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Mark 04-11-2020 11:28 AM

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1933-34 Ernie Smith Hillerich & Bradsby Game Used Bat

Smith hit .314 in 647 games with the Millers over five years! He scored 108 runs and drove in 111 in helping the Millers to the 1932 pennant.

Is Ernie Smith new? How many more do you need for a COMPLETE set of Millers?

Tay1038 04-11-2020 11:46 AM

I have had the Smith for a little while, but wanted to post a dedication to it. I only have 8 bats from the team. Still missing quite a few regulars - Art Ruble, Joe Mowry, Harry Rice, Wes Griffin, Eddie Sicking, & Ray Fitzgerald.

Doglips57 04-19-2020 03:47 PM

These are kinda rough
 
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I found these in the yard at a garage sale a few years ago, the kids had been playing with them.Attachment 395297

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Tay1038 04-21-2020 07:30 AM

Hi Steve, very neat bats and thanks for sharing! Both bats are circa 1952-55. They look professional model. If you would like, send me the dimensions and model number of the Rigney and I can compare it to the one I own.

Tay1038 06-07-2020 07:29 PM

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Original 1920 St. Paul Saints Baseball Club 14x20 Team Photograph – American Association Champions!

This Original Baker Art Gallery photograph was previously owned by Saints P Steamboat Williams. The 1920 Saints were recognized as being the 6th Greatest Minor League Team of All-Time! They finished the season with 115 Wins, 49 losses and captured the American Association Championship.

Top Row: Rapp, McMenemy, Shanley, Haas, Miller, Duncan
Middle Row: E. Hargrave, Merritt, Hall, Griner, Williams, Riggert, W. Hargrave
Bottom Row: W Dressen, Berghammer, M.J. Kelley, Foster, Browne, Boone

Local antique shop find today. As I started to disassemble the frame I found another piece of paper tucked behind the cardboard mat. To my surprise it was an original Montana Public Schools Diploma certificate signed and dated 22 April 1905. The diploma was issued to Rees Williams. Rees “Steamboat” Williams won 20 games for the Saints in 1920! He played for the St. Paul Saints in 1915, 1917, 1920-21 and played for the St. Louis Cardinals in 1914 & 1916. Extremely excited to trace the origins of the photo!

Tay1038 06-10-2020 11:32 AM

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Original 1903 St. Paul Saints Baseball Club 11x14 Team Photograph featuring HOFer Miller Huggins - Very 1st American Association Championship!

Back Row: Wheller, Shannon, Corbett, Chech, Hurley, Ferguson, Geier
Middle Row: Sullivan, Kelley, Schaefer, Davis
Front Row: Pierce, Huggins, Volz, Marcan, Jackson

There is an amazing story behind this photo. In 1947, the Saints ran a contest at Lexington Park which provided fans the special opportunity to correctly guess all members of the Saints very first championship team. The winner was handsomely rewarded with this photograph as the prize!

It is believed this photo is original to 1903. These photos were only given to players and management of the team. Mike Kelley was the team manager/player for the 1903 team. The photo has sepia, and done in flat tones. The image is high quality and has strong and clear silvering, which I was told is indicative to a turn of the century photo. Photo attribution is to Harris of Little Rock, Arkansas and copyrighted by the St. Paul Daily News. The St. Paul Daily News ceased publication in 1938.

There are two vintage news clippings on the back of the matt. The first is the player identification roster and the second is the write up about the contest. The article mentions, “The picture belongs to Mike” referring to current team owner Mike Kelley.

Mark 06-10-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tay1038 (Post 1988877)
Original 1903 St. Paul Saints Baseball Club 11x14 Team Photograph featuring HOFer Miller Huggins - Very 1st American Association Championship!

Back Row: Wheller, Shannon, Corbett, Chech, Hurley, Ferguson, Geier
Middle Row: Sullivan, Kelley, Schaefer, Davis
Front Row: Pierce, Huggins, Volz, Marcan, Jackson

There is an amazing story behind this photo. In 1947, the Saints ran a contest at Lexington Park which provided fans the special opportunity to correctly guess all members of the Saints very first championship team. The winner was handsomely rewarded with this photograph as the prize!

It is believed this photo is original to 1903. These photos were only given to players and management of the team. Mike Kelley was the team manager/player for the 1903 team. The photo has sepia, and done in flat tones. The image is high quality and has strong and clear silvering, which I was told is indicative to a turn of the century photo. Photo attribution is to Harris of Little Rock, Arkansas and copyrighted by the St. Paul Daily News. The St. Paul Daily News ceased publication in 1938.

There are two vintage news clippings on the back of the matt. The first is the player identification roster and the second is the write up about the contest. The article mentions, “The picture belongs to Mike” referring to current team owner Mike Kelley.

That's beautiful. And it's in the right hands, because you may be the only person who could have named the team members off the top of your head!

Tay1038 07-05-2020 06:44 PM

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1877 Minneapolis Brown Stockings vs. Janesville Mutuals Baseball Scorecard – The Origins of Professional Baseball in Minnesota (1875-1877)

Here we have a remarkable scorecard dating to the earliest years of organized baseball in Minnesota that I recently acquired. The scorecard measures 4.5 x 5.5. I was told this scorecard was used in the Ken Burns Baseball documentary.

Minneapolis known as the White Shirts in 1875, Blue Stockings in 1876. By the spring of 1877, Minneapolis appeared in upgraded fine white uniforms, brown stockings and belts, and different colored caps for each position. Because of their new stockings the team would now be known as the Brown Stockings.

The Brown Stockings, much like their nearby river rival the St. Paul Red Caps joined the League Alliance in 1877 after a decade of purely amateur teams drifting through various spots in south Minneapolis. The League Alliance was the first semi-affiliated minor league baseball league. Proposed by Al Spalding on January 15, 1877. Independent baseball teams were to affiliate with National League teams, which would honor their respective contracts. The league only existed for one season, 1877, though another version was attempted in 1882. The League Alliance, a loose association of 13 clubs from the Midwest and East and featured clubs from Syracuse, Memphis, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Chicago, Fall River and Lowell, Massachusetts.

The 1877 Minneapolis Browns rostered some of the earliest players to play at the highest level of Major League Baseball:

Mike Brannock - Chicago White Stockings (1871, 1875)

Dory Dean - Cincinnati Reds (1876)

Charlie Eden - Chicago White Stockings (1877)

Bill Gleason - St. Louis Brown Stockings (1882-87), Philadelphia Athletics (1888), Louisville Colonels (1889), 1886 World Series Champion

Jack Gleason - St. Louis Brown Stockings (1877, 1882-83), Louisville Eclipse (1883), St. Louis Maroons (1884-85), Philadelphia Athletics (1886)

Sonny Hoffman - Cleveland Blues (1879)

Dan O’Leary - Providence Grays (1879), Boston Red Stockings (1880), Detroit Wolves (1881), Worcester Ruby Legs (1882), Cincinnati Outlaw Reds (1884)

Bill Phillips - Cleveland Blues (1879-84), Brooklyn Grays (1885-87), Kansas City Cowboys (1888)

whitehse 07-05-2020 10:26 PM

Very cool!

I live about a half hour from Janesville, Wi and am there quite often. I think it is awesome to find local "stuff" such as this.

Duluth Eskimo 07-06-2020 10:07 PM

Awesome pick up Taylor

Tay1038 07-13-2020 01:28 PM

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1965-68 Ozzie Virgil Sr. Hillerich & Bradsby Game Used Bat

Virgil made his minor league debut in 1953 in St. Cloud, Minnesota in the Northern League. After spending the 1956 season with the Minneapolis Millers, Virgil made his major league debut that fall for the New York Giants.

On September 23, 1956, Virgil became the first player from the Dominican Republic to play Major League Baseball. On June 6, 1958 he became the first black ballplayer for the Detroit Tigers, who were among the last teams to break the racial barrier.

The Minneapolis Millers had four players to break the MLB color barriers - Monte Irvin (NYG), Hank Thompson (STLB), Ozzie Virgil (DET) and Pumpsie Green (BOS)

CooperstownExpert 07-15-2020 06:25 PM

Pee Wee Wanningers contract the year Gehrig pinch hit for him to begin the streak
 
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Pee Wee Wanninger played 6 years for St. Paul. He's an interesting footnote to the two longest consecutive games played streaks behind Ripken.

Cal Ripken holds the all-time record for consecutive games played with 2,632. Second on the list is Lou Gehrig with 2,130; third is Everett Scott with 1,307. Pee Wee Wanninger is tied to both men directly behind Ripken.

In the 1925 season a 32-year old Scott was slipping at shortstop and at the plate. When Yankee manager Miller Huggins saw fit to bench Scott and end the streak, he turned to the rookie Wanninger. On May 5th, 1925 Wanninger started in place of Scott to end what is still the third longest run in MLB history.

Four weeks later Huggins called on 22-year old Lou Gehrig to pinch hit for Wanninger in what would be the start of Gehrig’s own streak.

Here is Wanninger’s player’s contract for the 1925 season in which he helped stop and start two of baseball’s most prolific consecutive games streaks. The front page is also signed by Hall of Fame executive Ban Johnson.

Each of the names that have link that directs to their pages on my website. It's got autographs of all but three Hall of Famers who debuted in the big leagues since 1900. There are also almost 300 other pages with autographs of guys not in Cooperstown. Thanks for looking.

I hope everyone stays healthy,.

Tay1038 07-15-2020 10:00 PM

Awesome artifact, Jim! Just another great connection to St. Paul. Thanks for sharing!

etsmith 07-23-2020 05:33 AM

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Saw this on Ebay and thought it was interesting. A St. Paul Saints vs Indianapolis Indians program from 1929. Both teams had a ton of major league talent and the ads are almost as interesting.
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Tay1038 07-24-2020 09:17 PM

Thank you so much for the tip! I do already have a 1929 program in my collection. Can you believe the Saints won 102 games in 1929 and finished 2nd in the American Association to the Kansas City Blues who won 111 games that season!

Tay1038 07-24-2020 09:40 PM

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1953 Minneapolis Millers Home Game Used Jersey

Tay1038 11-08-2020 05:01 PM

100k views, thank you everyone for your interest and support!

Taylor

Tay1038 12-10-2020 09:57 PM

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1925 St. Paul Baseball Club Stock Certificate - Issued to and Signed by Miller J. Huggins.

On January 1, 1925, the St. Paul Saints of the American Association had been sold to Bob Connery, longtime New York Yankees scout. This started a close relationship between the two teams which included a regular shuttle of players between the Saints and Yankees. What was not known at the time was that Yankees manager Miller Huggins was a part-owner of the Saints, as well. After Connery bought the Saints, his statements on his new club’s ownership and relationship with the Yankees were a mystery. He refused to name his partners; there were rumors he was one of three

There was no formal or ownership connection between the two teams, however because of the Yankee-Saints connection, many Yankees players spent time in St. Paul including: George Halas, Lefty Gomez, and thirteen members of the 1927 Yankees: Mark Koenig, Bob Meusel, Walter Beall, Cedric Durst, Pat Collins, Joe Giard, Johnny Grabowski, Ray Morehart, Wilcy Moore, Ben Paschal, George Pipgras, Myles Thomas, Julie Wera.

Extremely happy to finally add one of these to my collection. The stock certificate is for 33 shares of $100 each. That would be equivalent to $49k today.

Tay1038 01-20-2021 04:37 PM

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1936-37 Leo Durocher Hillerich & Bradsby Game Used & Autographed Bat

His competitiveness, passion, ego, and facility for remembering situations is hard to mistake. Shortly after his Major League Debut in 1925 with the New York Yankees, Durocher played shortstop for the 1927 St. Paul Saints during the Connery/Huggins ownership era before winning his first World Series ring the following season with the ’28 Yankees.

I realized through the years of collecting Millers/Saints bats, that finding a Durocher gamer would prove to be monumental task and more so wishful thinking. Well, I'm exceedingly happy to land one of his gamers from his player career for the good old collection. I put this gamer right up there with my Monte Irvin gamer as the one of the most scarce bats in my collection.

71buc 01-20-2021 05:41 PM

Incredible bat!

Mark 01-20-2021 05:46 PM

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1936-37 Leo Durocher Hillerich & Bradsby Game Used & Autographed Bat

His competitiveness, passion, ego, and facility for remembering situations is hard to mistake. Shortly after his Major League Debut in 1925 with the New York Yankees, Durocher played shortstop for the 1927 St. Paul Saints during the Connery/Huggins ownership era before winning his first World Series ring the following season with the ’28 Yankees.

I realized through the years of collecting Millers/Saints bats, that finding a Durocher gamer would prove to be monumental task and more so wishful thinking. Well, I'm exceedingly happy to land one of his gamers from his player career for the good old collection. I put this gamer right up there with my Monte Irvin gamer as the one of the most scarce bats in my collection.

Beauty! I don't remember when (if) I've seen one. Congratulations.

Shoeless Moe 05-19-2021 12:41 PM

1906 - 1913 Minneapolis Millers / Boston Red Sox Scorebook
 
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.....also includes some guy named Ruth and many 1915-1919 Red Sox Games

featuring one pitching matchup of Babe Ruth vs Walter Johnson, not a bad summer afternoon matchup.

Not sure what the Minneapolis & Boston connection is, a scorekeeper who finally got The Call, or a Reporter who was re-assigned/relocated or a fan who followed both teams. Maybe I'll find something going through the pages, maybe not.

I love a good mystery......as you know.

Shoeless Moe 05-19-2021 01:30 PM

Taylor, apologies for posting in your thread. I think there may be another Millers thread, but I may have picked the wrong one.

While I have you are you aware of any significant ball players or games the Millers had from 1906 -1913, or for that matter St Paul, Toledo and any other teams in their division?

If so I'd like to check this scorebook for them/it.


Thank you.

Tay1038 05-20-2021 09:33 PM

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Hi Paul,

That is a great looking scorebook. Is there a handwritten name anywhere that could pinpoint the owner maybe(?). The scorecard results pictured from the Minneapolis v Toldeo game from May 5, 1906 is accurate. Historical records show that the game was played on Sunday and the Millers won 2-1. The game was played at Minnehaha Driving Park. I wasn’t aware of that until now. And actually, I learned something even better. The Minnehaha Driving Park is located right outside my back door!!!? I’m not kidding!! The park was located off Hiawatha and 36th in Minneapolis. My god! My jaw just dropped and I have chills. I would love to own that card and frame it in my home. I have lived here for 10 years and until tonight never knew that!

May 10, 1911 – Otis Clymer hits in his 28th straight game, breaking the "world" record for hitting, according to the Minneapolis Tribune, before being ejected by Umpire Charles Ferguson.

Baseball HOFers that played for the Millers during 1906-1913 include: Jimmy Collins (1909), Red Faber (1911-12), Rube Waddell (1911-12).

Gavvy Cravath played for the Millers (1909-11). he led the National League in home runs six times and was one of the sport's most prolific power hitters of the dead-ball era

Shoeless Moe 05-21-2021 06:57 PM

Taylor, good stuff......hey there is a name on the inside front cover:

Norman P. Johnson

I like the name of the St. Paul team from 1906, the St. Paul Apostles soon to become the Saints.

Also, there is a 1906 game in the book between Indianapolis & Minneapolis, Eddie Cicotte was on the Indians roster, however does not appeared to have pitched this particular game. But Eddie was once in your Minnehaha Park, so that is pretty cool.

There is a 1908 game between Indy & Minnie with future HOFer Rube Marquard pitching and batting 9th. In this game, scored in this book, vs. the Millers he pitched a 2-hit shutout, w/11 K's. So he was showing his stuff that day. Later that summer he would make his first Big League appearance with the NY Giants pitching in only 1 game and going 0-1 for the season. Thus starting his big league career.

There is a 1911 game with Frank Delahanty (Ed's brother) batting 3rd for the Apostles. And a 1913 game with Frank now joining brother Jim in the Millers lineup batting 3rd & 4th. Delahanty brothers must have had some deadball pop.

Then comes 8 Red Sox games from 1915-1919.

Then a Harvard - Yale game no date, guessing 1919 or 1920 since it's after the 1919 Red Sox games.

But definitely looks to be Norman P. Johnson's scorebook as his name is listed a few times on the front & back inside covers.

Whoever he is? Any idea? Must be related to the Millers somehow.

Tay1038 07-17-2021 12:46 PM

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c.1922 Gavvy Cravath Hillerich & Bradsby Game Used Bat

In Minneapolis, Cravath learned to hit to the opposite field to take advantage of the short (279 ft) right-field line at Nicollet Park. That ability would also serve him well with the Phillies, who had a similar short right-field porch only 272 feet from home plate at the Baker Bowl. The 1910–11 Millers were one of the great minor league teams of all time, and Cravath was their biggest star. In 1910 he led the league in batting average (.326), hits (200), home runs (14), doubles (41), and triples (13). In 1911 he again led the league in the same categories except for triples, with an average of .363, 221 hits, 53 doubles, 13 triples, and 29 home runs.

Tay1038 07-17-2021 12:53 PM

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1925-28 Johnny Neun Hillerich & Bradsby Game Used Bat

Neun entered baseball immortality on May 31, 1927 against the Cleveland Indians, when he caught a line drive from Homer Summa, stepped on first to retire Charlie Jamieson, and despite shouts from his shortstop to throw him the ball, raced towards second base to retire Glenn Myatt, completing the seventh unassisted triple play in MLB history, and the first such play to end a game. He won the American Association Silver Slugger Batting Championship in 1924 for the St. Paul Saints

tjflight207 03-10-2024 08:32 PM

Any Billy Klaus items? He was my Great Uncle


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