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D. Bergin 10-17-2016 09:51 AM

Glad to see these changes taking place. Would be nice to see Ebay implementing this into their software sitewide, instead of just handholding a single big seller with concerns and forgetting about the rest of their site.

Exhibitman 10-17-2016 11:49 AM

The answer is simple, folks, and doesn't require a lot of hand-wringing: if you really feel that PWCC is giving fraudsters an open ticket for the next several months, boycott PWCC auctions until the company moves to a policy position that makes you comfortable, and email PWCC and let them know you are boycotting them for that reason. If you are OK with as many as ten retractions but not 25, don't do business with PWCC until January 2017. If you think that the number should be 1 or 2 in six months, don't do business with them again until they move to that policy. Either way, let them know and stick to your decision.

It occurs to me that we've had this discussion repeatedly, whether it is over the criminal fraud of Mastro/Legendary, the seedy criminal backgrounds of some dealers and AH owners, the dodgy behavior of certain sellers, eBay shilling (Broadway Rick), market manipulation, etc. If you don't like someone or if you don't like the way they run their business, stop working with them. Our hobby is a business, so hit them where it really hurts: their wallets. If you are going to hold your nose and participate because stuff trumps all, then stop whining about the unfairness of the system in which you are participating. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Please note that I'm not saying boycott PWCC and I am not saying don't. Make your own decision. Just don't take the moral outrage position and then bid in PWCC auctions anyway.

seinbigd 10-18-2016 08:52 AM

Good Job!
 
Brent and Betsy,

Thanks for your efforts here. While no policy will satisfy everyone this is a great start. I look forward to participating in your future auctions.

Steve

PhillipAbbott79 11-08-2016 12:29 PM

Batter up.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d..._None_ViewLink

We should have a contest to see who can find the most.

1952boyntoncollector 11-08-2016 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seinbigd (Post 1594623)
Brent and Betsy,

Thanks for your efforts here. While no policy will satisfy everyone this is a great start. I look forward to participating in your future auctions.

Steve

Whats Probsteins position...

Zach Wheat 11-09-2016 07:22 AM

Bravo
 
Bravo...would welcome the changes.

Z

Leon 11-11-2016 11:39 AM

bidders exclusivity with sellers....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1600620)
Batter up.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d..._None_ViewLink

We should have a contest to see who can find the most.

In looking at many of the bidders stats it seems a lot of bidders bid a high percentage with PWCC. And I am not saying this in any kind of negative way. Maybe there are collectors who bid almost exclusively with certain sellers? As a prolific ebay bidder, and a person that is all over the map :), it is hard for me to imagine but oh well..

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...p2047675.l2565

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ajjohnsonsoxfan 11-11-2016 12:30 PM

They can bid all day long with PWCC and only with PWCC for all I care as long as they pay for everything they win with zero retractions!

Peter_Spaeth 12-04-2016 08:28 AM

I hope PWCC quickly moves to a lower number of acceptable retractions. Seeing someone like this as high bidder just does not inspire confidence.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d..._None_ViewLink

Exhibitman 12-04-2016 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1601371)
In looking at many of the bidders stats it seems a lot of bidders bid a high percentage with PWCC. And I am not saying this in any kind of negative way. Maybe there are collectors who bid almost exclusively with certain sellers? As a prolific ebay bidder, and a person that is all over the map :), it is hard for me to imagine but oh well..


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I kind of get it. After having had to chase after several refunds in recent months I can understand making a specific effort to bid in auctions run by trustworthy sellers. I "follow" several sellers with my eBay feed because they are honest, trustworthy sellers who present items that interest me and deliver on their auctions. I don't do all of my bidding with them but definitely do a substantial part of it.

VoodooChild 12-04-2016 11:46 AM

Every month they offer thousands of lots with everything from the 19th century to the present in all sports. They combine shipping for the entire length of the auction meaning you don't have to pay until it's completely over. Shipping is cheap, fast, and packed securely. You know when each lot closes and don't have to stay up all night as you do with the major auction houses.

Yes, I do understand that the eBay format makes their system ripe for shilling/fraud, but I do see why busy collectors would be loyal customers and willing to pay more based on the reasons I stated.

I am both a PWCC buyer and consigner. I do not shill but do appreciate the steps they are taking to try and clean up the system.

irv 12-04-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1607536)
I hope PWCC quickly moves to a lower number of acceptable retractions. Seeing someone like this as high bidder just does not inspire confidence.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d..._None_ViewLink

66% of his/her bids with PWCC too. I am happy PWCC is doing/trying to do something, but that 25 bid retraction ceiling is way too high, imo.


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