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ooo-ribay 02-13-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 1241151)
I think he was eaten by a goat. ;)

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19ct.../ku-medium.gif

that was fun.....let's get back to pins.

MK 02-13-2014 04:46 PM

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I can do that

ValKehl 02-13-2014 08:40 PM

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A couple of my favorite players - one post-War and one pre-War.

ooo-ribay 02-13-2014 08:47 PM

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love the crossed bats, MK.

A few NY Giants pins. Nothing spectacular. A few on the left side may even be NY Giants football :confused:

Scott Garner 02-14-2014 05:32 PM

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Rob,
Thanks for pumping some life into this thread!

As I result, Al reached out to me and offered up this duplicate Gaylord Perry PM-10 pinback this evening so I filled a hole in my collection. :cool:[/QUOTE]

As follow up to my earlier post:
I received this Gaylord Perry pinback from Al today. It looks terrific.
For those of you who haven't dealt with Al before, I will tell you that he's terrific. ;)

BTW, this is the second pinback that I've purchased from him and I'm really pleased with both of them.... Thanks Al!

batsballsbases 02-14-2014 05:46 PM

Perry
 
Thanks Scott for the kind Words! Glad you could use them and fill a hole in the collection! Always a pleasure when dealing with Scott!

vintagesportflips 02-14-2014 06:07 PM

Eagles Pin Collection
 
Incredible pins everyone - I especially love the Cubs collection shown.
Here is a shot of my Eagles pin collection. Sorry to mix in some football :)
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps5f5dbe1e.jpg

ooo-ribay 02-14-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by batsballsbases (Post 1241654)
Thanks Scott for the kind Words! Glad you could use them and fill a hole in the collection! Always a pleasure when dealing with Scott!

How come you'll sell to Scott but not to me?? :eek:

j/k

batsballsbases 02-14-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1241727)
How come you'll sell to Scott but not to me?? :eek:

j/k

Your to new here! And you must have at least 500 posts in order for me to even consider selling you a piece to help your collection!:D:D LOL D:D

ksfarmboy 02-14-2014 09:30 PM

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Here's a couple of mine.

Scott Garner 02-15-2014 04:14 AM

Clint,
I'm glad that you showed everyone your Dizzy Dean pinback. :cool:

I still feel that's one of the most visually attractive pinbacks that I've seen. If I was a Cards fan it would be at the top of my must have list!

ksfarmboy 02-15-2014 08:55 AM

Thanks Scott. The photo isn't too far off from the size maybe a little bigger. It's the only one I've seen and I'm not sure why the rarity.

ooo-ribay 02-15-2014 11:09 AM

beautiful pins, Clint!

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Originally Posted by batsballsbases (Post 1241744)
Your to new here! And you must have at least 500 posts in order for me to even consider selling you a piece to help your colection!:D:D LOL Only kidding you have a great colection Rob!:D:D

ha ha. yeah, I know how the pecking order works! :D

seattlerainiers 02-15-2014 04:02 PM

SF Seals, 1949 Japan Tour
 
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Here are some of my favorite pre-Giants SF pins, all from the historic Lefty O'Doul-led 1949 SF Seals tour of Japan.

The wonderful enameled badges with ribbons were given to and worn by tour participants, including players, management, press, military, and other dignitaries.

ooo-ribay 02-15-2014 04:05 PM

I could definitely make room in my collection for the interlocking SF :D

seattlerainiers 02-15-2014 04:09 PM

Dean/Martin
 
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Gas House Gang!

batsballsbases 02-15-2014 04:18 PM

lets try this
 
done

sayhey24 02-16-2014 10:27 AM

Thanks for your nice comments about my pin collection Al -- I'll post a few more later today. I haven't posted much because I've been doing more liquidating than buying!
The grouping you just put up for sale is amazing. I'm sure some collectors are salivating!

Greg

batsballsbases 02-16-2014 02:49 PM

Thanks Greg as always a pleasure! Greg if you think there is something that I might be intrested in just shoot me a PM. Al

thecatspajamas 02-16-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1241148)
THIS is a winning Mascot....

Outstanding photo! Any idea when that was taken? (sorry for the o/t comments guys, but I didn't start it :p )

aelefson 02-16-2014 07:25 PM

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I just got these along with a few N284s and some other items at an antique shop. Does anyone know who made the 1946 one? Is it a fantasy item (made more recently)? When I searched online I saw one sold in a Heritage auction in 2010.

Alan

batsballsbases 02-16-2014 08:21 PM

red sox
 
Val,
Here is some of what I picked up. Yes I did get a black background Runnels but it looks like you need a white runnels for the up grade. Sorry. The Jackie Jensen is (SOLD)

springpin 02-17-2014 08:18 AM

Alan,

No, the pin is not a fantasy, it is the real deal. Commissioned by a wishful thinking vendor.

aelefson 02-17-2014 05:27 PM

Thank you! I thought it was legitimate, but I wanted to be sure. It almost happened...

ooo-ribay 02-17-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aelefson (Post 1242933)
Thank you! I thought it was legitimate, but I wanted to be sure. It almost happened...

I wish I could find stuff like that at antique shops. Then again, I guess I would actually have to go to antique shops. :rolleyes:

Stonepony 02-17-2014 07:18 PM

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Scott Garner 02-17-2014 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 1243016)

VERY nice, Dave! That one of Matty is special.

perezfan 02-17-2014 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas (Post 1242503)
Outstanding photo! Any idea when that was taken? (sorry for the o/t comments guys, but I didn't start it :p )

1908.... Front and back of photo can be viewed via this link...

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...ntoryid=111278

Exhibitman 02-18-2014 01:14 PM

Don't know if anyone here is into pins from other sports or subjects, but I have quite a few boxing pins available for sale/trade and am looking for some others, like Marciano. I have the following available:

Boxing
Archie Moore: with mini boxing gloves attached
Jake La Motta
Marcel Cerdan
Sugar Ray Robinson
Randy Turpin
Mike Tyson
James Toney v. Roy Jones Jr.
Tami Mauriello
Jersey Joe Walcott (2 diff, one with ribbon]
Ingemar Johansson
Bob Montgomery
Henry Armstrong
Larry Holmes

Others
--1950s Harlem Globetrotters: nice figure of unidentified ballplayer twirling a ball on his left index finger and carrying a suitcase
--I also have several Peter Max designed pins from the movie Paint Your Wagon.
--1970s Montreal Canadians logo

ooo-ribay 02-26-2014 01:58 PM

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would anyone really walk around with this kind of weight hanging off a PM-10? How about the ones with a 6" bowie knife attached? :eek:

perezfan 02-26-2014 02:11 PM

Often wondered the same... Those Pinbacks with knives attached are from a whole different era. :eek:

MK 02-26-2014 02:15 PM

Rob,
I believe the attachments to pinbacks were done to make them more attractive to kids, especially boys. I remember vendors at ballparks with boards filled with pins with attachments. I admit as a 10 year old boy, a pin with a knife attached was pretty neat. Now of course this would never be allowed. Of course when I went to high school we had a rifle club where the boys brought their firearms to school. I don't know about the rest of you, but part of the reason I collect is to remember the good old days. They are sadly gone forever.

thecatspajamas 02-26-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1243112)
1908.... Front and back of photo can be viewed via this link...

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...ntoryid=111278

Cool. Thank you!

batsballsbases 02-26-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1246744)
Often wondered the same... Those Pinbacks with knives attached are from a whole different era. :eek:

Comon Guys what red blooded american boy can resist the Mick with a neat little brother pig sticker!!:eek::eek:

ooo-ribay 02-26-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by batsballsbases (Post 1246771)
Comon Guys what red blooded american boy can resist the Mick with a neat little brother pig sticker!!:eek::eek:

I dare you to wear that on your next plane flight :eek:

Generally, I don't love the attachments but the glove w/NY Giants was the only reason I got this duplicate Antonelli.

YankeeFan 02-26-2014 10:05 PM

Until today, I never saw a pinback with a knife attached. Very nice Mantle pin, BTW.

Another attachment I think is odd because it has nothing to do with baseball is this rabbits foot hanging from a Babe Ruth pinback. I think these were made in the 1940's and my imagination conjures up the theory that once the public knew he had cancer, these were made as a way for fans to "wish him luck". On the other hand, the black and purple ribbon lead me to think these were sold soon after his death, in which case, my first theory doesn't make sense :confused: I also have one with red and blue ribbons, also with a rabbits foot.


<a href="http://s997.photobucket.com/user/jtorsiello/media/Sports_Memorabilia/BabeRuth_PM10_zps71fc5bd9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/jtorsiello/Sports_Memorabilia/BabeRuth_PM10_zps71fc5bd9.jpg" border="0" alt="Babe_Ruth_PM10 photo BabeRuth_PM10_zps71fc5bd9.jpg"/></a>


BTW, I've been hoping to see some World Series and All-Star game press pins in this thread. I had a bunch of them years ago, but the vintage ones are gone now :-(. I have a few recent Yankees WS and 2008 All-Star and just one or two others. One of these days I hope to start a run of Yankees WS press pins. I'm sure many of you guys have nice press pins collections. I would love to see some of them!

ooo-ribay 02-27-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by YankeeFan (Post 1246933)
Until today, I never saw a pinback with a knife attached. Very nice Mantle pin, BTW.

Another attachment I think is odd because it has nothing to do with baseball is this rabbits foot hanging from a Babe Ruth pinback.


BTW, I've been hoping to see some World Series and All-Star game press pins in this thread. I had a bunch of them years ago, but the vintage ones are gone now :-(. I have a few recent Yankees WS and 2008 All-Star and just one or two others. One of these days I hope to start a run of Yankees WS press pins. I'm sure many of you guys have nice press pins collections. I would love to see some of them!

I have Giants pins with rabbit's feet.....I always figured they were just good luck for the team or player.

Totally agree with your wish to see some press pins....not necessarily Yankees ;)

batsballsbases 02-27-2014 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YankeeFan (Post 1246933)
Until today, I never saw a pinback with a knife attached. Very nice Mantle pin, BTW.

Another attachment I think is odd because it has nothing to do with baseball is this rabbits foot hanging from a Babe Ruth pinback. I think these were made in the 1940's and my imagination conjures up the theory that once the public knew he had cancer, these were made as a way for fans to "wish him luck". On the other hand, the black and purple ribbon lead me to think these were sold soon after his death, in which case, my first theory doesn't make sense :confused: I also have one with red and blue ribbons, also with a rabbits foot.


<a href="http://s997.photobucket.com/user/jtorsiello/media/Sports_Memorabilia/BabeRuth_PM10_zps71fc5bd9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/jtorsiello/Sports_Memorabilia/BabeRuth_PM10_zps71fc5bd9.jpg" border="0" alt="Babe_Ruth_PM10 photo BabeRuth_PM10_zps71fc5bd9.jpg"/></a>


BTW, I've been hoping to see some World Series and All-Star game press pins in this thread. I had a bunch of them years ago, but the vintage ones are gone now :-(. I have a few recent Yankees WS and 2008 All-Star and just one or two others. One of these days I hope to start a run of Yankees WS press pins. I'm sure many of you guys have nice press pins collections. I would love to see some of them!

Jack I agree my ruth pin is also just like yours rabbits foot and purple ribbons.
always found it odd and I agree that they were probably trying to give him luck in his fight of cancer. Believe it or not that knife is very sharp and pretty well made. A kid using it in the wrong way could cause alot of damage with it!:eek:

YankeeFan 02-27-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1247045)
I have Giants pins with rabbit's feet.....I always figured they were just good luck for the team or player.

Totally agree with your wish to see some press pins....not necessarily Yankees ;)


Rob - I was just sayin' that I would like to re-start my collection of Yankees press pins. But I'm not prejudiced - I want to see 'em all too! :D

pawpawdiv9 02-27-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1246739)
would anyone really walk around with this kind of weight hanging off a PM-10? How about the ones with a 6" bowie knife attached? :eek:

I just ran across this Mickey Mantle one on Ebay...pin with glove
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1950...item3a8bfe0c15
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...R1!~~60_57.JPG

ooo-ribay 02-27-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9 (Post 1247181)
I just ran across this Mickey Mantle one on Ebay...pin with glove

The construction of that glove doesn't look half bad :D

ooo-ribay 03-06-2014 12:59 PM

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I was going to ask if other teams had these Armour (hot dog) Tab Pins...I did a quick google and found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-1960s-...-/220813464547

Good lord! If that was the SF logo, I'd be on it like a fly on you-now-what! :eek:

Anybody got any more???

ooo-ribay 03-10-2014 09:12 AM

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Here are some good 1958-59 pinbacks. All are 3.5". Notice Willie's hat logo is that of the SF Seals. It is believed the little mitt is covering "1958" so that those buttons could be sold again the next year.

71buc 03-10-2014 01:11 PM

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I don't really collect pins although I have a number of them I picked up at ballparks as a kid. I had been looking for these two on eBay for quite some time. I had always wanted examples of both to display with my 1971 post season press passes and ticket stubs. Just when I had about given up they both were listed within weeks of each other. I have no idea why I had such difficulty finding these. Does anyone know if they made a larger version of World series pin?

thansen30 04-10-2014 08:50 PM

For the record, the Vida Blue pinback is from 1971, sold outside the stadium. These pins were unlicensed by MLB or MLBPA, and there are no manufacturer's marking whatsoever on the pins. I collect them, but they're tough to find!
I found a reference to a set of 10 Brewers pins from this set today, posted by Mears.http://collectiblescentral.com/Adver...rsPinBacks.jpg

ooo-ribay 04-15-2014 07:03 PM

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Just picked this up for a decent price on ebay. Dr. Paul thinks it's from 1951.

Paul....if you see this.....I have no reason to suspect this is a re-pop but it is a bit chipped, as if there's no cello. Are yours the same? :confused:

sebie43 04-15-2014 07:19 PM

I do not actively collect pins and this is my only one, maybe it will bring good luck this year. Bless you boys http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/16/syquby6e.jpg

sflayank 04-15-2014 07:32 PM

pins armour team tabs
 
i have 17 armour team tabs
looking for angels twins and senators
do they exist?
also looking for 1967 cranes pin athletics? does it exist?
thanks
sflayank@aol.com

ooo-ribay 04-16-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sflayank (Post 1266048)
i have 17 armour team tabs
looking for angels twins and senators
do they exist?
also looking for 1967 cranes pin athletics? does it exist?
thanks
sflayank@aol.com

I wish I could answer your questions but I have no idea. I would absolutely LOVE to see a picture of your Armour team pins! :D

ooo-ribay 04-16-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thansen30 (Post 1264756)
For the record, the Vida Blue pinback is from 1971, sold outside the stadium. These pins were unlicensed by MLB or MLBPA, and there are no manufacturer's marking whatsoever on the pins. I collect them, but they're tough to find!
I found a reference to a set of 10 Brewers pins from this set today, posted by Mears.http://collectiblescentral.com/Adver...rsPinBacks.jpg

Great information to know! I wonder if they were the work of ONE photographer or of a "team"?

Scott Garner 04-30-2014 03:24 PM

Vida Blue is off the want list!
 
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Many thanks to Rob.

Vida Blue is now off of my no-hit pitcher pinback want list!

jsage 04-30-2014 03:53 PM

Pin Collection
 
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Pin Collection - focused on a few players and events.
Jerry Sage
jssage24@yahoo.com

aelefson 05-01-2014 07:03 PM

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Hi-
I just got the pins scanned below at a local antique shop. I am still trying to sort out which ones I want to keep.
Alan

71buc 05-07-2014 11:06 PM

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After viewing all of the pins in this thread I thought I would pick up a few for myself. However, I have decided to start very small and narrow my focus to players I liked in my childhood. I will be limiting my pickups to pins in this set as I think it is attractive and VERY CHEAP. However, I know nothing about these items. I picked up the pin below very recently and thought I should attempt to educate myself before I go further. Sorry to revive an old thread.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

• Is there a name or designation for this set?
• How were they marketed?
• How many players from each team were produced?
• Are there any known scarcities or variations?
• The text on the Joe Morgan is different than the others is there a reason for that?
• What years were they produced?
• Are they all easel backed?

ooo-ribay 05-08-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1273903)
After viewing all of the pins in this thread I thought I would pick up a few for myself. However, I have decided to start very small and narrow my focus to players I liked in my childhood. I will be limiting my pickups to pins in this set as I think it is attractive and VERY CHEAP. However, I know nothing about these items. I picked up the pin below very recently and thought I should attempt to educate myself before I go further. Sorry to revive an old thread.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

• Is there a name or designation for this set?
• How were they marketed?
• How many players from each team were produced?
• Are there any known scarcities or variations?
• The text on the Joe Morgan is different than the others is there a reason for that?
• What years were they produced?
• Are they all easel backed?

"sorry to revive an old thread"? I love that you revived it! I can't hang with those 5 figure card guys! :D

re: your questions...
  • I call them the "black square series" due to the text box.
  • unknown.
  • The Giants had 12 players but we hadn't seen McCovey until just recently.
  • unknown.
  • unknown.
  • Based on the Giants in the set, I've always thought 1972-73.
  • Mine are all easel backed.

I'm not sure I knew other teams were in this series....I tend to live in my own little Giants world :p...I've always liked these too and would love to see more! Sorry for my crappy picture. The Tom Bradley (lower right) isn't due to me....he is ALWAYS in heavy shadow.

71buc 05-08-2014 07:41 PM

Thanks for the information, its the simple pleasures in life that are sometimes the most fun. Sanguillen arrived in the mail today. I agree based on Clemente that 72-73 would be the likely production dates. The other Pirates I'm aware of are Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Gene Clines, and Rene Stennet. I have to believe Dock Ellis and Steve Blass were made as well. If so that would make 10 Bucs.

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1274193)
"sorry to revive an old thread"? I love that you revived it! I can't hang with those 5 figure card guys! :D

re: your questions...
  • I call them the "black square series" due to the text box.
  • unknown.
  • The Giants had 12 players but we hadn't seen McCovey until just recently.
  • unknown.
  • unknown.
  • Based on the Giants in the set, I've always thought 1972-73.
  • Mine are all easel backed.

I'm not sure I knew other teams were in this series....I tend to live in my own little Giants world :p...I've always liked these too and would love to see more! Sorry for my crappy picture. The Tom Bradley (lower right) isn't due to me....he is ALWAYS in heavy shadow.


ooo-ribay 05-08-2014 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1274337)
Thanks for the information, its the simple pleasures in life that are sometimes the most fun. Sanguillen arrived in the mail today. I agree based on Clemente that 72-73 would be the likely production dates. The other Pirates I'm aware of are Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Gene Clines, and Rene Stennet. I have to believe Dock Ellis and Steve Blass were made as well. If so that would make 10 Bucs.

just based on eBay, they don't turn up very often....altho one seller has had maybe 6 of the Giants forever. He's asking $20 ea. What have you been paying? Also, have you seen others besides Bucs, Reds and Giants?

71buc 05-08-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1274360)
just based on eBay, they don't turn up very often....altho one seller has had maybe 6 of the Giants forever. He's asking $20 ea. What have you been paying? Also, have you seen others besides Bucs, Reds and Giants?

I paid $30 for Clemente $15 for Stargell the rest were $7-10 a piece. This seller has a variety of them from different teams. I dont know how he is dating them and his prices seem a bit high.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw...utton&_sacat=0

ooo-ribay 05-11-2014 08:32 PM

just did an eBay search for PM-10....(the keyword brings back a lot of non-PM-10 pin backs)...two things stand out:

a) the Orioles sure have a lot of nice looking pins.

b) the Orioles sure have fallen but are hopefully on the way way back.

Bobmc 05-12-2014 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1270991)
Many thanks to Rob.

Vida Blue is now off of my no-hit pitcher pinback want list!

Scott,
Didn't see this one on your nohitter list...you must have it.
Do you know what year and/or category it is?
Thanks
Bob

dwr11 05-12-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1274360)
just based on eBay, they don't turn up very often....altho one seller has had maybe 6 of the Giants forever. He's asking $20 ea. What have you been paying? Also, have you seen others besides Bucs, Reds and Giants?

Here is a scan of the Tony Oliva and Harmon Killebrew buttons from this series. I don't have individual scans for them. I always thought they were from 1971-1973. I know there are two different Clemente buttons from this series. One of them is very difficult to find. I have found the Twins players from this series to be pretty difficult to find but not impossible. Some players are extremely easy and others you hardly ever see.

perezfan 05-12-2014 11:35 AM

I would guess 1972 for the dating. Joe Morgan came to the Reds from Houston to start the '72 Season, and the font on his pin is different/larger. That would indicate a revision of some type, and 1972 would make the most sense.

If they were made in '71, Morgan would be an Astro. If they were made in '73, the Morgan Pin would look like all the rest of the Reds. That leaves 1972 as the logical choice.

Just conjecture, but that's my measly contribution.

dwr11 05-12-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1275358)
I would guess 1972 for the dating. Joe Morgan came to the Reds from Houston to start the '72 Season, and the font on his pin is different/larger. That would indicate a revision of some type, and 1972 would make the most sense.

If they were made in '71, Morgan would be an Astro. If they were made in '73, the Morgan Pin would look like all the rest of the Reds. That leaves 1972 as the logical choice.

Just conjecture, but that's my measly contribution.

That's good logic. I am thinking they were made for 2 or 3 years though. My logic is based on the fact that Clemente has two different buttons from this series with completely different photos. Great thread and discussion!

ooo-ribay 05-13-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dwr11 (Post 1275341)
Here is a scan of the Tony Oliva and Harmon Killebrew buttons from this series. I don't have individual scans for them. I always thought they were from 1971-1973. I know there are two different Clemente buttons from this series. One of them is very difficult to find. I have found the Twins players from this series to be pretty difficult to find but not impossible. Some players are extremely easy and others you hardly ever see.

Lots of pins and lots of pennants for the Twins. I guess it only makes sense with Wincraft based in state.

71buc 05-13-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwr11 (Post 1275367)
That's good logic. I am thinking they were made for 2 or 3 years though. My logic is based on the fact that Clemente has two different buttons from this series with completely different photos. Great thread and discussion!

Your logic sounds good to me. However, I have never seen another with the same font as on the Morgan. Does anyone have an example of the other version of Clemente? I would love to see it.

Scott Garner 05-14-2014 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobmc (Post 1275315)
Scott,
Didn't see this one on your nohitter list...you must have it.
Do you know what year and/or category it is?
Thanks
Bob

Hi Bob,
I do have two different Joe Horlen pinback buttons from his stint with the White Sox, but I have not see this one which is completely new to me.
I'm sorry that I don't have any info to help....

Scott Garner 05-14-2014 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1274193)
"sorry to revive an old thread"? I love that you revived it! I can't hang with those 5 figure card guys! :D

re: your questions...
  • I call them the "black square series" due to the text box.
  • unknown.
  • The Giants had 12 players but we hadn't seen McCovey until just recently.
  • unknown.
  • unknown.
  • Based on the Giants in the set, I've always thought 1972-73.
  • Mine are all easel backed.

I'm not sure I knew other teams were in this series....I tend to live in my own little Giants world :p...I've always liked these too and would love to see more! Sorry for my crappy picture. The Tom Bradley (lower right) isn't due to me....he is ALWAYS in heavy shadow.

Rob, Mike and Mark,
Here is my contribution to this interesting topic:
For many years I have owned this "black square" pinback of Nolan Ryan in my collection. This is a very challenging pin to find as I have not seen/ heard of many in the hobby, even amongst fellow Nolan Ryan advanced collectors.

I always guessed its vintage to be around 1974, but I can certainly believe that it could be 1973 based on the road grey uniform style that Nolan is wearing. It cannot be from 1972 because of the "A" on Nolan's Angels jersey being a capital "A" and not the lower case "a" which were used in 1972.

My Ryan pinback does not have an easel on the back, or at least mine did not have one when I purchased it second hand in the 1980's.

Finally, this pinback was definitely photographed somewhere other than So Cal. Nolan is wearing a road grey uniform and features the shaded face ala Rob's Tom Bradley SF pinback. I don't recognize the stadium in the background. Does anyone recognize where this photo may have been shot?

One of my close friends and I, which both attended many Angels games during the early to mid 1970's in Anaheim, do not recognize this pinback as one that was sold at Anaheim Stadium, so these likely were not a stadium pin.
Thanks!

ooo-ribay 05-14-2014 07:44 AM

Interesting that this one could not be 1972. The shaded face reinforces my idea that not a whole lot of effort went into production. The "centering" also often leaves something to be desired.

71buc 05-14-2014 09:06 AM

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Thanks for your input Scott. Why am I not surprised you would have the Ryan pin. Here are pins featuring Santo with the White Sox. He played for them in only 1974. The Cepeda pin has to be 1973 for the same reason. I am thinking these were produced between 1972 and 1974.

perezfan 05-14-2014 09:44 AM

Interesting... Based on evidence, it looks like these were definitely made over a range of 2-3 years.

Great thread!

dwr11 05-14-2014 01:36 PM

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I used to have the exact same Nolan Ryan button. I picked the Ryan up with a Jim Palmer and two Reggie Jackson's many years ago. I can't find a scan of the Ryan that I sold but here are the Jim Palmer and one of the Jackson's. The Tarkenton football button from 1964 is also a very difficult button to find.

dwr11 05-14-2014 01:41 PM

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Your logic sounds good to me. However, I have never seen another with the same font as on the Morgan. Does anyone have an example of the other version of Clemente? I would love to see it.

I do not have a photo of the other Clemente button from this series but if I remember correctly he has a yellow jersey on. If you go to the National, there are a couple of guys who have tons of Clemente items and he had both of them at his table. The one with the yellow jersey was around $200.00 (give or take) if I remember correctly.

Bobmc 05-14-2014 06:40 PM

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Hi Bob,
I do have two different Joe Horlen pinback buttons from his stint with the White Sox, but I have not see this one which is completely new to me.
I'm sorry that I don't have any info to help....

Hi Scott,

Thank you. Any chance you could post the 2 Horlen images. I'm guessing one is the small mlbpa pin.... Thank you much.
Bob

Scott Garner 05-14-2014 07:17 PM

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Hi Scott,

Thank you. Any chance you could post the 2 Horlen images. I'm guessing one is the small mlbpa pin.... Thank you much.
Bob

Hi Bob,
You are correct. The second Joel Horlen pinback has the same image, but is larger and is marked Kelly's Zip.

I hope this helps.

Scott Garner 05-14-2014 07:29 PM

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^^^^ also! it's the rare OVAL SHAPE!

Sorry, couldn't resist. Interesting that this one could not be 1972. The shaded face reinforces my idea that not a whole lot of effort went into production. The "centering" also often leaves something to be desired.

Rob, Mike, Mark and all,

I also want to note that my pinback not only doesn't have the easel, it does not have the clear "film" over the image like Rob's Juan Marichal that has the easel (which I also own in my collection). Instead, my Ryan pinback appears to have the image directly printed on the front of the metal button, if you are following me...

It does appear that perhaps two processes were used when producing these pinback:

One which features the easel back and the clear film on the front of the button.
The other version has the photographic image applied directly to the metal pinback front with no easel back.

Can anyone else confirm this?

71buc 05-14-2014 07:42 PM

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Rob, Mike, Mark and all,

I also want to note that my pinback not only doesn't have the easel, it does not have the clear "film" over the image like Rob's Juan Marichal that has the easel (which I also own in my collection). Instead, my Ryan pinback appears to have the image directly printed on the front of the metal button, if you are following me...

It does appear that perhaps two processes were used when producing these pinback:

One which features the easel back and the clear film on the front of the button.
The other version has the photographic image applied directly to the metal pinback front with no easel back.

Can anyone else confirm this?

I recently had a beat up Clemente where water got beneath the clear plastic cover and it peeled off leaving only the printed image on the face of the button. When touched it feels like it was printed on paper and affixed with adhesive. The easel on the reverse was made of cardboard that suffered water damage and separated from the pin. This resulted in the back looking exactly like your Ryan. I'll see if I can locate it.

The font on Palmer looks closest to the Morgan than any pin I have seen previously.

Scott Garner 05-16-2014 11:25 AM

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Here is another Jim Palmer pinback that I just picked up.
I believe that these were manufactured during the 1980-1981 timeframe and they're about 1" in size.

I also have a Nolan Ryan from this same set. The funky old hat that he wore in his photo could only have been from the 1980 or 1981 season.

sayhey24 05-21-2014 05:52 PM

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Posted this in the pickups section as well, but since it's an advertising piece for pins, thought I would show it here. 1920's Kolb's 7 inch wall-hanging ad featuring players on the Kolb's pins.

Greg

CobbvLajoie1910 05-21-2014 06:25 PM

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Posted this in the pickups section as well, but since it's an advertising piece for pins, thought I would show it here. 1920's Kolb's 7 inch wall-hanging ad featuring players on the Kolb's pins.

Greg


Holy smokes, is that a cool piece. Congrats, Greg! :)

ooo-ribay 05-22-2014 11:08 AM

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Holy smokes, is that a cool piece. Congrats, Greg! :)

I agree! :D


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