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tedzan 02-11-2022 03:55 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
If you are working on a T206 run of your favorite T206 in the 350/460 series, you don't want to get into a "wild-goose-chase" frustration. Certain 460 backs were not printed.
For example.....one of my favorites, "Turkey Mike" Donlin. Shown here are 4 of his tougher 460 cards I have in my run of Donlin. However, I am missing the BROAD LEAF 460
and LENOX backs

Although I have most of the cards (350 and 460) in this run, it will be very tough for me to complete this run because only one LENOX is known. And, it was only recently that
a BROAD LEAF 460 card was finally discovered of Donlin. Refer to thread.... https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=245043

The bright side of doing this run is that the very tough AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and UZIT cards are NO-PRINTS due to the Mutually-Exclusive factor in the 2nd print run and
the 3rd print run of the 350/460 series cards.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eaf460back.jpg------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...LENOXx37_1.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...le460x25bx.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ycle460x25.jpg----https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...inRedHINDU.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedHINDUbx.jpg



PIEDMONT #42
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ize/abc118.jpg----https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...p3x4Fac30x.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...actory30bx.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Tao_Moko 02-11-2022 05:04 PM

Hey Ted,

Pretty simple for me - Lundgren Carolina Brights.

I honestly want it more than a Wagner, Plank or Doyle. I've seen one come up and it was at a don't want to sell it price.

E

Rhotchkiss 02-11-2022 05:12 PM

My first Tinker bat off was an Uzit, so I figured now that I have the “toughie”, the rest should be easy. Yea right…. The Piedmont factory 42 is brutal (on 3 known), the AB 460 is tough as hell, and believe it or not, the SC 350, 25 was very very difficult. Those Sweet Cap 350, 25s can be super tough. And, of course, the brown Lenox was a bear, only 1 known. I thought it would be an easy back run. It’s now complete but it was NOT easy

Also near complete on Evers Yellow Sky, Chance Yellow portrait, and Speaker.

DeanH3 02-11-2022 05:25 PM

Expense is my challenge. No way I ever afford a Drum or Broad Leaf. So I have accepted that my Matty dark cap run will never be completed. I'll just chip away and add what I can, when I can. Hopefully a Carolina Brights, Cycle or Pied 42 sometime in the near future.

Casey2296 02-11-2022 06:01 PM

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I'm not a T206 guy but am doing a Piedmont portrait run, my biggest challenge is finding near perfect centering (OCD) and cards with substantial borders.
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bbcard1 02-11-2022 06:12 PM

I'm down to a Drum on my Davidson run. I got the Broadleaf before it got out of sight (still $800-900 or so) and got the Carolina Bright when I bought a small group of them, long since liquidated. I think there have been four graded. Some of the other backs don't have many more copies but weren't that hard to find, but I have never even gotten a sniff of a Drum.

DeanH3 02-11-2022 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2196016)
I'm not a T206 guy but am doing a Piedmont portrait run, my biggest challenge is finding near perfect centering (OCD) and cards with substantial borders.
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That WaJo is a beauty Phil. I too suffer from the centered, fat bordered T206 syndrome. LOL!

MuncieNolePAZ 02-11-2022 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2196016)
I'm not a T206 guy but am doing a Piedmont portrait run, my biggest challenge is finding near perfect centering (OCD) and cards with substantial borders.
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Beautiful WaJo Phil!

As far as challenges, I am doing a WaJo run of both poses. Focusing on portrait, finances are definitely an issue with Old Mill. I couldn’t afford one that finally came up a month or so ago even in lowest grade. Haven’t had much luck finding the Brown Hindu either. The other few I am missing I will get at some point once I have cash.

Chad

tedzan 02-11-2022 08:11 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for sharing your interesting stories here. Let's continue "running" this thread with more T206 runs. I'll continue this with one of my favorite....this 460-only Series McGraw.

American Lithographic divided the 46 cards in this Series in 2 print groups. This McGraw was printed in the Exclusive 12 group, comprising of 13 different backs. Here they are......


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...UZITxSGC30.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUsgc.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tory30xx12.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcB.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...VxPd4xPBxx.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SOVxPd4xPB.jpg
Factory #42...................Factory #42




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LxAB460xOM.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...YCLE460x18.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...xAB460xOMb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CLE460x18b.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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DeanH3 02-11-2022 08:31 PM

Great stuff Ted.

Here's my Matty run thus far.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=26586

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28954https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28887
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28953https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28886
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=26936https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27470
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=26937https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27469
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=30959https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27243
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=30960https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27244

t206kid 02-12-2022 07:00 AM

Wajos
 
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Wajo Drum has eluded me, but I'm not stressing too much about it!

Rhotchkiss 02-12-2022 07:55 AM

Typical Jay- only going for the crappy players and easy back runs :)

Luke 02-12-2022 11:02 AM

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Well, Jay killed the thread, but I'll post in it anyway. I've started and given up on a ton of back runs, always deciding I needed the $ for another new pickup. THis Dubuc run is the only one I've finished. It was actually pretty easy. The Tolstoi is impossible, so when I got it, I considered going for the run. His story is very wild, fun player to collect so I figured I'd go for it. A lot of these fell into my lap, and also happened to all be in nice but affordable shape (other than my Coupon Type 1).

Currently thinking of finishing the Clarke Portrait, Walsh, and Jimmy Collins runs, but haven't started buying the common backs yet.

Rich Falvo 02-12-2022 12:45 PM

I've been gradually working on runs of the Providence players. I knew the Broad Leaf, Carolina Brights and Drums might be out of reach, but I underestimated how hard the Tolstoi, EPDG, AB, and Cycles can be.

I have seven of the eight Cycles for the team, needing only Lavender.

My closest player run is Izzy Hoffman. If I ignore the BL and CB, then I only need Tolstoi.

atx840 02-12-2022 03:27 PM

Haven't added one in 5+ years, had secured the only know CB but someone talked the owner into consigning it and it is now tucked away in a very large collection. Need a BL350 (3-4 known) and the Victory (1).

https://live.staticflickr.com/5537/1...e376918d_h.jpg

tedzan 02-12-2022 07:01 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Ringo Starr (1971) said it best with his song - "It Don't Come Easy" ....when it comes to searching for T206's to complete a run of your favorite T206 guy.

My most ambitious (and most challenging) run started in 2005...... AMERICAN BEAUTY 460. I now have 73 of the 74 cards which complete this sub-set.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...igpackt206.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...obbBat25xx.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...460Manning.jpg



Here is a sampling of some in this sub-set......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...andilSGC60.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Manning50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ningsSGC60.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...teLatham_1.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...dsAB460x50.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...60DocWhite.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...agnerBatRt.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...HughDuffyX.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...haseTrophy.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...460Needham.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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wolf441 02-13-2022 05:42 AM

Dode
 
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I've since sold this run off (back in 2016), but the Cycle was the hardest to get for some reason. Took about 5 years for one to show up...

skelly423 02-13-2022 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2196330)
Ringo Starr (1971) said it best with his song - "It Don't Come Easy" ....when it comes to searching for T206's to complete a run of your favorite T206 guy.

My most ambitious (and most challenging) run started in 2005...... AMERICAN BEAUTY 460. I now have 73 of the 74 cards which complete this sub-set.


.

If you happen to have a spare Lefty Leifield batting AB460 (or choose to sell yours, let me know). Great set.

KCRfan1 02-13-2022 09:46 AM

Great cards everyone!

A few questions for you:

At what point did you decide to do a back run?

What was the first back that you purchased that began the run?

How many years did it take or have you spent on the run?

Is there a back that was surprisingly difficult that should have been easier, or a back easily obtained that should have been more difficult?

Thanks all! Love the cards.

Exhibitman 02-13-2022 01:02 PM

The only run that interests me is a run of the HOFer portraits. Money stands between me and completion even without adding a green Cobb, Plank or Wagner.

53toppscollector 02-13-2022 03:01 PM

Still waiting to find the Krause EPDG and SweetCap 350/25. One EPDG sold on ebay back in November I think, but I was distracted at the time and missed the auction. That's really the only one I am hyper focused on right now, I have an ebay alert set up for any new Krause cards that get listed. Had a chance to buy the SC 350/25 about a month ago in a willow5 auction, but it was just too pricey and it was in a nice grade, I don't need something that nice.

Bill77 02-13-2022 03:42 PM

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Started the Doolin run because it looked easy with only 9 backs to get. Started with Piedmont 150 followed by the Sweet Caporal 350/25. I have both Piedmonts and all 4 Sweet Cap backs. El Principe de Galles seems to show up only when I have no money. I have only seen the Sovereign once and it sold so fast I'm not really sure I even saw it. And to this day I have never seen the Old Mill. I don't have a scan of the Sweet Cap 150/25 because my new computer and old scanner don't want to talk to each other. The Piedmont 150 was a surprise back as it was completely covered by paper when I bought it. It is still one of the most successful soaks I have ever done.

G1911 02-13-2022 03:48 PM

I have nothing as impressive as these other gentlemen, but I’ve been toying with doing a Donlin (batting) run as well, because I love his T213-2 card with the unique “.300 batter 7 years” tag line.

My T206 challenge has oddly been getting a low grade beater of Livingston. Livingston’s T205 was my first T card I owned, so I’d like his T206 as well. It’s been 15 years now since I started casually looking, bidding the going rate or a couple bucks under every time I come across one on eBay. My records indicate I have had the #2 bid on Livingston’s on eBay 47 different times. Eventually I get one for the going rate. It’s fairly amusing such a total common has become such a long search. I’ve easily gotten over 100 other T206’s but the one I specifically want always seems to go for a few pennies over my bid.

tedzan 02-13-2022 07:49 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skelly423 (Post 2196428)
If you happen to have a spare Lefty Leifield batting AB460 (or choose to sell yours, let me know). Great set.

Sean

I don't have an extra Leifield now. However, I'm constantly looking for upgrades of my AB 460 cards, and if I find one I will pick it up for you.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Yoda 02-13-2022 09:13 PM

Ted, I, too, have been chipping away at a back run of old glove showing. It's been slow, but I have a nice little bunch going; Tolstoi, AB 460, Sov. 460, all SC facs, Prince of Wales and just picked up in the last Sterling auction a Piedmont 350-460 OP fac 42. But seriously doubt I can go much further, given the prohibitive cost of the Red Hindu and Uzit reverses. To me, the card's likeness truly resembles McGraw in real life: pugnacious, crusty and arrogant.

The pride of my T206 collection at one time was a Griffith batting PSA 7 with a Drum back. I sure wish I had held on to that bad boy. John

tedzan 02-14-2022 07:24 AM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2196691)
Ted, I, too, have been chipping away at a back run of old glove showing. It's been slow, but I have a nice little bunch going; Tolstoi, AB 460, Sov. 460, all SC facs, Prince of Wales and just picked up in the last Sterling auction a Piedmont 350-460 OP fac 42. But seriously doubt I can go much further, given the prohibitive cost of the Red Hindu and Uzit reverses. To me, the card's likeness truly resembles McGraw in real life: pugnacious, crusty and arrogant.

The pride of my T206 collection at one time was a Griffith batting PSA 7 with a Drum back. I sure wish I had held on to that bad boy. John


Hi John.....this McGraw run totals 13 backs.

The Red HINDU of this McGraw is not that tough to find; therefore, it usually doesn't command a really outrageous price.
The UZIT is virtually impossible to find. Mine is actually the only known one (so far).

Incidently....I think you meant to say "SWEET CAP 350-460 Fac. 42 OP", instead of PIEDMONT. McGraw was not printed with the PIEDMONT 350-460 Factory #42 back.


t206kid 02-14-2022 01:38 PM

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Here's another good one. Was hunting for the Boston EPDG for quite awhile. Several of the others are quite difficult but the stars aligned when I was building.

tedzan 02-14-2022 07:09 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
First, I will start this run with my "MEGA T206" of Mickey Doolan, which motivated me to do this T206 run several years ago.

I have always liked this action pose, it's a favorite of mine. Anyhow, this run started when I purchased this T3 from Don H. in Portland, Maine.


.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...3Doolan25x.jpg .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Doolan25xB.jpg


This run would be relatively easy, since there are only 9 different backs needed to complete it. But, I still need the BROAD LEAF 350 card. According to my A-B-C-D theory,
DRUM is possible; however, no DRUM has been confirmed as of this date. Furthermore, this Doolan card belongs to a very interesting group of 350-only Series cards which
were not printed with these 4 popular 350-only Series backs. Namely... CAROLINA BRIGHTS .... EPDG .... OLD MILL .... POLAR BEAR.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Cf30xscrap.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ycle350xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...PONDoolanX.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cle350bxxx.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Doolan19xB.jpg



Sweet Cap, Fact. #25
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ovTolstoiX.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vTolstoiBx.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Kevin 02-14-2022 07:19 PM

I had to make a decision about finishing the basement or buying t206s. And I bought about 130 cards last year but I really should have bought 10. I’m refocusing on the bigger cards in the set at the moment.

KCRfan1 02-14-2022 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill77 (Post 2196637)
Started the Doolin run because it looked easy with only 9 backs to get. Started with Piedmont 150 followed by the Sweet Caporal 350/25. I have both Piedmonts and all 4 Sweet Cap backs. El Principe de Galles seems to show up only when I have no money. I have only seen the Sovereign once and it sold so fast I'm not really sure I even saw it. And to this day I have never seen the Old Mill. I don't have a scan of the Sweet Cap 150/25 because my new computer and old scanner don't want to talk to each other. The Piedmont 150 was a surprise back as it was completely covered by paper when I bought it. It is still one of the most successful soaks I have ever done.


Nice work on the soak!!!!!

Great surprise with the 150 back!!!

Thanks for sharing your search!

KCRfan1 02-14-2022 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2196958)
I had to make a decision about finishing the basement or buying t206s. And I bought about 130 cards last year but I really should have bought 10. I’m refocusing on the bigger cards in the set at the moment.

So the basement will be unfinished during 2022, maybe work begins 2023?

Are you married? How does the wife feel about this.........

t206fix 02-15-2022 11:15 AM

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Not a back run... but a "front run". I made the unfortunate mistake pleasurable decision to try to collect all 613 Sweet Caporal factory 25s in all three series:

150s - 150 variations (not including Plank/Wagner)
350s - 394
460s - 69

Currently I have 547/613 needing 66 more cards - including 19 HOFers (3 Cobbs, 4 Youngs, 2 Wajos and 3 Mattys $$$$). I always said this would be a ten year project, but with the price of some that I'm missing, it may be a lot longer. However it is a fun project that keeps me in the game. When I find a tough factory 25 for a reasonable price, it keeps me going.

Here are the 460s, the first subset I finished. Most have been cracked for my binder.

nineunder71 02-15-2022 11:55 AM

A different kind of RUN
 
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Thank goodness for friends! It took me 9 years to complete this 3 card run. I guess not as easy as one might assume

HobokenJon 02-15-2022 03:11 PM

Just need one card . . . One damn card!
 
Hi, Ted. Since you asked . . . . EPDG Hummel!! Any condition will suffice!!

This shoudln't be so hard, but it's been maddening. PSA pop report shows six copies. SGC shows four copies. It isn't like this is a Pop 1 or 2 card.

Please see my B/S/T WTB post yesterday. I'm now publicly offering stupid money for one. Any sellers? It would be my great plesaure for someone out there to gouge me!

tedzan 02-15-2022 07:36 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
I refer to these guys as the Exclusive 12 of the 460-only Series. This group of 12 are unique within their Series because the other subjects in the 460-only Series were
NOT PRINTED with the red HINDU back.
In 2013, I started this red HINDU run with Tannehill. I went "gung-ho" to see how quick I could get all 12 of these HINDU's. Amazingly within one month I acquired 10
of them. However, it took me over a year to finally get Sheckard.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcX.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUx50b.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcB.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rdSheckard.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SheckardBk.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DuffyRHx50.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...rGandil25x.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...HughDuffyB.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Gandil25xb.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...INDUxSGC30.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...duHummel50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...efferRHx50.jpg

. . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eHindu25bx.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uHummel50b.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fferRHx50b.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Silverskulls 02-16-2022 05:53 AM

I'm working on an off-back HOF subset and I have had a bear of a time finding the last card I need: Mordecai Brown Cubs on Shirt with a Sov or Hindu back.

If anyone happens to know of one, hit me up!

Redleg25 02-16-2022 02:06 PM

Being a Reds off back collector my toughest has always been Mowrey, being only SOV and TOLS. Lobert comes in a close second.

tedzan 02-16-2022 07:20 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HobokenJon (Post 2197225)
Hi, Ted. Since you asked . . . . EPDG Hummel!! Any condition will suffice!!

This shoudln't be so hard, but it's been maddening. PSA pop report shows six copies. SGC shows four copies. It isn't like this is a Pop 1 or 2 card.

Please see my B/S/T WTB post yesterday. I'm now publicly offering stupid money for one. Any sellers? It would be my great plesaure for someone out there to gouge me!


Hi Jon

As you know, I have been going for an ambitious master set of the 12 cards I refer to as the Exclusive 12 (460-only Series). Each of these 12 were printed with 13 backs.

Hummel is included in this group of 12. I have yet to find a Hummel with an EPDG back. My experience collecting this group of cards is that CYCLE 460, EPDG, OLD MILL
are much tougher to find than the other 9 backs. And, it is practically impossible to find a UZIT card of these 12 guys.

Anyhow, if I find an EPDG of Hummel, I will contact you. Am I guessing correctly that this card is the last one you need to complete your EPDG run ?


Also, will I see you at the Philly Show in three weeks ?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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MVSNYC 02-16-2022 07:33 PM

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Not a player run, per se, but here's my mini Hindu "run"...

fkm_bky 02-16-2022 09:14 PM

I started the Herzog Boston run knowing I will never complete it as there is only one know example of the Uzit back. I'll have to consider it compete without it as I can't see it coming up for sale, or me wanting to pay what the asking price would be. I still love the chase. Really only tougher one's remain for me (AB460, EPDG & Cycle 460 will be very difficult to come by, but hopefully not impossible).

Bill

Yoda 02-17-2022 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2196733)
Hi John.....this McGraw run totals 13 backs.

The Red HINDU of this McGraw is not that tough to find; therefore, it usually doesn't command a really outrageous price.
The UZIT is virtually impossible to find. Mine is actually the only known one (so far).

Incidently....I think you meant to say "SWEET CAP 350-460 Fac. 42 OP", instead of PIEDMONT. McGraw was not printed with the PIEDMONT 350-460 Factory #42 back.

Ted, I did indeed mean Sweet Cap o/p fac 42 rather than Piedmont. Too many Mugsie's rattling around in my brain. Your Uzit is a trophy and wins the prize.
John.

rjackson44 02-17-2022 09:25 AM

thx ted
 
ive learned a lot from ted z ..hes the best and terrific .best octavio

Luke 02-17-2022 01:45 PM

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Awesome stuff everyone! I'd been meaning to make a collage of my HOF back run and finally got around to it. Still need to sort out a lot of Piedmont and Sweet Cap backs and hopefully someday find a BL460 and Brown Lenox. And then when it's "finished" the plan is to have no more than one of each pose represented.

MVSNYC 02-17-2022 03:27 PM

Luke, that's a stunning back run!

atx840 02-17-2022 06:02 PM

That Young RH & Speaker Drum :eek:

Very nice Luke!

HobokenJon 02-17-2022 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2197557)
Hi Jon

As you know, I have been going for an ambitious master set of the 12 cards I refer to as the Exclusive 12 (460-only Series). Each of these 12 were printed with 13 backs.

Hummel is included in this group of 12. I have yet to find a Hummel with an EPDG back. My experience collecting this group of cards is that CYCLE 460, EPDG, OLD MILL
are much tougher to find than the other 9 backs. And, it is practically impossible to find a UZIT card of these 12 guys.

Anyhow, if I find an EPDG of Hummel, I will contact you. Am I guessing correctly that this card is the last one you need to complete your EPDG run ?


Also, will I see you at the Philly Show in three weeks ?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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You smoked me out, Ted. Yes, it's the last one I need for the whole thing. ... Don't know yet about Philly, but I'm hoping to go. Will keep you posted.

HobokenJon 02-17-2022 06:23 PM

EPDG Hummel
 
And thank you Ted for offering to help! If anyone can find an EPDG Hummel, it's you!! :D

Thromdog 02-17-2022 06:46 PM

I guess I’ll play too
 
I guess I have some to show too. Here’s my Dahlen run that Jay copied me on. Yeah, I said it. ;)

I believe the Boston EPDG was my last one I needed and Scott was gracious to make a trade with me when I bought him a Hindu.

The Brooklyn Old Mill I got early on but it is the toughest of the Brooklyns but not terrible.

https://farm66.staticflickr.com/6553...46929dfd_b.jpg

Thromdog 02-17-2022 06:49 PM

And Smith
 
The Frank Smith white cap card has always intrigued me as it’s one of the lowest pop commons that isn’t considered a rarity. The EPDG is definitely the toughest of the group, but I have 3 of them. The Tolstoi is also a huge pain and it took me a long time to finally spend up and get one.

Big fan of this card obviously.

https://farm66.staticflickr.com/6553...67628bec_b.jpg

Tom S. 02-17-2022 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thromdog (Post 2197831)
The Frank Smith white cap card has always intrigued me as it’s one of the lowest pop commons that isn’t considered a rarity. The EPDG is definitely the toughest of the group, but I have 3 of them. The Tolstoi is also a huge pain and it took me a long time to finally spend up and get one.

Big fan of this card obviously.

https://farm66.staticflickr.com/6553...67628bec_b.jpg

Big thumbs up on the Smith White Cap run Jeff! I still need an EPDG and a Tolstoi to finish mine. :(

Rhotchkiss 02-17-2022 07:55 PM

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Jeff, if you are looking for the brown Lenox, I am open to trading (although it’s Chicago and Boston)

tedzan 02-17-2022 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Thromdog (Post 2197828)
I guess I have some to show too. Here’s my Dahlen run that Jay copied me on. Yeah, I said it. ;)

I believe the Boston EPDG was my last one I needed and Scott was gracious to make a trade with me when I bought him a Hindu.

The Brooklyn Old Mill I got early on but it is the toughest of the Brooklyns but not terrible.

https://farm66.staticflickr.com/6553...46929dfd_b.jpg


Hi Jeff

Dramatic Dahlen runs....both Boston and Brooklyn. Especially the Boston version, since it is one of the Elite 11 guys.

Thanks for posting them.


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Thromdog 02-17-2022 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2197851)
Jeff, if you are looking for the brown Lenox, I am open to trading (although it’s Chicago and Boston)

And I sold my beater Uzit last year…..hahaha. Not sure why I thought I could do his backrun for Chi/Bos but I gave up on it pretty quick.

Beautiful card Ryan…..

tedzan 02-18-2022 12:04 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
I could say completing this Breitenstein run was an easy one with only four T206 cards. But, it was not.
His 1910 COUPON card was very tough to find.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350xCOUPON.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...50xCOUPONb.jpg


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Harford20 02-18-2022 12:28 PM

Lajoie
 
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Honestly, the Old Mill was much tougher than the Hindu. Purchased the Hindu from a Net54 member.
Also the first Piedmont 150 here (now in a PSA 5 holder) was the first T206 card I ever purchased way back in 1989.
Dave

tedzan 02-18-2022 06:06 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Another "running mate" of the Exclusive 12 group in the 460-only Series. The only three cards I need to complete this run are the EPDG, TOLSTOI, and UZIT backs.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...lHINDUx25b.jpg.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...OLDMILLx25.jpg.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...andall25xb.jpg



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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...xAB460x25b.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...dxCY460x25.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...xCY460x25b.jpg




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DeanH3 02-18-2022 08:35 PM

I started a WaJo run a while ago, but it's slowed to barely a crawl. Jay's impressive run is very inspiring.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=22947https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=22948
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27508https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27507
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27795https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27794
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27876https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=27875

EGreenwood 02-18-2022 08:47 PM

My first T206 was an Oscar Stanage SC F30(?). My Dad got it for me when I was a kid. I have been working on a run and need Broadleaf and Tolstoi.

I was able to pick up a beat up Carolina Brights and Cycle. I figured the Tolstoi would be reasonable and the Broadleaf a dream (like the T205 Hindu).

I was wrong. I popped up on eBay for around $1,500. I may be at the end of the road for my Stanage runs.

Erik Greenwood

Rhotchkiss 02-19-2022 02:38 PM

VERY nice little run there Dean!

tedzan 02-19-2022 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 2197680)
ive learned a lot from ted z ..hes the best and terrific .best octavio


Octavio

I really appreciate your kind words here.

Best regards,


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DeanH3 02-19-2022 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2198291)
VERY nice little run there Dean!

Thanks Ryan!

tedzan 02-19-2022 07:01 PM

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And here we have Germany Schaefer. Quite a character during his BB career. Read all about him in his SABR story. You'll find it very interesting.
I started this run in 1987 when I acquired my first UZIT, which was this Germany Schaefer. I paid only $15 for it at the Cooperstown HOF Show.

I still need his CYCLE 460 and TOLSTOI cards. I have never seen this Schaefer with an EPDG back ? I do not think this front/back combo exists.

I've included his 1915 T213-2 card, which incorrectly identifies him with K.C. (Federal League). Actually, Schaefer played with Newark in 1915.



. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ferUZITx25.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...xcoupon25x.jpg
. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erUZITx25b.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...coupon50xb.jpg




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460xSC25xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SC42ovptXx.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...460xSC25xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...C42ovptXYx.jpg
Factory #42



Factory #30
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tCapFac30x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ferOLDMILL.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...haeferT206.jpg



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Pat R 02-19-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2198382)
And here we have Germany Schaefer. Quite a character during his BB career. Read all about him in his SABR story. You'll find it very interesting.
I started this run in 1987 when I acquired my first UZIT, which was this Germany Schaefer. I paid only $15 for it at the Cooperstown HOF Show.

I still need his CYCLE 460 and TOLSTOI cards. I have never seen this Schaefer with an EPDG back ? I do not think this front/back combo exists.

I've included his 1915 T213-2 card, which incorrectly identifies him with K.C. (Federal League). Actually, Schaefer played with Newark in 1915.


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This is probably why they had him with K.C.

March 27 1915
Attachment 503591


April 16 1915
Attachment 503592

tedzan 02-20-2022 08:07 AM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Frank Delahanty is my favorite T206 Minor Leaguer. I started a run of his cards several years ago. I still need the CB.

In 2008, at the Philly Show in Reading, PA....... Toby (bigfish) " Made My Day ! ". Toby sold me this Delahanty DRUM,
which completed my first A - B - C - D sub-set. As of today, this DRUM card is still unique.

The A - B - C - D connection in the 350-only Series is a pattern I first came up with approx. 14 years ago.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ntyABCDx50.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tyABCDx50b.jpg



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Gradedcardman 02-20-2022 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2196681)
Sean

I don't have an extra Leifield now. However, I'm constantly looking for upgrades of my AB 460 cards, and if I find one I will pick it up for you.


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Ted,

Hope your well. I’ll take scraps on the harder AB460’s when you upgrade !! Hope to see you in July.

Adam

tedzan 02-20-2022 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 2198531)
Ted,

Hope your well. I’ll take scraps on the harder AB460’s when you upgrade !! Hope to see you in July.

Adam


Hi Adam

Were fine here in Pennsy. How's everything in NC ?

You are the first on my list to contact, if I have any extra AB 460 cards. But, I haven't had any extras lately, other than from the Exclusive 12 group, (which I know you have).

Furthermore, on ebay this past year the only AB's I see listed are 350's (Frame or no Frame). And at the Philly Show, the AB 460's have become quite rare there, too.

Take care Adam....I look forward to seeing you in A/C this July.


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tedzan 02-20-2022 06:01 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Furthermore, illustrated here is my A - B - C - C - D sub-set, which includes a 1910 COUPON card. Note that this COUPON back's
stylized design resembles that of the A - B - C - D connection. And tells us that the same American Lithographic artist created all 5
of these backs during the 350-only Series print runs (circa Spring / Summer of 1910).

For example.... the blue Chase is my favorite T206 subject. If a DRUM card of this Chase ever shows up, I may be able to complete
my first A - B - C - C - D sub-set.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uplcate75x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LxCOxCYx25.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ldDRUMx25b.jpg


Hey guys,
For 40 years, I've been searching for a DRUM on this Chase, to no avail. If anyone in this forum has one (or has seen one), please
chime in and tell me about it.

Thanks,


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Kevin 02-20-2022 07:34 PM

Wait…so we are discussing challenges?
 
Lots going on the last few months. I’m focusing on just a few cards in 2022. And I’m looking to add my man John Frill - any and all backs. That’s where I’m at.

tedzan 02-21-2022 11:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 2198639)
Lots going on the last few months. I’m focusing on just a few cards in 2022. And I’m looking to add my man John Frill - any and all backs. That’s where I’m at.

Hi Kevin

I've had a tough time finding John Frill with AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and CYCLE 460 backs. It's not easy doing a T206 run of him.

Good Luck.


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tedzan 02-21-2022 06:01 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Post #64 in this thread illustrates my first T206 complete A - B - C - D sub-set......

In parallel with the T206 A - B - C - D runs, I was doing my NY Highlanders T205 runs. While in this process, I realized that American Lithographic
partially repeated the A - B - C - D connection in the T205 set.

From my experience working on these T205 runs, I gained an appreciation for certain printing patterns of the T205 cards. Examples of these are....

1st....is that American Lithographic printed exactly 32 subjects with the A - B - C - D connection.

2nd....the A - B - C - D cards and the AMERICAN BEAUTY (Green) cards are Mutually-Exclusive.

And....HINDU cards and DRUM cards are Mutually-Exclusive.


My Harry Wolter is one of the NY Highlanders printed in the A - B - C - D group. I believe this Wolter run is complete with 11 cards.
The HONEST LONG CUT back and the two HASSAN backs are "hiding" somewhere in my archives. I will post them when I find them.



V----------------------------------- AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection (A - B - C - D) -----------------------------------V
V
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...205WolterX.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...T205Wolter.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...205WolterX.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...xPdPBSvSCb.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Piedmont25.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...WolterT205.jpg



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DeanH3 02-21-2022 09:28 PM

Once upon a time I thought I was going to do multiple back runs. Then the surge and reality hit. LOL.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10126https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=16134
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=22710https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=22712
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=24426https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=24428
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28378https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=28376

MuncieNolePAZ 02-22-2022 06:05 AM

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Nice work Dean. Together we have 7 of the 12 with two EPDGs.

Chad

tedzan 02-22-2022 12:22 PM

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Time to participate in the Johnson club.

WOW ! all three of these T206 Johnson (portrait) cards are graded..... Ted has gone over to the "dark side" :)


PIEDMONT set

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohsonSGC40.jpg -------- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ackjohnson.jpg



SOVEREIGN set

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnsonPSA4.jpg ------- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...vereign350.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ereign350b.jpg




SWEET CAPORAL Factory #30 set

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...weetCap150.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...01wjohnson.jpg -------- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...02panel75x.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...sonxknight.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...sonxknight.jpg


Incidentally, guys feel free to post your Tobacco card runs, other than T206's.


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tedzan 02-22-2022 06:01 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
My favorite T205 run is Miller Huggins. As a lifetime Yankees fan, I admire how he managed the most powerful team in Baseball. And, he was able to accomplish this
because he had a keen sense of recognizing talent. Most notably by persuading Col. Jacob Ruppert (Yankees owner) to acquire Babe Ruth from Boston in 1919. And,
"The rest is history."


This display begins with the very rare PIEDMONT Factory #42

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Piedmont42.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...edmont42bx.jpg




V----------------- brown AMERICAN BEAUTY ----------------------------- BROAD LEAF ------------------------- CYCLE ------------------ DRUM (A - B - C - D)--------V
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ugginsT205.jpg . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Huggins25x.jpg
. . . . . . . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nsT205ABbx.jpg . . . . . . . . . . . . .https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...uggins25bx.jpg

I think this run is near complete. I need a DRUM back for Huggins. And since he was printed with the brown AMERICAN BEAUTY back, I expect his DRUM card will appear.




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ngCutT205b.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Piedmont25.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...iedmont25b.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SweetCap42.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...weetCap42b.jpg


Furthermore, besides the DRUM, I may also need a HASSAN Factory #649 to complete this run. I would
appreciate it....if anyone here has a Huggins with this back that I could purchase.


Incidentally, guys feel free to post your Tobacco card runs, other than T206's.


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DeanH3 02-22-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MuncieNolePAZ (Post 2199085)
Nice work Dean. Together we have 7 of the 12 with two EPDGs.

Chad

Nicely done Chad. Love that jumbo Piedmont. The only way I will ever complete a back run is by combining virtually with someone else. LOL!

Ronnie73 02-22-2022 11:56 PM

Being a T206 Front/Back collector is difficult, no matter what. But what was even more difficult was assembling a set of cards that shouldn’t have existed. I started searching in 2012 and found my first card on 4/10/2014. I managed to purchase most of the 28 card set during 2015-2016 when a decent amount of them were sold on eBay. Only 27 of the 28 cards turned up during that time period. I found my last card on 7/5/2017 and that was the Nap Lajoie card. I had a lot of fun completing this extremely difficult error subset that missed the scroll overprint that covered the Factory 30 and added the Factory 42 at the bottom of the card. These cards are sometimes referred to as “No Prints”.

http://www.myt206.com/net54/noprintset.jpg

MuncieNolePAZ 02-23-2022 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanH3 (Post 2199357)
Nicely done Chad. Love that jumbo Piedmont. The only way I will ever complete a back run is by combining virtually with someone else. LOL!

Thanks Dean! Sounds about right with the WaJo Portraits considering the difficulty of picking up the Old Mill and the rising prices.

Thanks for sharing your WaJos as well Ted and all of your other incredible contributions!

Chad

tedzan 02-23-2022 12:02 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
Continuing this T205 "running game" with John Lobert. Excuse the pun, but did you guys know that Lobert was one of the fastest runners in Baseball ?
Circa 1913, Lobert defeated Jim Thorpe in a 100-yard dash at the Polo Grounds.
Actually I put this run together for my wife....she is the Phillies fan in our family. The secret to having a wife appreciate your BB card hobby is that she,
too, has a collecting hobby which you appreciate (i.e....antique pottery and iridescent glassware, circa 1905 - 1920).

Just as the Huggins, Quinn and Wolter cards, the John Lobert card is also in the group of the A - B - C - D connection. And, like Huggins, Lobert's DRUM
card has not been confirmed. Furthermore, I have not seen Lobert with either of the HASSAN backs nor PIEDMONT #42. For now it appears that this run
is complete.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BLobert50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LLobert50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CYCLEx50xx.jpg
--http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BLobert50b.jpg----http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LLobert50b.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CYCLEx50bx.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ntSweetCap.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...tPolarBear.jpg
.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...tSweetCapB.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...PolarBearB.jpg




https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ongCutT205.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...vereign25x.jpg

.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...rtHonestLC.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ereign25xb.jpg


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Yoda 02-23-2022 12:20 PM

Ted, I am sure you have noticed that the T206 auction market has begun to notice what you brought to my attention, and I am sure others, on the board concerning the 'golden dozen' of short printed cards from the Piedmont 350/42. Did you discover this group, which wouldn't surprise me given your deep knowledge of the set? Could you list them again, pls. I have a nice Buck Herzog, which if I recall was on your original post. Tks.

tedzan 02-23-2022 06:45 PM

Tell us of your challenging experience(s) working on T206 runs
 
The T205 Jack Quinn is part of my NY Highlanders run project within the T205 group of 32 subjects printed with the A - B - C - D backs.


A - B - C - D connection............
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...BT205Quinn.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...kQuinnT205.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nnCycle25x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rDRUMx25bx.jpg
.https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...T205QuinnB.jpg - - - - - - - - - https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...QuinnT205b.jpg - - - - - - - http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nCycle25xb.jpg


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...torynum649.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...nt25QuinnX.jpg
- - - - - - - https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...rynum649bx.jpg - - - - - - - https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...t25QuinnXb.jpg
Factory #649



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eetCapT205.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...innT205HLC.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...etCapT205b.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...utLobertBx.jpg


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