /><br /><img src="http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/redborderseries6portraits.jpg"><br />

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>So we're talking maybe 40-50 portraits total? Thanks for posting those so far. <br /><br />Who is the one horizontal Zach?

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>I just got finished browsing all of my T210 images. Here are the portraits I could find. More likely exist, but these are undoubtfully the majority of them in the set.<br /><br />Angermeir<br />Cornell<br />Cowman<br />Crable<br />Hill<br />Hise<br />Hoffman<br />Hooker<br />Hornsby<br />Kaphan<br />Kuhlmann<br />Lipe<br />Merritt<br />Messitt<br />Neuton<br />Northen<br />Pressly<br />Revelle<br />Riley<br />Scheneberg<br />Schrader<br />Spangler<br />Watson<br />Wickenhofer<br /><br /><br />I can't remember the name of the only horizontal card in the set, although he does appear in the third series.<br /><br />Edited to add that the Hornsby mentioned above (series 3) is or I guess was Rogers Hornsby's older brother.<br />

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Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>My two represenatatives......<br /><br />Schrader<br /><br /><img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/brooksie05/Pre-War%20Tobacco%20Caramel%20and%20Other%20Type%20Car ds/vintage1910t210series2.jpg"><br /><br />and....<br /><br />Wickenhofer<br /><br /><img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/brooksie05/Pre-War%20Tobacco%20Caramel%20and%20Other%20Type%20Car ds/vintage1910t210series3.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>Thanks James. Both of those are beautiful cards. I guess I forgot the Wickenhofer as I know the image of the card well and have owned one before. Another player that needs to be added is Watson.

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/websize/T210per20Burch.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>but add malloy to the list<br /><br /><img src="http://www.internetville.com/stuff/malloy.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>I made a mistake, I have Schrader and not Lipe. I think I have seen Lipe though, same shot as t206. I would leave it out unless someone else has seen one. Add Corkhill as I found an image of his. By my count it is up to 26. Only 1 in series 1. 6 in series 2. 14 in series 3. 5 in series 6. No portraits in series 4,5,7,8 yet. It looks as though the whole Houston team could be portraits with only Bell, Carlin and Rose uncomfirmed out of 12 total.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Add Breivogel to the list. Here's the three I have:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1167021162.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1167021188.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1167021207.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>A few more to add...<br />Series 1-Manion<br />Series 3-Bell<br />Series 7-Cowell<br />Series 8-Foster, Dick, Hart<br /><br />The horizontal in Series 3 is Morris. <br />Rogers' brother with Houston was Everett Hornsby.<br /><br />-Rhett

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>Looking at the Erbe book it seems the following are probables for a portrait version, as they have 2 cards in the set.<br /><br />Series 1<br />Lee(Macon)<br /><br />Series 2<br />Smith(Lynchburg)<br /><br />Series 3<br />Smith(Shreveport)<br /><br />Series 5<br />Corbett(Anderson)<br />Roth(Spartanburg)<br /><br />Series 6<br />Goostree(Winchester)<br /><br />Series 7<br />Gastmeyer(Rocky Mount)<br /><br />Series 8<br />Thomas(Montgomery)<br />DeMontreville(New Orleans)<br /><br />Approximately 40 total if these are verified.

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Add Phillips Montgomery Series 8 to the list...<br /><br /><br /> Be well Brian

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Hey Paul, What is the Erbe book????<br /><br />Goostree in T210 series 6 has 2 cards, one of him standing with his hands behind his back, the other leaning on a bat (and I dearly want to buy the one with the bat). Here's the former version, and it is not a portrait.<br /><br /><img src="http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/23GoostreeWinchesterhandsbehindback.jpg"><br /><br /><br />I have a few other T210s with portraits. Had more, but sold and traded them so I could focus on series 6. Manion is in series 1, Messitt and Revelle are in series 2, and Whiteman is in series 8. <br />Dutch Revelle was an interesting pitcher, it seems he was always just on the edge of making a major league team as the spring training and tour wound down, he'd pitch one of the last games, and then get cut from the squad.<br /><br /><img src="http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/T210portraits.jpg"><br /><br /><br />Please tell me more about Erbe.... thanks.<br />

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>Frank, <br /><br />The American Premium Guide to Baseball Cards by Ron Erbe. Although the book is from 1982, I use it quite a bit for checklists. The OJ checklists are really good.

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Thank you, Paul. I've just ordered a used copy off of ABE.

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>So we need someone to go back through all of this, and create a corrected list of the portrait cards...

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>Hi Frank,<br /><br />I created one a few days ago with each player, their team, and what series the player is in. I will post it later this afternoon. In the meantime, any other T210 portraits not listed above out there ?

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>So far I have counted 37 confirmed portraits. Please add or subtract if you have a different list. There are other probables but let's try to keep editing this list because it gets confusing(at least for me it does). <br /><br />Series 1<br /><br />JACKSONVILLE-Manion<br />MACON-Lipe<br /><br />Series 2<br /><br />DANVILLE-Hooker, Schrader<br />LYNCHBURG-Breivogel<br />PORTSMOUTH-Cowan<br />RICHMOND-Messitt, Revelle<br />ROANOKE-Neuton, Presley<br /><br />Series 3<br /><br />GALVESTON-Cable(Crable), Kaphan, Riley, Spangler<br />HOUSTON-Bell, Church, Corkhill, Hill, Horsnby, Malloy, Merritt, Northern, Watson, Wichendorfer<br />SHREVEPORT-Cowan<br /><br />Series 4(none so far)<br /><br />Series 5(none so far)<br /><br />Series 6<br /><br />FRANKFORT-Angermeir, Hoffman<br />PARIS-Kuhlman, Scheneberg<br />WINCHESTER-Cornell<br /><br />Series 7<br /><br />WILSON-Cowell<br /><br />Series 8<br /><br />MEMPHIS-Dick<br />MONTGOMERY-Hart, Phillips, Whiteman, Greminger<br />NEW ORLEANS-Doster<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>I have one Series 3 and three Series 8 - all non-portrait.<br />Funny, I never realized it until now.<br /><br />Mark

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>I can add from my duplicates:Lipe-Macon(series 1); Cowan-Portsmouth(series 2) and Greminger-Montgomery(series 8).<br /><br />BTW, the following duplicates are available if anyone is working on portraits:<br /><br />Series 1-Lipe<br />Series 2-Pressly,Neuton,Cowan,Breivogel<br />Series 3-Bell,Merritt,Corkhill,Wickenhoffer,Riley<br />Series 7-Cowell<br />Series 8-Hart,Greminger<br /><br />My email address is oldjudge@gmail.com

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Posted By: <b>martindl</b><p><br />Heres the horizontal Murray. Not mine but from a group of scans I'd saved.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1167586099.JPG">