OT: An all time line up just for fun, whos yours?
 

How about an all time batting order with a bench (15 players) of all time players, who would you pick and what would be your batting order? Remember its a team, you need to field a team and have back ups. Your the manager!

Here's my line up:

1 - Cobb - CF
2 - Eddie Collins 2B
3 - Ruth - RF
4 - Ted Williams - LF
5 - Gehrig - 1B
6 - Alex Rodriguez SS
7 - Mike Piazza C
8 - Mike Schmidt 3B

Bench:
Johnny Bench C
Rogers Hornsby 2b
Honus Wagner ss
Rickey Henderson OF
Barry Bonds OF
Willie Mays OF
Jimmie Foxx 1B

Heres mine
1 Ichiro rf
2 Rose 2b
3 Gerhig 1b
4 Schmidt 3b
5 Mays cf
6 Campenella c
7 Williams lf
8 O.Smith ss

Bench

Mantle of
Ruth of
J.Robinson inf
Banks inf
Bench c
Clemente of
Ripken inf

Mine. Not necessarily greatest, but dream game lineup for me to watch
1 J Robinson 2B
2 E Banks SS
3 T Williams LF
4 B Ruth DH
5 M Mantle CF
6 G Brett 3B
7 L Gehrig 1B
8 R Jackson RF
9 J Bench C
10 C Mathewson P

Here's mine (for a one game, life on the line team):

2B - Joe Morgan
OF - Ty Cobb
OF - Willie Mays
OF - Babe Ruth
1B - Lou Gehrig
SS - Honus Wagner
3B - Mike Schmidt
C - Johnny Bench
P - Walter Johnson

Bench

C - Ivan Rodriguez
1B - Willie McCovey
2B - Robby Alomar
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Pie Traynor
OF - Ted Williams
OF - Rickey Henderson
OF - Stan Musial
OF - Mickey Mantle

Bullpen

RP - Dick Radatz
RP - Bruce Sutter
RP - Dennis Eckersley
Closer - Mariano Rivera

1 - Oscar Charleston CF
2 - Ted Williams LF
3 - Babe Ruth RF
4 - Josh Gibson C
5 - Lou Gehrig 1B
6 - Rogers Hornsby 2B
7 - Honus Wagner SS
8 - Mike Schmidt 3B

If the pitcher also hits, give me Martin Dihigo. If not, Walter Johnson. If there's a DH, make it Ted Williams and give me Barry Bonds in left.

-Ryan

My starting lineup:

1. Lou Gehrig 1st base
2. Rogers Hornsby 2nd base
3. Honus Wagner shortstop
4. Mike Schmidt 3rd base
5. Johnny Bench catcher
6. Ted Williams leftfield
7. Willie Mays centerfield
8. Babe Ruth rightfield
9. Sandy Koufax starting pitcher

all time
 

I would really like to see how this lineup would handle modern pitching.

Cobb
Wagner
Ruth
Gehrig
Hornsby
Williams
Bench
Schmidt
Johnson

I would platoon Mays with Williams just because there's something wrong with an all time lineup without Willie Mays.

This is all about who I would want to see and not who is the best, no particular batting order.

J Jackson - OF
Musial - OF
Griffey - OF
Gehrig - 1b
J. Robinson - 2b
Wagner - ss
Brett - 3b
Gibson - C
Johnson - P

Cobb - OF
Ruth - OF
Banks - in
T. Williams - OF
B. Weaver - in
Mathewson - P

It seems a lot of us have similar lineups. Here's what my bench would look like:

1. Jimmie Foxx 1B
2. Jackie Robinson 2B
3. Derek Jeter SS
4. Brooks Robinson 3B
5. Yogi Berra C
6. Stan Musial LF
7. Ty Cobb CF
8. Hank Aaron RF
9. Walter Johnson SP

Not too bad for a bunch of backups, huh?

Mine
 

1b- Lou Gehrig
2b- Joe Morgan
3b- Mike Schmidt
SS- Honus Wagner
Rf- Babe Ruth
Cf- Willie Mays
Lf- Barry Bonds
C- Johnny Bench
Dh- Ted Williams
Sp- Walter Johnson
Rp- Mariano Rivera

Bench-
Ty Cobb
Rickey Henderson
Pete Rose

Hmm, no matter what I put down, I'm going to change my mind 5 minutes later.

1B Lou Gehrig
2B Rogers Hornsby
SS Honus Wagner
3B Mike Schmidt
LF Ted Williams
CF Willie Mays
RF Roberto Clemente
C Johnny Bench
DH Babe Ruth (hey, my team is in the National League. The Babe can eat some hot dogs while the team is on the field)

Bench
OF Stan Musial
OF Ken Griffey, Jr
OF Ty Cobb
1B Hank Aaron
IF Paul Molitor (can play third, second, shortstop or outfield)
C Yogi Berra

SP Sandy Koufax
SP Greg Maddux
SP Walter Johnson
SP Bob Gibson
SP Bob Feller
RP Mariano Rivera

No middle relievers needed with that rotation.

Here is mine

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r1kesqD...%3Dr1kesqDBXh0

1B Lou Gehrig
2B Pete Rose
SS Derek Jeter
3B Wade Boggs
OF Ted Williams
OF Babe Ruth
OF Ty Cobb
C Ivan Rodriguez
DH David Ortiz(:()
P Roger Clemens

Stepping out of the Pre-War Era...Here's my 15.
 

1. CF - Ty Cobb
2. SS - Honus Wagner
3. 2B - Rogers Hornsby
4. LF - Ted Williams
5. 1B - Lou Gehrig
6. RF - Babe Ruth
7. 3B - Mike Schmidt
8. C - Johnny Bench
9. P - Walter Johnson

P - Christy Mathewson
P - Satchel Paige
C - Josh Gibson (no offense to King Kelly)
IF - Napoleon Lajoie
OF - Oscar Charleston
OF - Joe Jackson
Manager - John McGraw

To those with Ruth on your bench...why?

C Roy Campanella
1B Lou Gehrig
2B Joe Morgan
SS Honus Wagner
3B Mike Schmidt
OF Ty Cobb
OF Babe Ruth
OF Willie Mays
P Cy Young

C Johnny Bench
2B Rogers Hornsby
OF Joe DiMaggio
OF Mickey Mantle
P Christy Mathewson
P Sandy Koufax
Mgr John McGraw

1.Wagner SS
2.Cobb CF
3.Gehrig 1B
4.Ruth RF
5.Gibson C
6.Williams LF
7.Schmidt 3B
8.Hornsby 2B
9.Johnson P

Chapman RP
Mays OF
Brett 3B/1B
J.Jackson OF
Biggio C/2B
Mays OF

Here's my 25 man roster:

Batting Order:

SS: Derek Jeter
2B: Rogers Hornsby
LF: Ted Williams
RF: Babe Ruth
1B: Lou Gehrig
C: Josh Gibson
CF: Willie Mays
3B: George Brett


Bench:

C: Yogi Berra
2B: Jackie Robinson
SS: Honus Wagner
OF: Ty Cobb
OF: Mickey Mantle
OF: Stan Musial
OF: Joe Dimaggio


SP: Sandy Koufax
SP: Pedro Martinez
SP: Randy Johnson
SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Christy Mathewson

Long Relief: Bob Gibson
Long Relief: Lefty Grove

RP: Mariano Rivera (Setup/Closer)
RP: Dennis Eckersley (Setup/Closer)
RP: Trevor Hoffman (Setup/Closer)

1. Cobb CF
2. Wagner SS
3. Gehrig 1B
4. Ruth RF
5. Campanella C
6. Williams LF
7. Brett 3B
8. Rose 2B
9. Johnson P

Cobb LF
Hornsby 2B
Gehrig 1B
Ruth RF
Gibson C
Williams DH
Schmidt 3B
Wagner SS
Mays CF

RHP Johnson
LHP Koufax
RP Rivera

Cobb CF
Hornsby 2B
Ruth Rf
Williams LF
Gehrig 1B
Wagner SS
Campanella C
B. Robinson 3B
W. Johnson P

Wow! Tough to leave so many favorites out of the starting lineup

1B Gehrig
2B Hornsby
3B Schmidt
SS Wagner
C Cochrane
LF Williams
CF Cobb
RF Ruth
P Johnson


BENCH
1B Foxx
inf Rose
SS Banks
C Bench
OF Aaron
OF Mays
OF Mantle
OF Joe Jackson
OF Greenberg (in minors waiting for call up)
P Young
Gibson
Mathewson
(4 pitchers all I need, if I need a reliever, I just bring Johnson back in)

I agree on Jeter over Wagner.

Can't believe how many would bat Ruth 8th or 9th.

-Ryan

LF: Rickey Henderson
2B: Rogers Hornsby
RF: Babe Ruth
1B: Gehrig
3B: Cabrera
SS: Wagner
CF: Mays
C: Bench
DH: Cobb

SPs: W. Johnson
C. Young
P. Martinez
G. Maddux
B. Gibson

Closer: Rivera

Bench: M. Mantle
T. WIlliams
S. Musial
B. Bonds
K. Griffey Jr.
Y. Berra

Bullpen: R. Johnson
N. Ryan
C. Mathewson
L. Grove

25 Man All Time Roster

Starting Lineup:

1.Pete Rose,2B (Righty)
2.Ty Cobb,RF (Lefty)
3.Willie Mays,CF (Righty)
4.Babe Ruth,DH (Lefty)
5.Mike Schmidt,3B (Righty)
6.Lou Gehrig,1B (Lefty)
7.Johnny Bench,C (Righty)
8.Ted Williams,LF (Lefty)
9.Honus Wagner,SS (Righty)

Reserves:

Josh Gibson
Jimmie Foxx
Rogers Hornsby
Derek Jeter
Hank Aaron
Mickey Mantle
Stan Musial
Roberto Clemente

Pitchers:

Sandy Koufax
Bob Gibson
Warren Spahn
Cy Young
Walter Johnson
Christy Mathewson
Satchel Paige
Mariano Rivera

Just to be clear, that's not my lineup. Just the players by position. I'm still trying to figure out how the lineup would be constructed. Maybe something like this:

1. Willie Mays R
2. Ted Williams L
3. Rogers Hornsby R
4. Babe Ruth L
5. Mike Schmidt R
6. Lou Gehrig L
7. Honus Wagner R
8. Roberto Clemente R
9. Johnny Bench R

LINEUP:

Honus Wagner, SS
Joe Morgan, 2B
Babe Ruth, RF
Lou Gehrig, 1B
Barry Bonds, LF *
Willie Mays, CF
Josh Gibson, C
Mike Schmidt, 3B
Walter Johnson, P

BENCH:

Johhny Bench, C
Albert Pujols, 1B
Jackie Robinson, 2B+3B
Cal Ripken, SS
Ty Cobb, OF
Oscar Charleston, OF
Ted Williams, OF

STARTERS:
Walter Johnson
Lefty Grove
Greg Maddux
Sandy Koufax
Roger Clemens *

BULLPEN:
Tom Seaver
Randy Johnson
Satchell Paige
Dennis Eckersley, Set-up
Mariano Rivera, Closer

COACHES:
Casey Stengel, Mgr
John Mcgraw
Earl Weaver
Tony LaRussa

* Both Bonds and Clemens were great players before using steroids, so I chose them on that basis alone.

Lou Gehrig-1B
Napolean Lajoie-2B

Lou Gehrig-1B
Napolean Lajoie-2B
Pop Lloyd-SS
George Brett-3B
Josh Gibson-C
Ed Delahanty-LF
Mickey Mantle-CF
Ty Cobb-RF

1 - Ty Cobb CF
2 - Ted Williams LF
3 - Babe Ruth RF
4 - Josh Gibson C
5 - Lou Gehrig 1B
6 - Rogers Hornsby 2B
7 - Honus Wagner SS
8 - George Brett 3B

9 - Walter Johnson P
Christy Mathewson P
Randy Johnson P
Greg Maddux P
Lefty Grove P

This is a fun topic, well done!

Wagner - ss
Cobb - cf
Aaron - rf
Musial - lf
Williams - dh
Gehrig - 1b
Brett - 3b
Cano - 2b
Bench - c

reserves

Ruth
Mays
Berra
Hornsby
Schmidt
Banks

Someone will always get left off a list like this one. A pitching rotation would be fun as well.

A five man rotation for me would be:

Koufax
Gibson
Feller
Ryan
Seaver

Obviously, my hope is that any lineup I set in fantasy, will be the greatest of all time on any given day. :D

These are always fun conversations. I prefer to list players that I saw perform in person more than once. I appreciate the past. My father raves about Feller, Doby, DiMaggio and Williams. My Grandfather had Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx and Johnson. Fortunately I had the honor to witness these guys, and would put this group up against the stars of any other generation. I truly believe they would consistently win as well. I'll leave Cobb, Hornsby, Gehrig, and Ruth to Bill James and the archeologists;)

Dh Rickey Henderson
2b Roberto Alomar
Rf Hank Aaron
Cf Ken Griffey Jr
3b Mike Schmidt
Lf Barry Bonds
1b Miguel Cabrerra
SS Cal Ripken Jr
C Johnny Bench

Reserves
Pudge Rodriguez
Derek Jeter
Joe Morgan
Roberto Clemente
Albert Puljos

Pitchers
Nolan Ryan
Greg Maddux
Tom Seaver
Pedro Martinez
Jim Palmer
Randy Johnson
Steve Carlton

Pen
Mariano Rivera
Dennis Eckersley
Aroldis Chapman

cf Cobb
ss Wagner
rf Ruth
1b Gehrig
c Bench
lf Williams
2b Lajoie
3b Brooks Robinson
p Walter Johnson

Mays
Mantle
Hornsby
Mathewson
Robinson
Campanella

This is the team I want to see, it may not be all the best players at each position, but these guys would interest me the most:

1- Hornsby 2B
2- DiMaggio CF
3- Ruth RF
4- Gehrig 1B
5- Mantle LF
6- Ted Williams DH
7- Schmidt 3B
8- Berra C
9- Jeter SS

Bench:
Campanella
Greenberg
Lazerri
B. Robinson
Mays
R. Henderson

Starters:
Koufax
Ford
Clemens
W. Johnson
Mathewson

Relivers:
Rivera
Gossage

Good idea. Okay let's do this.....


CF- Cobb
SS - Wagner
1B - Gehrig
RF - Ruth
C- J. Gibson
2B - Hornsby
LF - Aaron
3B - Schmidt

Bench:
Ted Williams
Willie Mays
Rose
Joe Jackson
George Brett
Goslin
Musial

Additional thoughts:
My sincere apologies to Mr, Aaron for batting him 7th.

Mike Schmidt's reaction to seeing the line-up card..."I guess that makes sense."

I wonder how Shoeless Joe would feel being on the bench while Josh Gibson, a black player, was starting. Goslin was from Jersey and probably would have been more comfortable with it. (I guess. He sounds like a fair man on the Glory of Their Times CD)

I sure hope Wagner is okay taking some pitches and I'm not screwing him up by batting him second. He was so used to clean up.

Was gonna leave off Hornsby because he always seems like kind of a dic* but his numbers make it tough to bypass him.

I need some more righties on the bench. Jackie R. may have to replace Musial.

Goslin I always viewed as an Eddie Murray type - when runs were there to be driven in, their focused intensified.


Fun stuff.

Here's Mine...
 

1. Honus Wagner SS
2. Rogers Hornsby 2B
3. Babe Ruth RF
4. Ted Williams LF
5. Lou Gehrig 1B
6. Willie Mays CF
7. Mike Schmidt 3B
8. Johnny Bench C

Some gloves up the middle who also happen to be great bats.

Pitchers (no closers needed with this staff)

1. Walter Johnson
2. Cy Young
3. Pedro Martinez
4. Warren Spahn
5. G.C. Alexander

Bench

Yogi Berra C
Alex Rodriguez SS
Ernie Banks Utility
Stan Musial OF
Frank Robinson OF
Joe Dimaggio OF
Lefty Grove P
Randy Johnson P

Tom C

I have to go with guys that I saw with my own eyes:

1. Rickey Henderson - LF
2. Tony Gwynn - RF
3. Ken Griffey Jr. - CF
4. Frank Thomas - 1B
5. Mike Schmidt - 3B
6. Johnny Bench - C
7. Ryne Sandberg - 2B
8. Ozzie Smith - SS

Bench:
1. George Brett - 3B
2. Robin Yount - SS, CF
3. Craig Biggio - C, CF, 2B
4. Rod Carew - 1B, 2B
5. Kirby Puckett - OF
6. Bo Jackson - LF, DH

I'm not listing any pitchers, but if I needed to win one game, I'd start Greg Maddux.

Here's mine:

Ty Cobb CF
Joe Jackson LF
Babe Ruth RF
Lou Gehrig 1B
Roberto Alomar 2B
Derek Jeter SS
Mike Schmidt 3B
Yogi Berra C
Christy Mathewson P

Bench:

Mickey Mantle
Rogers Hornsby
Buck Weaver
Joe Dimaggio
Walter Johnson
Mariano Rivera

I'll take my chances with this lineup over anyone...
 

Lineup
1. Barry Bonds (LF)
2. Joe Morgan (2B)
3. Willie Mays (CF) (Best player of All Time)
4. Babe Ruth (RF)
5. Josh Gibson (C)
6. Lou Gehrig (1B)
7. Ray Dandridge (3B)
8. Ozzie Smith (SS)
9. Satchel Paige (P)

Bench
Ted Williams
Joe Dimaggio
Mickey Mantle
Hank Aaron
Stan Musial
Rickey Henderson
Hank Aaron
Mel Ott

Rotation
Satchel Paige
Lefty Grove
Christy Mathewson
Juan Marichal
Sandy Koufax

Bullpen
Smokey Joe Williams
Carl Hubbell
Bob Gibson
Bob Feller

Bench Coaches
John McGraw, Casey Stengel

Announcers
Vin Scully, Russ Hodges, Jon Miller

Team Uniforms
1906 NY Giants "World Champions" home jerseys

Stadiums
Home: AT&T Park (San Francisco), Polo Grounds (New York)
Away: Wrigley Field (Chicago), Fenway (Boston), Yankee Stadium (New York), PNC Park (Pittsburgh)

Note: If Willie Mays is not in your lineup, your team is invalid... ha ha...

I don't understand the whole "lefty-righty-lefty-righty" lineup thing. It's a move designed to make the other manager potentially have to make decisions in later innings at the expense of having your optimal lineup in place. I just don't get it.

Tom C

p.s. Anyone who put Derek Jeter in place of Honus Wagner can eat my shorts.:eek:

I've been wondering about the Jeter thing as well. If you don't want Wagner because he's "too long ago", well that's up to you guys. But how does anyone take Jeter over Cal Ripken? :confused:

For me Jeter over Cal is easy. Nobody in the history of the game tries/plays harder day in and day out than Derek Jeter. This is coming from someone who used to hate watching him make those ugly spinning throws to 1st base that where no where close because he was trying too hard.

25 Man Roster - No Lineup
 

C - Yogi Berra
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby
SS - Honus Wagner
3B - Brooks Robinson
LF - Ted Williams
RF - Babe Ruth
CF - Willie Mays

SP - Sandy Koufax
SP - Bob Gibson
SP - Randy Johnson
SP - Nolan Ryan
SP - Walter Johnson

Bench

Mickey Mantle
Johnny Bench
Hank Aaron
Stan Musial
Cal Ripken
Mike Schmidt

Bullpen

Rollie Fingers
Bruce Sutter
Hoyt Wilhelm
Mariano Rivera
Lee Smith


This team MAY win a few games...:D

lol totally agree, jeter isn't even the best ss of the last 20 years let alone all time.

Really? Not saying Jeter is better than Wagner, but Jeter has 400 more lifetime hits than your buddy A-Roid, a 12 point higher career batting average, more Gold Gloves, and hasn't done steroids (I think). If A-Roid was such a great shortstop why has he been a 3rd Baseman for the last 10 years???

This would be my personal Dream Team with my favorites throughout history. The team would wear the 1908 Red Sox uniforms:

Starting Lineup
1. Ichiro Suzuki - OF
2. Dustin Pedroia - 2B
3. Keith Hernandez - 1B
4. Manny Ramirez - OF
5. Dave Kingman - DH
6. Jimmy Collins - 3B
7. Gary Carter – C
8. Harry Hooper - OF
9. Rick Burleson - SS

Rotation
Cy Young – SP
Babe Ruth – SP (Red Sox version)
Pedro Martinez – SP
Curt Schilling - SP
Eddie Cicotte – SP

Long Relievers
Charlie Hough – RP
Candy Cummings – RP

Closer
Hoyt Wilhelm – CL

Utility Men
Tommy McCarthy – OF, 2B, SS, 3B
King Kelly – C, OF, 3B, 2B, SS, 1B

Key Reserves
Tris Speaker - OF
Steve Balboni – 1B
Ross Barnes – 2B
Rob Deer - OF
Buddy Bell – 3B

Pinch Hitters
Rusty Staub – PH (when I need a hit)
Eddie Gaedel – PH (when I need a walk)

Manager
Jake Stahl

Reserves When 40 Man Roster is Effective
Jerry Remy – 2B
Hobe Ferris – 2B
Mike Squires – 1B
Bill Carrigan – C
Mickey Tettleton – C
David Ortiz – DH
Tim Wakefield – SP
“Smoky” Joe Wood – SP
“Old Hoss” Radbourne – SP
Jacoby Ellsbury – OF
Darryl Motley – OF
Pete Gray – OF
Coco Crisp – OF
Jose Cruz - OF
Toby Harrah – 3B

I picked Derek Jeter as my shortstop for one reason-he's a winner. He doesn't have to be the greatest shortstop in history to make my all-time team. At least that's the way I read the original post.

Rob Deer????!!!!!! ACCKKK!!!! (yeah... he could mash, though.)

Best Team of All Time
 

This is a fun topic, and I have been thinking about it for the last couple of days. Here is who I would run on the field vs. your squads...

Henderson Lf
Rose 3b
Aaron 1b
Ruth Rf
Speaker Cf
Lajoie 2b
Smith (Geo) ss
Berra C
Young SP
Doug Jones RP

Cobb cf
Hornsby 2b
Ruth lf
Gehrig 1b
J. Jackson rf
Wagner ss
Schmidt 3b
Piazza c

Mathewson
Johnson
Alexander
Spahn
Carlton

Rivera

LOL; my man Deer gives me some situational right handed power vs. lefties and late inning D if needed!!!

Ryan - WaJo was considered to be a very-good-hitting pitcher. In fact, he was frequently used as a pinch hitter when he wasn't pitching.
Val

All-Time "Banned From Baseball List" (Pre-the end of World War I):

Vernon Ayau SS
Bud Fowler 3B
Charlie Grant 2B
Jimmy Claxton 1B
Welday Walker OF
Merito Acosta OF
Jose Acosta OF
Fleet Walker C
Lang Akana P

A couple out of position, but understand Fowler played all over the field. Claxton played C/1B/RF in semi-pro baseball. Merito Acosta did play professional baseball but "retired" at age 22. Don't think Jose Acosta did anything but pitch but oh well, this is for fun.

Here's my 25 man roster:

Batting Order:

SS: Honus Wagner
LF: Ty Cobb
CF: Oscar Charleston
DH: Ted Williams
RF: Babe Ruth
1B: Lou Gehrig
C: Josh Gibson
3B: Wade Boggs
2B: Nap Lajoie

Bench:

C: Mike Piazza
2B: Rogers Hornsby
3B: Mike Schmidt
OF: Rickey Henderson
OF: Mickey Mantle
OF: Willie Mays


SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Pedro Martinez
SP: Randy Johnson
SP: Satchel Paige
SP: Lefty Grove

Long Relief: Christy Mathewson
Long Relief: Greg Maddux

RP: Dennis Eckersley (Setup)
RP: Billy Wagner (Setup)
RP: Mariano Rivera (Closer)

The hodgepodge of personalities would be wild. I'm sure Cobb would love to hear that he is moving to LF so Charleston can play center.

I kept Bonds, ARod and Clemens off because of roids. They otherwise should be included. Tough exclusions are J.Foxx as backup 1B, Pop Lloyd or Derek Jeter as backup SS, Tris Speaker or Griffey Jr. as another backup OF.

Fun idea. Here's my lineup:

1. Rickey Henderson LF
2. Willie Mays CF
3. Babe Ruth RF
4. Lou Gehrig 1B
5. Honus Wagner SS
6. Jackie Robinson 2B
7. Mike Schmidt 3B
8. Johnny Bench C
9. Walter Johnson RHP, Sandy Koufax LHP, Mariano Rivera closer
if we get a DH:
9. Ted Williams

My bench (4):

Hank Aaron, Stan Musial, Oscar Charleston, Josh Gibson.

A few are surprises, I guess, so I will explain:

Rickey Henderson: I want a leadoff hitter to get on base for the heavy lumber I have coming up next. Look at these on-base figures:

1980 AL .420 (3rd)
1981 AL .408 (3rd)
1982 AL .398 (3rd)
1983 AL .414 (2nd)
1984 AL .399 (3rd)
1985 AL .419 (4th)
1988 AL .394 (5th)
1989 AL .411 (3rd)
1990 AL .439 (1st)
1991 AL .400 (6th)
1992 AL .426 (2nd)**
1993 AL .432 (3rd)
1994 AL .411 (8th)
1995 AL .407 (10th)
1996 NL .410 (5th)
1999 NL .423 (7th)

in his prime, Henderson was as good as anyone at getting on base and a walk or single for Rickey was often a de facto double or triple for Rickey.

I put Robinson on the team for the same reason: he got on base a lot and drove pitchers and catchers crazy.

Why Koufax? I picked players for their peak performances, and Koufax at his best was a world-killer. Besides, speed kills; you can't hit what you can't see.

I did not put Cobb or Hornsby on the team. Great players, no questions there, but lousy teammates. I don't think Cobb could have stomached the blacks and Jews and Hispanics on the team, so why have him? Hornsby was so loathed as a player that he was traded twice in three seasons in his prime.

I left out all of the steroid-linked players, which kept Bonds and possibly Clemens off. I happen to believe that Bonds and Clemens are worthy of any alltime team except that I am convinced that they cheated, so the heck with them.

All Time line-up...just for fun

1B Salty Parker
2B Cookie Rojas
SS Rabbit Maranville
3B Pie Traynor
LF Ducky Medwick
CF Turkey Stearns
RF Darryl Strawberry (Pepper Martin on DL)
C Pickles Dilhofer
DH Ty Cobb

RHP Candy Cummings...Peaches Davis...Spud Chandler

LHP Karl Spooner...Carl 'Meal Ticket' Hubbell

CLOSER Goose Gossage

UTIL Frank Buttery

Top minor league prospect and September call-up: Ham Patterson

MGR Bob Lemon

PARK Coors Field...Busch Stadium...Tropicana Field

Here's my list (while on the "juice" of course):

1B Mark McGwire
2B Chuck Knoblauch
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Alex Rodriguez
C Ivan Rodriguez
OF Barry Bonds
OF Sammy Sosa
OF Gary Sheffield
P Roger Clemens

Pretty good Dan,
i would make one change though, i would put in Juan Gonzalez
instead of Shefield.

lol thought u were gonna say jeff kent instead of Knoblauch

And at DH: Mike Piazza

Because the Yankees were afraid of offending Jeter when they acquired A-Rod? C'mon, this isn't even a discussion. Jeter has a higher batting average but A-Rod has a higher OBP and has won a batting title. Jeter has 400 more hits but A-Rod has 400 more homers. Jeter has more Gold Gloves than A-Rod but didn't start winning any until A-Rod stopped playing short - and has consistently been ranked as the worst defensive shortstop in the majors, or among them, while A-Rod was a top-rated defensive shortstop.

If you wanna knock A-Rod for steroids, go ahead. If you wanna knock him for being a douche, go ahead. But if we go by just what each guy did on the field as a shortstop, there is no way, no how, that Jeter was a superior shortstop compared to Alex. None.

I will give you the defense. There is no way Arod is even close to the same level as Jeter on offense. In the top of the 8th inning with a 6 run lead there is no better hitter than Arod. The guy would hit moon shot homers in that situation. Get a bottom of the 9th with a runner on 2nd with 2 outs in a tie game and Arod could not hit water if he fell out of a boat. In that same bottom of the 9th situation Jeter gets the game winning hit. To me it matters when all that offense actually happens.:D

Late and close, ARod and Jeter have basically the same stats. 9th inning, Arod is better than Jeter.

Try again.

CF Willie Mays
LF Ted Williams
2B Rogers Hornsby
RF Babe Ruth
1B Lou Gehrig
3B Mike Schmidt
SS Honus Wagner
C Josh Gibson
P Walter Johnson

I'd choose Mays over Cobb because although Cobb was a marginally better hitter, he was only average in the field, while Mays was superior. That more than makes up the difference.