Does T216 Wagner contradict his T206 story ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I have not seen this subject up for debate on this Forum.<br /><br />The T216 tobacco card set, issued between 1911 - 1916, can<br />be found with three backs....the most common is KOTTON cig-<br />arettes. The rare backs are MINO and Virginia Extra. These<br />brands represent the Peoples Tobacco Co. of Louisiana.<br /><br />Honus Wagner is depicted on four cards of this issue, either<br />in batting or throwing poses. These cards were obviously<br />printed subsequent to his "No Cigarette Endorsement" with<br />respect to the T206 set.<br /><br />Do we have here a gross contradiction in the original story<br />of his T206 card, or what ?<br />Can someone please provide a plausible explanation ?<br />

Does T216 Wagner contradict his T206 story ?
 

Posted By: <b>David Vargha</b><p>Whenever someone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.<br><br>DavidVargha@hotmail.com

Does T216 Wagner contradict his T206 story ?
 

Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Not that this is relevant, but for my own education, i thought it was 1911-14<br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

Does T216 Wagner contradict his T206 story ?
 

Posted By: <b>josh wolf</b><p>It doesn't necessarily contradict his story because the T206 set was widely distributed and T216 was a regional Louisana issue. I spoke to Rob Lifson about this awhile back and according to him the use of Wagner's image in this issue was done without his knowledge and/or permission. I'm not saying I believe his T206 story but with T216 being a regional issue it's possible that Wagner simply didn't know his image was being used.

Does T216 Wagner contradict his T206 story ?
 

Posted By: <b>Rick</b><p>We know he didnt mind tabacco itself ..maybe he just didnt care for cigarettes, maybe he thought they were femenine or too snotty.\<br /><br />If it was about money how come none of the other superstars made a fuzz about it?<br /><br />

Does T216 Wagner contradict his T206 story ?
 

Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>My memory could be failing me, but wasn't there a 1911 issue of Sporting News recently found that had an article about Wagner not signing on with the American Tobacco Co. for the so-called T206 set because he did not want to encourage kids to buy packs of cigarettes? He even gave the guy who came to get him to sign on $10, which was his kickback for every major leaguer signed up, so that he would not personally be affected by Honus' decision. I thought this issue was put to rest regarding the T206. Does this sound familiar to anyone else? I would agree with Robe Lifson regarding the T216, Wagner probably was unaware of it way up in Pittsburg.<br />JimB