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Vintagecatcher 08-30-2023 09:58 PM

Images of cards rarely seen!
 
You know a card is truly rare when you can't find an image of it online.

I recently was reviewing the checklist for the 1912 zeenut set, and I realized there were 3 cards of players, who were catchers, which I don't recall ever seeing an image of anywhere.

Clarence Brooks (LA)
Ralph Kreitz
John L. Sullivan

Anyone have images of any of these players?

Lets see lists of other cards that fit this criteria.

Patrick

brass_rat 08-30-2023 10:27 PM

D303 Mothers' Bread -- Rube Bressler and Nap Lajoie

I think Bressler exists, but I'm not completely convinced that Lajoie does.

Here's a thread I ping periodically:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250083

Casey2296 08-30-2023 10:29 PM

Great idea for a thread, as a self admitted rare card collector with rabbit hole issues I look forward to the member posts.

cgjackson222 08-31-2023 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brass_rat (Post 2368914)
D303 Mothers' Bread -- Rube Bressler and Nap Lajoie

I think Bressler exists, but I'm not completely convinced that Lajoie does.

Here's a thread I ping periodically:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250083

Not sure if this is evidence or its just a mismatched front and back: https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/215880/cid/13682415/1916-Mother's-Bread-(D303)-NNO-Nap-Lajoie

Pat R 08-31-2023 03:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher (Post 2368910)
You know a card is truly rare when you can't find an image of it online.

I recently was reviewing the checklist for the1912 zeenut set, and I realized there were 3 cards of players, who were catchers, which I don't recall ever seeing an image of anywhere.

Clarence Brooks (LA)
Ralph Kreitz
John L. Sullivan.

Anyone have images of any of these players?

Lets see lists of other cards that fit this criteria.

Patrick


Here's an image of the Brooks (not my card).

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Vintagecatcher 08-31-2023 04:52 AM

Thanks Pat!
 
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Thanks Pat for posting the cool Clarence Brooks card.

Here is Clarence Brooks other card from 1912...his 1912 HRK card.


Patrick

felada 08-31-2023 07:29 AM

Peck and Snyder James creighton.

puckpaul 08-31-2023 08:52 AM

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This Kalamazoo Bats of Mets player Al Mays is one of three known per REA. They say fewer than 10 Mets K Bats have ever been found.

brass_rat 08-31-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2368924)
Not sure if this is evidence or its just a mismatched front and back: https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/215880/cid/13682415/1916-Mother's-Bread-(D303)-NNO-Nap-Lajoie

Thanks -- I'm pretty sure that's just mismatched fronts/backs. I appreciate you checking though!

Golfcollector 08-31-2023 11:47 AM

https://d1htnxwo4o0jhw.cloudfront.ne...uo-VCzjsfQ.jpg

pete zouras 08-31-2023 11:56 AM

pinkerton
 
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duffy

packs 08-31-2023 12:27 PM

I've always wondered what the Kid Madden leaning against a rock Old Judge looked like. I assume not nearly as exciting as I'm picturing it.

Rhotchkiss 08-31-2023 01:07 PM

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Here are a couple items not rarely seen -- a Harpers Whiskey Wagner and an E92(ish) Wagner with an incorrect Menagerie back, made even more rare with a sideways view (feel free to please correct).

G1911 08-31-2023 04:08 PM

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Not mine, but these are really cool mysteries and I believe the only 2 known like this still.

z28jd 08-31-2023 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by packs (Post 2369040)
I've always wondered what the Kid Madden leaning against a rock Old Judge looked like. I assume not nearly as exciting as I'm picturing it.


Not mine, but the card has been on my wantlist. It's somewhat tough, but I've seen about 7-8 copies of it throughout the years. One was vastly overpriced on Ebay for years

packs 08-31-2023 07:11 PM

Let down as expected.

Casey2296 08-31-2023 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2369091)
Not mine, but these are really cool mysteries and I believe the only 2 known like this still.

Very cool E94 scrap.

DeanH3 08-31-2023 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2369051)
Here are a couple items not rarely seen -- a Harpers Whiskey Wagner and an E92(ish) Wagner with an incorrect Menagerie back, made even more rare with a sideways view (feel free to please correct).

Fantastic Wagner's Ryan. Love that Menagerie back

Wagner prices sure seem to be on the move this year.

shagrotn77 08-31-2023 09:41 PM

I've never been able to find an image of a 1932 Notre Dame Ed "Moose" Krause postcard.

Vintagecatcher 09-01-2023 06:02 AM

B18 Steve O'Neill (Red Pennants)
 
For years SCD's Big Book has listed a Steve O'Neill B18 (Red Pennant) as 62B.

i have never see one of these either.

A prominant auction company listed one in a lot of B14s years ago. I emailed them for an image, and my email was ignored.


Would love to see this variation as well.

Patrick

Brian Van Horn 09-01-2023 09:34 AM

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Last one added out of chronological order.

puckpaul 09-01-2023 10:02 AM

M101-1 Delahanty
 
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The only image online of this piece is with half of it cut off, so here is a whole one of this gorgeous supplement of Big Ed.

nolemmings 09-01-2023 11:27 AM

M-unc Schalk
 
Probably from 1915:
https://photos.imageevent.com/imover...17fmschalk.jpg

brianp-beme 09-01-2023 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2369091)
Not mine, but these are really cool mysteries and I believe the only 2 known like this still.

Here are a couple of articles written by the owner of one of these mystery E94 cards, with links provided by the owner of the other one.

https://prewarcards.com/2021/07/18/b...y-of-intrigue/

https://prewarcards.com/2021/09/01/t...crap-surfaces/

Brian

conor912 09-01-2023 03:23 PM

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Pretty rare…

here2havefun 09-01-2023 08:03 PM

I don't collect pre-war, so I can't compete with y'all strictly in terms of rarity. But this is pretty darn rare for post-war. 11 total copies graded, across PSA and SGC.

https://i.ibb.co/JdBRWX1/PXL-20230821-230313936.jpg

edjs 09-01-2023 09:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher (Post 2368910)
You know a card is truly rare when you can't find an image of it online.

I recently was reviewing the checklist for the 1912 zeenut set, and I realized there were 3 cards of players, who were catchers, which I don't recall ever seeing an image of anywhere.

Clarence Brooks (LA)
Ralph Kreitz
John L. Sullivan

Anyone have images of any of these players?

Lets see lists of other cards that fit this criteria.

Patrick


This is Ralph Krietz in the Oakland jersey.

Leon 09-04-2023 12:16 PM

1941 Wheaties....
 
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Love the seldom seen cards.
I think there is a list of these somewhere,but It's been a while since I saw it.

sflayank 09-04-2023 01:07 PM

Rare
 
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Only 1 known

Lucas00 09-04-2023 01:23 PM

Doubt there's a bunch of these floating around https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...10b205d974.jpg

MikeGarcia 09-04-2023 05:18 PM

Some others from that 1941 Wheaties Set
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2370050)
Love the seldom seen cards.
I think there is a list of these somewhere,but It's been a while since I saw it.

..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...FELLER_NEW.JPG


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http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...ERGIRL_NEW.JPG

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...YAGAIN_NEW.JPG

There's also a Pete Reiser and Bernie Bierman

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tlwise12 09-15-2023 12:33 PM

1937-38 Zeenut Moose Clabaugh
 
Been looking for this card forever! Haven't seen an image.

1937-38 Zeenut #45 Moose Clabaugh

YankeeCollector 09-15-2023 01:27 PM

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Super rare William Patterson Babe Ruth

packs 09-15-2023 01:31 PM

I still have no idea who issued this Dominican Winter League card but both Willie McCovey and Juan Marichal played in the league the same season and may even have pre-rookie cards of their own:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6fd5e0b7_w.jpg

brianp-beme 09-15-2023 01:59 PM

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You don't get to see a card with this much front damage normally.

Brian

ChasingPaper 09-15-2023 02:40 PM

What set are these from?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2370138)


MikeGarcia 09-15-2023 03:06 PM

Jack Armstrong Radio Program 1940?-1941? Wheaties Send In For
 
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...941JOE_NEW.JPG

glchen 09-15-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeCollector (Post 2373192)
Super rare William Patterson Babe Ruth

Wow, I love that card, Jim!

YankeeCollector 09-16-2023 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by glchen (Post 2373216)
Wow, I love that card, Jim!

Thank you Gary. Its my favorite.

brian1961 09-16-2023 09:57 AM

I agree with Gary, Jim, that's a honey of a Ruth. Congratulations. The Babe is looking right into our eyes---nice. Thanks for sharing the image with us! --- Brian Powell

jcmtiger 09-16-2023 10:22 AM

OJ George Rooks Detroit
 
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I might be wrong, but this card is seldom seen. Condition not that great.

Schlesinj 09-16-2023 10:24 AM

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Just back from PSA. 1 of 1 Mitchel Blake. I think a copy is listed with SGC too.

Attachment 589496

MikeGarcia 09-16-2023 11:50 AM

The Bierman And The Reiser from that Wheaties Set
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2373215)



..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...E_0002_NEW.JPG


..The coach Bernie Bierman is the same 5 x 7 as the other 6 already shown in the thread ; the Pete Reiser is a bit shorter -- I don't know if it came that that way originally or if it was trimmed a bit by the previous owner.? The complete set of these Wheaties-sponsored Jack Armstrong Radio Program premiums is just 8 ; five hot-name baseball players , two midwest football heroes , and Patty Berg , one of the best all-around female athletes of that pre-war era ( she really was ). 1940 or 1941 is an educated guess --- I've been looking for a mailing envelope for many years.

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rgpete 09-17-2023 07:12 AM

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I have only seen a picture of this card from the Metropolitan Mueseum of Art, which is Type 1 of the "0" numbered cards which is the top picture. The Type 2 "0" numbered series is mine. I don't remember seeing at least one of these for sale recently.

brunswickreeves 09-17-2023 07:37 AM

1910 W-UNC Honus Wagner original right facing orientation in color (3 total issues like this including T206). Only 7 total graded copies.

TheBig6 09-17-2023 09:55 AM

https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...size/chief.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...ze/schulte.jpg

rgpete 09-17-2023 02:20 PM

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Here is mine a Nap Lajoie 1913-1915 Blank Back Pinkerton seldom seen

CobbSpikedMe 09-17-2023 02:26 PM

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Don't see this card very often. It's not mine, but I randomly have an image of it saved. It's an unaltered black and white e93 Cobb. Sorry for the blurry image, it's the only image I have ever seen of this card.




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Leon 09-21-2023 09:53 AM

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Not too exciting but this is from the BST recently. I haven't seen too many B18s with this kind of overspray. I always like weird stuff LOL....

bbcard1 09-21-2023 10:46 AM

If you're looking for something truly rare, I have a photo somewhere around here from back when my collection was well organized. I can't find it.

ValKehl 09-21-2023 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbcard1 (Post 2374774)
If you're looking for something truly rare, I have a photo somewhere around here from back when my collection was well organized. I can't find it.

LOL! Todd, at least your collection once was well organized! Wish I could say the same! :)

brianp-beme 09-21-2023 12:58 PM

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Doesn't fit the OP's original criteria, but then again most of the posts don't as well. Here are three of top tier HOF'ers that are not mine, but are something not often seen.

Brian

Rhotchkiss 09-21-2023 01:21 PM

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Plows Candy cards, and the poses in them, are so awesome. What a great set

Here is a rare one - I understand it to be the first/earliest "baseball card"

Leon 09-21-2023 02:03 PM

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That's a great cdv, Ryan. I love the old cdv's.


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Aaron Seefeldt 09-21-2023 02:42 PM

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Did you know that the Vassar Sweaters is a multi-sport set?
Like the Disbrow racer (and the Walter & Lajoie I had consigned), the Cobb & Speaker were originally oversized jumbos that were cut above their midsections to fit in a scrapbook some 100+ years ago.

chiprop 09-21-2023 02:51 PM

Aaron, those are very cool! 1/1

glchen 09-21-2023 03:12 PM

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Real photo postcards typically have rarely seen images.

gabrinus 09-21-2023 03:57 PM

E-unc
 
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E-UNC MCCormick and Bridwell...incredible photography by me...Jerry

CobbSpikedMe 09-21-2023 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrinus (Post 2374877)
E-UNC MCCormick and Bridwell...incredible photography by me...Jerry

Jerry, are those yours? I love that "set". The Wagner below is my favorite Wagner card (not mine of course).



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benchod 09-21-2023 06:38 PM

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Some really great cards
Seldom seen cards are a niche of my collection
As far as I know the only complete Vassar Cobb

gabrinus 09-21-2023 06:42 PM

Yes
 
That's awesome Craig...yes, Andy those are mine...always liked that Wagner...I know we had a discussion years ago on here about those cards but I don't think we ever figured out their provenance...Jerry

BeanTown 09-22-2023 12:24 PM

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Yes, that’s an awesome card Craig.

Here is a Boston Daily Souvenir postcard of Joe Wood (only one I’ve seen) and a RPPC of Cy Young playing for an amateur team as their hired gun for the championship game.

paul 09-22-2023 02:12 PM

I have a Boston Daily Souvenir of Joe Wood, so there are at least two.

calvindog 09-22-2023 05:09 PM

Here's two very rare Cobb cards/images, I believe they're both 1/1.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5e64a632_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1f44b4bb_z.jpg

Leon 09-26-2023 12:08 PM

1860 Ambrotype
 
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I never get tired of looking at this thread...

shown many times but other than that, not too many seen.
Not technically a card but sort of close to a tintype.

Hankphenom 09-26-2023 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2376033)
I never get tired of looking at this thread...shown many times but other than that, not too many seen. Not technically a card but sort of close to a tintype.

Love that, Leon!

Leon 09-30-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2376150)
Love that, Leon!

Thanks Hank!

This is a double postcard of a person taking pictures of a women's game...

brianp-beme 09-30-2023 04:16 PM

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I assume this 1913 Zeenut of Parkin is seldom seen, as I hadn't seen it before 3 or 4 years ago (not mine). A pretty cool image and pose, even if some of you have previously laid your eyes upon it.

Brian

anchorednw 09-30-2023 06:37 PM

1893 August Beck & Co N398 "Football"
 
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One of the earliest "Football" cards and 1 of only 2 copies graded by PSA & SGC.

marcdelpercio 10-01-2023 12:51 AM

Ty Cobb Lou Gertenrich (batting)
 
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It is mislabeled and the back is badly damaged, but I believe there is only one copy of this pose on any of the pop reports. I've never seen another!

michael3322 10-01-2023 12:58 AM

Fascinating thread. Amazing cards.

How about this one?

"The first black athlete depicted on a sports card, trading card or tobacco card, Hart appears in Thomas H. Hall’s Between the Acts & Bravo Cigarettes set (1880, N344), along with nine other pedestrians and two oarsmen."

His Wikipedia entry details how Hart played baseball in the early 1880s.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Frank_Hart.jpg

calvindog 10-01-2023 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by marcdelpercio (Post 2377126)
It is mislabeled and the back is badly damaged, but I believe there is only one copy of this pose on any of the pop reports. I've never seen another!

Here’s the other.

GWmotorlodge 12-03-2023 08:43 PM

Kid manning leaning on rock 7 or 8 copies? The only one I’ve seen in the last 20 years is the one that I own. If there is really 7 or 8 copies I would love to see a scan of all of them. I was thinking maybe 3 or 4.

BuzzD 12-04-2023 04:43 AM

Carroll Boardwalk Brown
 
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How about a 1915 lantern slide of Boardwalk Brown as a Yankee?

MikeGarcia 12-04-2023 07:39 AM

Fothergill or Hallet
 
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...RS_NEW_001.JPG

..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...S_0002_NEW.JPG

..from 1933 Wheaties postcards of the Minneapolis Millers ; the last two I needed ; took about 15 years to complete the entire set. My only Jack Hallet , but I have one other " Fats" Fothergill .

..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...KESAND_NEW.JPG

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timedetective 12-16-2023 07:49 PM

Trying to determine if these baseball post cards are legit
 
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As far as the Pinkerton Postcards go I found a thread here last night from a year ago saying that if the backs are gray or white then they are copies but if they are creamy white then they are originals. Also there is some distinction between made in the us and printed in the us?

I think that the backs on my look more creamy than white is because they had been in a photo album or on somebodies wall for decades. So not 1913 but possibly post WW2 copies?

And is there any insight to these other cards that anyone can give me?

I am looking on sending them all off to a private auction house.

Thanks in advance

Brian Van Horn 12-16-2023 08:12 PM

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Brian Van Horn 12-16-2023 08:33 PM

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Brian Van Horn 12-17-2023 07:17 AM

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Exhibitman 12-17-2023 07:37 AM

The Reese is a 1953 Canadian Exhibit card. The others are either run of the mill Exhibit cards or counterfeits.

Here are a few that haven't been shown yet:

1920s Univeral Toy & Novelty Surprise Box Ruth-Johnson-Sisler-Coveleskie:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...-Alexander.jpg

1936 Jean Donat Dupont Indiana Sport Avion Babe Ruth, in by far the best known condition:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...e%20Ruth_1.jpg

1950 Sylvan Sweets Jackie Robinson mail-in offer card:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...binson%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...binson%202.jpg

1904 Sporting Life Jeffries-Munroe cabinet. Only known example:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ffries%201.jpg

R340 Sport Kings premium. Only known example:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...y%20boxers.jpg

1905 Winthrop Moving Picture PC George Dixon, only known example:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...op%20Dixon.jpg

1927 Zeenut Willie Kamm, signed:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...m%20signed.jpg

1949 Sommer & Kaufman Lefty O'Doul, signed:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...l%20signed.jpg

1970 Pele from Israel:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...eli%20Pele.jpg

1970 Muhammad Ali from Israel:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...eli%20Clay.jpg

1954 Rodine Baseball Hall of Fame PC:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...e%20PC%203.jpg

1951 Ringside Salesman Sample w/Marciano RC:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Sample%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...Sample%202.jpg


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