Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The T206 Ty Cobb (red portrait) must be the most available T206 subject. And, this is understandable,<br /> as it was printed with at least 25 different backs.<br /><br />Here is a list of these backs in their scarcity ranking....as I've seen them in 26 years of collecting T206's.<br />Others might differ with this ranking....and, that's fine....anyhow, what are your inputs on this....and, do<br />you have any new backs to report ?<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/acobbtycobb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />The scarcest..........<br /><br />Brown LENOX<br />Broad Leaf 460<br />DRUM<br />Red HINDU <br />UZIT<br /><br />Next scarcest group....<br /><br />American Beauty 350 (frame)<br />Carolina Brights<br />Cycle 460<br />El Principe de Gales<br />Black LENOX<br />Piedmont 460 Fac. 42<br />Sovereign 460<br /><br />Moderately tough...........<br /><br />Cycle 350<br />OLD MILL<br />Piedmont 460 Fac 25<br />Sovereign 350<br />Sweet Cap 350 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 350 Fac 30<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 30<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 42<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 42 ovpt<br />Tolstoi<br /><br />Most available..........<br /><br />Piedmont 350 Fac 25<br />POLAR BEAR<br /><br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>hi ted,<br />which is the most difficult sweet caporal back with a red cobb front?<br />thanks in advance,<br />andy

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I was just wondering a couple days ago how many different backs the red Cobb had, & then I see your post. Thanks for posting! I don't own a single one, but any one of them is currently at the top of my wantlist.<br /><br /><br />edited to add that I've recently realized the beauty of T206's & how fascinating all the back varities are. I may be a little slow, but I get there eventually!!!

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />I believe the six superperints (and hence Cobb Red) are available with SC 460/30.<br /><br />They may also be possible with AB 460 and Brown Lenox.<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Thanks for the additional two backs.....I will include them in the appropriate grouping on the list.<br />I posted this Thread in response to two identical inquiries (on the Red Cobb) from Net54er's. As<br />I greatly value your opinion.....how close is my subjective ranking of the different backs for this<br /> Cobb ?<br /><br />2nd question - since you mentioned the 6 Super Prints, can you explain why the Evers (Chi-bat)<br />is considerably tougher than the other five with respect to the scarcer backs ?<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I am adding the Brown LENOX to the list per Scot Reader's suggestion. If this "baby" ever shows up........<br />it will rival the Red Cobb with a Ty Cobb back, in order of scarcity.<br /><br />Incidently, I just can't add the Ty Cobb back to this list of Red Cobb's. Some would say he is a "T206"....<br />while others will say not.....there is no certainty.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />I think you are pretty close on the order; although I think<br /><br />Piedmont 460/25<br />Sweet Caporal 350/30<br />Sweet Caporal 460/30<br />Sweet Caporal 460/42 OP<br /><br />are less difficult than<br /><br />Cycle 350<br />Old Mill<br />Sovereign 350<br />Sweet Caporal 460/25<br />Sweet Caporal 460/42<br />Tolstoi<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>SCOT<br /><br />I have re-ordered the more available group of backs per your suggestion.<br />Thanks for your expertise on this.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/acobbtycobb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />The scarcest..........<br /><br />Brown LENOX<br />Broad Leaf 460<br />DRUM<br />Red HINDU <br />UZIT<br /><br />Next scarcest group....<br /><br />American Beauty 350 (frame)<br />American Beauty 460 Fac 42<br />Carolina Brights<br />Cycle 460<br />El Principe de Gales<br />Black LENOX<br />Piedmont 460 Fac. 42<br />Sovereign 460<br /><br />Moderately tough...........<br /><br />Cycle 350<br />OLD MILL<br />Sovereign 350<br />Sweet Cap 350 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 42<br />Tolstoi<br /><br />Most available..........<br /><br />POLAR BEAR<br />Piedmont 350 Fac 25<br />Piedmont 460 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 350 Fac 30<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 30<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 42 ovpt<br /><br /><br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Delete

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Not counting the King of the T206 Red Portrait World, the King of the Smoking Tobacco World, the Ty Cobb brand back? !?!?! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><img src="http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2497/t206cobbcobbbackcutag0.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />P.S. I am not trying to restart this tired debate.

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>By the way, have you all looked at the preview of the Mastro Live auction? There is a really sharp Ty Cobb back coming up.<br />JimB<br /><br /><a href="http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Previe w%20Lot%20Information&DisplayIndex=2" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Previe w%20Lot%20Information&DisplayIndex=2</a>

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Hey guy....what took you so long....my bets were that you would chime in by early this morning in response<br /> to this thread.<br /><br />I hope yow realize that the Cobb on display here is the front of the one you favor.<br /><br />No debate here Jim......the Ty Cobb backed card is a unique and very "mystical" card and here's wishing we<br /> find out its true origin someday in the not too far off future.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Hi Ted,<br />I thought that it looked familiar from the REA find of '97.<br />Take care,<br />JimB

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>JIM B<br /><br />There is no mistaking the Red Cobb with the Ty Cobb back from the front......<br /><br />His hair is more blonde and his eyes are a clear blue......<br /><br />And, are there any other subtle identifying differences from the regular Red Cobb,<br /> with respect to the front ?<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>The Red Cobb with its 26 different backs (or 27, if Jim is correct) was printed with far more backs<br /> than any other T206 in this respect.<br /><br />Cobb is the "king" of the Six Super Prints. The five other ones are.....<br /><br />Diff. Backs<br />_________<br /><br />19............Mathewson (dark cap)<br />18............Chance (portrait-yellow)<br />18............Chase (portrait-blue)<br />17............Chase (dark cap)<br />16............Evers (bat-yellow sky)<br /><br />And, the following 350/460 Series cards are available with many diff. backs.....note how often you<br /> see these Subjects on ebay or at shows (relative to other T206's).<br /><br />Diff. backs<br />_________<br /><br />17............Baker<br />17............Bender (No trees)<br />17............Burch (fldg)<br />16............Cobb (bat off)<br />18............Downey (bat)<br />15............Doyle (bat)<br />18............Elberfeld (fldg-Wash)<br />17............Griffith (bat)<br />17............Jennings (dancing)<br />16............Jennings (one hand)<br />18............Johnson (pitching)<br />15............Jordan (bat)<br />15............Joss (pitching)<br />15............Konetchy (glove low)<br />16............Manning (pitching)<br />15............Mullin (bat)<br />17............O'Leary (hands on knees)<br />17............Reulbach (no glove)<br />16............Seymour (throwing)<br />15............Stahl (glove)<br />15............Street (fldg)<br />16............Willetts<br /><br /><br />TED Z<br />

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />Putting aside the Cobb Back, why do you think the other five superprints were printed with fewer T206 backs than Cobb Red? I have always thought these six subjects could be found with a common set of backs.<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I think the answer to your excellent question is written in the BB encyclopedia.<br /><br />Cobb batted a league-leading .377 and drove in 100+ runs in 1909.....helping Detroit to win the AL pennant.<br /><br />Note also in the list, the Detroit subjects printed with a large variety of backs....a 2nd Cobb in the 350/460<br /> series, Jennings (dancing), Jennings (one hand), Mullin (bat), O'Leary, and Willetts.<br /><br />If I recall correctly, in your timeline, this series was being designed right after the 1909 season ended. And,<br /> everyone wanted a "piece" of Cobb; so, ATC gave the public what they wanted by providing him in as many<br /> tobacco packs as were available to the public.<br /> <br /><br />Anyhow, I'm sure some more backs will be confirmed for the 5 other super-prints, but none of these subjects<br /> will approach having the numerous backs that the Red Cobb has.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p> Hi Ted,<br /> I agree, I think we'll see a few more of the Superprints surface with different backs. But, knowing Cobb and his ego, he probably insisted his photo was printed more than anyone elses. Besides, they probably had to pay him more, so they might as well print more... Be well Brian

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Ted, Brian:<br /><br />Consider the following:<br /><br />1. There are more T206 subjects depicting Chase (5) than Cobb (4).<br />2. There are more superprints of Chase (2) than Cobb (1).<br />3. ATC was located in New York--where of course Chase played.<br /><br />My guess is that all six superprinted subjects enjoyed very similar print runs.<br /><br />[And in my experience watching eBay, Chase (Dark Cap) is just about as ubiquitous as Cobb (Red)].<br /><br />Scot<br /><br />Edited to add: Also, Ted, you have (quite impressively) been able to acquire all superprints with Sovereign 460 EXCEPT Cobb (Red). I believe this would hint, at least, that Cobb (Red) was printed in no greater numbers than the other superprints.

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I am not sure that the two cards of Chase, Chance, and in particular, Evers will be found with as many<br /> backs as the Red Cobb.<br /><br /> And, I say this because Chase (portrait-blue) is my very 1st T206 (acquired 26 yrs ago) and my favorite.<br /> I have most of the variety of backs Chase was printed with (including Broad Leaf) and I've not seen any<br /> more than the currently confirmed 18 backs.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BRIAN W and SCOT R<br /><br />Matty is my best guess, as the subject that will approach having as many backs as Cobb. He was more <br />popular in the New York scene than any other ballplayer. His won-lost (89-26) record for the T206 plan-<br />ning years (1908-10) was amazing. Actually, I'm surprised the T206 guys didn't print a 4th pose of him.<br /><br />While I'll agree that the card of Chase (dark cap) is, as ubiquitous (neat adjective, Scot) as the red Cobb,<br /> this Chase has a lot of catching up to do.<br /><br />And Scot, you deserve the credit for my Sovereign 460 Matty and Chance, as you 1st found them for me.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>You guys motivated me to do some added research on the 6 super-prints. Here are the revised (upward) number<br /> of diff. backs for each of these subjects......<br /><br />Diff backs<br />________<br /><br />26............Cobb (red)<br />20............Mathewson (dark cap)<br />20............Chance (portrait-yellow)<br />19............Chase (portrait-blue)<br />19............Chase (dark cap)<br />18............Evers (bat-yellow sky)<br /><br /><br />Regarding Matty....missing from his #s are, DRUM, LENOX, and Red HINDU. These three backs are found among<br /> the other 5 super-prints; therefore, there is a high probability that Matty will be found with these. That would<br />raise his number of backs up to 23....very close to Cobb's 26.<br /><br />Also, Broad Leaf 350 is a possibility....but, the only super-print I know of with the BL 350 back is Chase (blue).<br />And, this I can vouch for since I have it. <br /><br />SCOT<br /><br />Speaking about Cobb.....upon your suggestion, I added the American Beauty 460 back to Cobb's list. Now, I'd<br /> like to ask you why....when none of the super-prints have been confirmed with this back ?<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />I have no proof that any of the six superprints is extant with AB460. My argument for their existence is simply one of symmetry: These six are the only T206 subjects that can be found with BOTH Sovereign 350 and 460 and with BOTH Cycle 350 and 460--so why not with BOTH American Beauty 350 and 460? On the other hand, American Beauty, while difficult, is not exceedingly rare--so maybe we would have seen at least one of these six with AB 460 by now if they indeed existed.<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Correct me if I am wrong on this.....American Beauty 350, Cycle 350 & 460, and Sovereign 350 & 460 are all Factory 25.<br />Am Bty 460 is Fac 42....and there in lies the difference.<br /><br /> Over the years I've tried to collect Am Bty backs as the Green colored backs have always appealed to me; and, I don't<br /> recall seeing any of the six S-S with AB 460 backs.

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />Interesting observation.<br /><br />I draw an analogy based on series and you show it is imperfect based on factories.<br /><br />Touche.<br /><br />I will note, however, that all six superprints appear with Piedmont 460 Factory 42, Sweet Caporal 460 Factory 42 and Sweet Caporal 460 Factory 42 Overprint. So, if indeed the superprints are not possible with AB460, it is not because these subjects never appear with a 460/42 back.<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Yes, Factory 42 shows up with the Piedmont and Sweet Cap brands; however, I think you'll agree that the AB 460<br /> backs were printed at the very tail end of T206 production line. And, my main proof of this, is that the majority of<br /> them exist with subjects in the 460-only series. And, very few belong to the subjects in the 350/460 series.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>The more I think about this possible "no-print" AB 460 scenario with the SIX S-S subjects, I see it as related the S-S cards<br /> existing with the AB 350-frame backs. There exists a mutally exclusive scenario between these two AB backs; therefore, we <br />cannot expect to find the S-S with AB 460 backs.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />Perhaps.<br /><br />My thinking has always been that the six superprints were originally conceived as 350-only subjects (hence like 350-only subjects they appear with the AB350 <i>WITH</i> frame back), but due to their popularity these six were extended into the 460 series. When they decided on the extension, ATC didn't bother to reprint these six with the AB350 <i>NO</i> frame back that first appeared with the 350/460 regular print subjects. However, this still doesn't explain adequately in my mind why these six were not printed with the AB460 back--which appears on 350/460 RP subjects as well as 460-only subjects.<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I'm still trying to come up with a logical explanation to support my feeling that we are not going to find AB 460 backs<br /> on these 6 cards.<br /> <br />Your point that ATC originally intended these to be just part of the 350-only series (given the AB 350-frame backs)<br /> sounds very plausible. Perhaps when they designed the subsequent series they needed 6 cards to fill out the printing<br /> sheet, they reached back and chose these 6 subjects (just as you said....due to their popularity).<br /> Speaking about popularity, why not include a Tinker card in this group of super-prints, instead of two Chase cards ?<br /><br />This is exactly what happened in the 1936 Diamond Star set (with the 12 repeated players in the Hi# series). And, in<br /> the 1949 Bowman set, where 12 cards (from an early series) were reprinted to fill out the last sheet in the Hi# series.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />&lt;&lt;Perhaps when they designed the subsequent series they needed 6 cards to fill out the printing sheet, they reached back and chose these 6 subjects (just as you said....due to their popularity).&gt;&gt;<br /><br />Sounds very plausible.<br /><br />&lt;&lt;Speaking about popularity, why not include a Tinker card in this group of super-prints, instead of two Chase cards?&gt;&gt;<br /><br />Let's assume that I am right about the six superprints being originally intended as 350-only subjects. Tinker does NOT appear in the 350-only series, thus ATC could not have chosen him as a superprint! Instead, two cards of the locally popular Prince Hal were selected for this honor.<br /><br /><br />

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Combining the data of your spread sheet, Bill's SS, various Internet sources and including the AB 460 cards<br /> I have, yielded approx. 50 of the possible 110 subjects with AB 460 backs. <br /><br />Therefore, I am going to start an American Beauty 460 thread and see what shows up ? <br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>You said......<br />"Let's assume that I am right about the six superprints being originally intended as 350-only subjects.<br /> Tinker does NOT appear in the 350-only series....."<br /><br />There is a Tinker (bat off shoulder) in the 350/460 series; and, could've been selected to round out the<br /> popular Tinker-Evers-Chance trio. But, since he was not, I think this adds more credence to your theory<br />regarding the 6 super-prints having been originally intended ONLY for the 350 series.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Ted, Scott, thank you both for this fine, informative thread. This kinda stuff is what we should be posting about. Great stuff!!! Frank.

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>You are welcome......and, we try our best and sometimes we succeed.<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>UPDATED......7/14/07......due to unknown status of American Beauty 460 back<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/acobbtycobb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />The scarcest..........<br /><br />Brown LENOX<br />Broad Leaf 460<br />DRUM<br />Red HINDU <br />UZIT<br /><br />Next scarcest group....<br /><br />American Beauty 350 (frame)<br />American Beauty 460 Fac 42........not confirmed ?<br />Carolina Brights<br />Cycle 460<br />El Principe de Gales<br />Black LENOX<br />Piedmont 460 Fac. 42<br />Sovereign 460<br /><br />Moderately tough...........<br /><br />Cycle 350<br />OLD MILL<br />Sovereign 350<br />Sweet Cap 350 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 42<br />Tolstoi<br /><br />Most available..........<br /><br />POLAR BEAR<br />Piedmont 350 Fac 25<br />Piedmont 460 Fac 25<br />Sweet Cap 350 Fac 30<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 30<br />Sweet Cap 460 Fac 42 ovpt<br /><br /><br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Hi Ted,<br /><br />Tinker (Bat Off) is a 350/460 regular print. Thus, he is theoretically possible with the American Beauty NO FRAME back but not the American Beauty WITH FRAME back and could NOT have been selected as a superprint. The superprints were selected from among the 350-only series subjects, not from among the 350/460 regular print subjects. Or so the theory goes.<br /><br />Scot

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I just singled out this particular Tinker card as an example of....if ATC's choice for the six S-S was indeed<br /> a "popularity" decision, then they might have selected him (instead of Chase-dark cap).<br /><br />But, the fact that they did not....I am saying further reinforces your "350-only" theory in selecting the six.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>For comparison....the subjects in the 150/350 Series with the highest number of different backs are.....<br /><br />Diff. backs (confirmed)<br />_________<br /><br />12............Griffith (portrait)<br />12............Johnson (portrait)<br />11............Bresnahan (portrait)<br />11............Delahanty (Washington)<br />11............Donovan (portrait)<br />11............Kling<br />11............O'Leary (portrait) <br /><br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>The Red Cobb with its 25 different backs (or 26, if Jim is correct) was printed with far more backs<br /> than any other T206 in this respect.<br /><br />Cobb is also the "king" of the Six Super Prints. The five other ones are.....<br /><br />Diff. Backs........UPDATED 7/17/07<br />_________<br /><br />20............Mathewson (dark cap)<br />20............Chance (portrait-yellow)<br />19............Chase (portrait-blue)<br />19............Chase (dark cap)<br />18............Evers (bat-yellow sky)<br /><br />And, the following 350/460 Series cards are the runner-ups with many diff. backs.....<br /><br />Diff. backs........UPDATED 7/17/07<br />_________<br /><br />17............Baker<br />17............Bender (No trees)<br />17............Burch (fldg)<br />16............Cobb (bat off)<br />15............Conroy (bat)<br />18............Downey (bat)<br />15............Doyle (bat)<br />18............Elberfeld (fldg-Wash)<br />17............Griffith (bat)<br />17............Jennings (dancing)<br />16............Jennings (one hand)<br />18............Johnson (pitching)<br />15............Jordan (bat)<br />15............Joss (pitching)<br />15............Konetchy (glove low)<br />16............Manning (pitching)<br />15............Mullin (bat)<br />15............Murphy (bat)<br />17............O'Leary (hands on knees)<br />17............Reulbach (no glove)<br />16............Seymour (throwing)<br />15............Stahl (glove)<br />15............Street (fldg)<br />16............Willetts<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Dustan Hedlin</b><p>Does this mean that the Cobb is less likely to increase in value compared to other HOF cards in the set? Seems like it's much more plentiful than any other card, but it's still Cobb. I didn't buy mine for investment, but this thread has sparked my curiosity.

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>DUSTAN<br /><br />The demand for Ty Cobb cards has always been very high. Therefore, the T206 Red Cobb's value, despite<br /> its easy availability, will keep going up. The Green Cobb, however, is a better T206 with respect to value<br /> appreciation.<br />There are only 8 confirmed backs of this Cobb....and, the fact that it was issued in the very 1st series of<br /> T206's....makes it a much tougher Cobb to find.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Comparing the four T206 cards of Cobb with respect to their different backs.....<br /><br />150/350 Series<br /><br />Diff. backs<br />_________<br /><br />9..............Bat on shoulder<br /><br />8..............Green Cobb<br /><br /><br />350/460 Series<br /><br />Diff. backs<br />_________<br /><br />25.............Red<br /><br />17.............Bat Off<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Ted, I sincerely hope you will publish or upload a monograph on all of your T206 research once it is "complete" (as if!). I find all of this fascinating as you drill down into the different brand/player/back possibilities.

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Some other NET54er's have asked me this same the question.....what form do you suggest would be<br /> most advantageous to most who are interested ?<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Let's end this thread with a popularity contest.....which of the four T206 Cobb's do you favor ?<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/cobbcobbps.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/batoncobb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/cobbsov350.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/acobbtycobb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Bat Off Cobb is probably my favorite T206, the color is unbeatable!<br /><br />And if you decide to write the Ted206 monograph, I think a website would work well if you have the software and skill set. <br /><br />

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>My pick is the Green Cobb.<br />A fav, second only to the angelic Johnson portrait in the 206 heaven.<br /><br />A monograph by TRex is a great idea!! I'd buy it immediately!<br /><br />best,<br />barry

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>t206 threads with scot and ted are always a learning experience for me. thanks guys!<br />as you probably both know from emails, my favorite is far and away the red cobb portrait. <br />regards,<br />andy

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I agree with you....the Green one is my favorite....from an aesthetic standpoint, it appeals<br /> to me the most. And, since it was always more of a challenge to find this Cobb.<br /><br /> Also, the fact that it was the very 1st of the four Cobb's to be issued.<br /><br />TED Z

Red Cobb - 26 diff backs....your favorite T206 Cobb is ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Our very limited sample indicates the following T206 Cobb preferences.....<br /><br />2.....Green Cobb<br />1.....Red Cobb<br />1.....Cobb (bat off)<br />0.....Cobb (bat on)