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You met Greg (lowpopper) with your uncle at Greg's booth. Had a brief discussion with him. You also happened to see him in the line waiting to get ice cream but he did not see you and you happened to hear him talking about a card, which you assumed was the Mantle. You wanted to contact Greg about the missing Mantle and just happened to find this website and this post. Wouldn't it have been easier to find Greg directly since you and your uncle must have had his contact info? Greg did not see the card get stolen, from what I understand (though Greg has been brief), but you know who took it and you are accusing Earl Johnson (Mr. Earl John Son of Cleveland), who he was with, of being that person who took it? |
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Did I miss the part where she said she actually saw Earl take the card? As Peter wrote, it was a tough read.
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?????????missing mantle
Earl Johnson is no longer working for SGC because he got another job with another company right at the time of their move to Florida, and he did NOTHING unethical that caused his dismissal..
As far as I am concerned, Earl has always been a very fine & decent person...pretty hard to believe he is capable of doing something as was being represented in this thread, and because these are serious statements that are now being made public, these discussions should tread carefully. |
Following up on what Larry said, to C Vader, what's the basis for your accusation?
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I could be wrong but there's something off about this whole thread. |
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FYI-Earl wasn't offered a position in Florida. And I have no doubt he stole the card.
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If you read my previous posts, I have only stated the facts of the unfortunate scenario. It sounds like something out of a B movie and it angers me to think somebody got me with my guard down.
The Mantle was passed around at the ice cream stand. We all parted ways without me saying “WHERE IS MY EFFING CARD”. Moments later, I am minus 1 mantle rookie. These are the FACTS of what happened. I will not offer any specific “opinions” about this issue publicly on this forum. It is unfortunate this had to happen. All I can say to everyone who reads this is to learn from my mistake. Make sure you are spatially aware of your items at all times. They can and will spontaneously grow legs. As for the Vader character, I reached out to her on a direct message and got no reply. With all the clowning that goes on through this forum, I would not be surprised if it was someone sitting behind a keyboard having some fun at my expense. I salute you, troll. This is Greg, signing off. Everybody just keep an eye out for my card. That’s all I ask. Have a good weekend. |
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I assume you have reached out to, Leon, as I would assume he has a lot more of her info on her whereabouts? Phone number, etc. |
Lprodeline appears to have worked for SGC Authentic, judging by this and another post.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...00&postcount=2 Weirder and weirder, to paraphrase Alice. |
And it just got weirder. So two women have now come on this thread (assuming C Vader is who she says she is) to accuse Earl. One who worked for or works for SGC Authentic supposedly and one who though she claims to be from Florida where Earl never worked somehow knew who he was and that he had worked for SGC.
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Hope you filed a police report on the spot
They likely would have spoken to the last 3 people (Greg, partner and Earl??) to hold the card. If not already done, probably still worth doing. Police have ways of making people talk.
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Wow, that us terrible. I guess the proof would be when someone offers it for sale, via text on their cell phone or otherwise, or its subbed for grading.
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Getting back to the thread about tracking expensive cards, couldn't PSA make a special outer holder that could only be removed by the dealer? Kind of like the tags they put on clothes or games at Target.
Only authorized dealers would have the tool to open it and likely only use it on real high end cards. Try and crack it without it and die would ruin it. Just a thought |
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I have information from a credible source that Earl didn't take this card and this Lisa person has a grudge against him from years ago. And my source says SGC did in fact offer Earl a job but he couldn't take it due to personal matters. I confirmed Earl is in good standing with SGC. |
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How terrible it is that someone's name can be dragged through the mud by a drive by poster like Earl's name has.
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Hey, there is a place on one site where my name is next to a quote saying I am saying it's ok to steal as long as you don't get caught LOL. For the record, I don't and have never believed that., :) But it is out there as I am saying it. What can you do? |
IMO Greg continuing to be cryptic is part of the problem. If Earl wasn't there, or if he doesn't think Earl is culpable, he should say so.
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I could be wrong, but my gut says the problem is not with Earl, it's with the unidentified third guy. Now why two (apparent) women have jumped on this thread to accuse Earl, I haven't figured out.
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All time lows ugh
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I am no profiler but I do not believe for a minute that C. Vader is female. I also am not sure I believe a 51 Mantle was actually stolen or is even missing. Something is just not sitting right with me and I hope I am wrong. What I do know is that Earl has obviously pissed off some people out there that they would come on here and accuse him of theft and the person whose card was allegedly stolen is not denying these "women's" claims. Honestly this feels pretty irresponsible from my vantage point. |
And Vader overhears Greg and her step-uncle talking about stickering the uncle's Mantle 4.5, and then by some coincidence the same card (in a 4) ends up being the one stolen from Greg? Something is BS here.
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RE???????????missing Mantle
I usually do not post more than once in a while but this thread is particularly alarming...first...SGC Lisa is wrong, Earl could have gone to Florida but opted to go to work for the card company that actually bought/buys large quantities of cards on the road(roadshow). I spoke to SGC and it was a mutual business decision with NO underhanded issues. second, even if there was an issue, no one should have his reputation put through the mud without a police report or some kind of documented legal proof, it is very wrong to accuse someone through a forum by this method of accusation and if the card of that value was stolen, a police report should have been issued anyway!
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I don’t know why ppl are doubting that C Vader is a female. She describes herself and says that she met Greg. Greg never contradicted any of her posts. She just happened to be a witness to the ice cream stand incident. I’m not saying Earl stole the card. She just saw the event right before the theft happened. Maybe Earl passed the card to someone else who gave it to another person who took the card.
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Paint historian raises a great point/question.
Greg,
Did you/when did you file a police report? |
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reply. With all the clowning that goes on through this forum, I would not be surprised if it was someone sitting behind a keyboard having some fun at my expense. I salute you, troll." |
In post 44 of this thread, Greg said that he agreed with C Vader’s summary of the event. She was the first person to describe that event happening so she could not have made it up and probably was there.
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Umm, where is Greg to answer these questions? He’s been signed on the last two days. I call BS!
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far more questions than answers so far
Who else was at the ice cream stand with Greg and Earl?
Did Greg file a police report? Who is C Vader and what was the motive for his/her post? Why does Lisa Prodeline have a grudge against Earl to the point where she would lie about his employment and accuse him of stealing a card? Why is Greg being so evasive? Was this card, in fact, stolen? |
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