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JollyElm 12-15-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 2175149)
One of these cards from my Dots Miller collection has to be the winner unless I'm forgetting something

It's hilarious how the company must've thought, "Man, everyone uses the same darn picture of him holding the bat. Wait, I got it!! Have the art department leave his hands where they are, but airbrush out the bat and throw a mitt on his hand, so he looks like he's in the field. Oh, make him holding a ball, too. Problem solved!! It's just like having a different picture. Now, let's drink some scotch!!"

TheBig6 12-15-2021 05:10 PM

https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...ilshuggins.jpg

Vintagedeputy 12-15-2021 05:23 PM

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33 Briggs Ruth Total pop 7 between PSA, SGC
21 W516-2-3 Ruth Total pop 6 between PSA, SGC

I think that Briggs uses the same image as the 1932 Sanella.

egri 12-15-2021 06:15 PM

Probably this one:

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6173a57d21.jpg [/IMG]

I don't know how many of these are out there, but there can't be very many. 1953 was Newsom's last season, and he died in 1962. I picked this up from Jim Stinson a few years ago.

rjackson44 12-15-2021 06:41 PM

Just picked up a 1966 bobby orr in safe at bank 😀😀

Andrew1975 12-15-2021 07:57 PM

What's the rarest card you own?
 
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Fred 12-15-2021 08:04 PM

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For my 19th century collecting buddies. Here we go again... :p

kmac32 12-15-2021 08:05 PM

E123 Curtis Ireland Chocolate Elmer Miller. One of a kind to my knowledge!

T206Jim 12-15-2021 08:15 PM

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The only known 1914 Major League Ruth rookie in the hobby.

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bn2cardz 12-15-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2175288)

Didn't you own this McGraw at one point from the same lot?
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1327080711

Seven 12-15-2021 08:22 PM

Some incredible cards on here. Cards I couldn't even dream of. Fantastic job, all around gentlemen, it's been a treat to read through this thread. In the spirit of sticking to the section, I have little to offer in terms of Pre-War. Post War would be my Berk Ross Mantle. Really have to start working on the Pre-War aspect of my collection!

shagrotn77 12-15-2021 08:25 PM

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cgjackson222 12-15-2021 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2175347)
It's hilarious how the company must've thought, "Man, everyone uses the same darn picture of him holding the bat. Wait, I got it!! Have the art department leave his hands where they are, but airbrush out the bat and throw a mitt on his hand, so he looks like he's in the field. Oh, make him holding a ball, too. Problem solved!! It's just like having a different picture. Now, let's drink some scotch!!"

Hahaha, and that "mitt" they added looks absurd. It looks more like a bloated cadaver hand than any kind of functional mitt.

CobbSpikedMe 12-15-2021 08:56 PM

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As far as I can tell there is only one of these graded by SGC and none by PSA. T215 Red Cross Purtell, Jersey City. And these other little "cards" don't show up too often so I assume they are pretty scarce as well.


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pherbener 12-15-2021 08:58 PM

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1906 Ullman Matty and Blank Back Beast rookie

BobC 12-15-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2175449)
Hahaha, and that "mitt" they added looks absurd. It looks more like a bloated cadaver hand than any kind of functional mitt.

Don't believe that was added. The shadows on the uniform front are completely different as well. Doubt they'd go to that trouble to airbrush in a glove and remove a bat, and then worry abount the shadows on the front. Those are two different images that oddly look a bit similar.

G1911 12-15-2021 09:30 PM

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A lot of 1 of 1's, but either post-war or non-baseball.

This card was undiscovered and unknown for 106 years. There are now 4 known proper copies of it. This uncompleted panel from a proof sheet represents 2/3 of the total population.

clydepepper 12-15-2021 09:35 PM

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[QUOTE=Leon;2175245]the rarest Ruth....one that was never made! W626


I guess mine, since it's from a test set, is also a one of none...


I see yours and you see mine, so they must have been made...just not in bulk...right?


Does this line of thought make all those modern BUNT Digitals just as rare?

UGH! Perish the thought.
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Chris Counts 12-15-2021 09:57 PM

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Here's a 1940 Play Ball color proof.

Leon 12-15-2021 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 2175460)
I guess mine, since it's from a test set, is also a one of none...


I see yours and you see mine, so they must have been made...just not in bulk...right?


Does this line of thought make all those modern BUNT Digitals just as rare?

UGH! Perish the thought.
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Yours is a card. Mine is a negative to make a card that was never made. I will trade you :)

and a a few more scarce ones...

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chadeast 12-15-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by T206Jim (Post 2175432)
The only known 1914 Major League Ruth rookie in the hobby.

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Wow, gorgeous! Thanks for sharing.

paul 12-15-2021 10:01 PM

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I never get tired of showing off this one.

paul 12-15-2021 10:03 PM

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I also never get tired of showing this one -- a 1982 Lotte Potato Chips Tom Seaver from Korea. I've still never seen another card from this set.

whiteymet 12-15-2021 11:13 PM

1960 Topps Kent Hadley with A's Logo
 
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Hi Guys:

Since others have shown Post-War cards in this thread I will take the liberty as well to show this card from my collection.

You can read about the card below in an article written by Keith Olbermann in SCD:

As long ago as 1975, I wrote a column for one of the hobby’s earliest magazines, The Trader Speaks, listing all the known variations in the Topps sets issued to that point. Where I got the information, I can’t say for sure – it may have come from the research of the collecting pioneer Richard Egan. But there they were, listed as the variations for 1960:
- No. 9 Faye Throneberry (Yankees logo instead of Senators)
- No. 58 Gino Cimoli (Cardinals logo instead of Pirates)
- No. 102 Kent Hadley (Athletics logo instead of Yankees)

These cards were so scarce that I never even saw a picture of one of them until 12 years later. They had never been included in checklists of the 1960 set, and had been dismissed in hobby lore as unissued proofs or just unfounded rumors. Yet when the card of Cimoli turned up, it looked almost exactly like the issued card – it was the same thickness, it did not look like it had been cut from a sheet, and it had a fully printed back. The only differences were that it identified Cimoli – front and back – as a member of the Cardinals, had the Cardinals logo, and made no mention of his December 1959 trade to the Pirates. Up until that point, no Topps proof sheet had ever turned up with anything other than a blank back. To all appearances, it looked like an issued card – an incredibly scarce variation.

The Hadley card proved even more confusing. It came to the market in a Mastro auction in 1999 and sold for nearly $14,000 (my fault). Like the Cimoli, it looked like an issued card. But unlike the Cimoli, this one was up to date. It noted Hadley’s trade from the Athletics to the Yankees, and identified his team – front and back – as the Yankees. The only variation was the logo. Where the Yankee insignia was on all the other known copies, there was the Athletics’ symbol. It didn’t make any sense.

Addendum to Keith's article. These three cards are now listed in the SCD Standard Catalog

oldeboo 12-16-2021 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 2175467)
I also never get tired of showing this one -- a 1982 Lotte Potato Chips Tom Seaver from Korea. I've still never seen another card from this set.

Cool card. I know absolutely nothing about this issue. However, it is Lotte Choco Pie. It's basically a moon pie.

glchen 12-16-2021 01:08 AM

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[QUOTE=Leon;2175245]the rarest Ruth....one that was never made! W626



Here's another Sun Pictures negative of Ruth with a different image. :)

JollyElm 12-16-2021 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BobC (Post 2175454)
Don't believe that was added. The shadows on the uniform front are completely different as well. Doubt they'd go to that trouble to airbrush in a glove and remove a bat, and then worry abount the shadows on the front. Those are two different images that oddly look a bit similar.

Please tell me you're being facetious????

The artists obviously worked it a bit differently with shadows and such, but they unquestionably started with the same photo!! The most obvious thing is the 'plant eating dinosaur' on his belly...

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...but also the distinct shadow lines and that white area at his collar (and the collars themselves). Plus, look at his hand on the bat. The mitt looks exactly the same. They just traced around his fingers to make a mitt. And follow the shape of his left arm from shoulder to elbow. The artist took a tiny bit of liberty, but they are identical shapes. Look at how exact of a match it is where his right sleeve ends at his wrist. Look at the shape of his right hand. The right side and thumb are a match, and check out the size of his index finger. Holding the bat it's normal looking, but when the artist created the baseball imagery, he made it huuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

brianp-beme 12-16-2021 01:33 AM

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1920s wunc john mcgraw King of Clubs SGC20 (yes it is mislabeled as king of spades)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f7857db02d.jpg

Cool tough McGraw. I have a non-tinted version.

Brian

mrreality68 12-16-2021 04:56 AM

Keep These coming alot of amazing and Truly Rare cards.

Never realized there could be so many 1 of 1's and a "test Card" wow.

cgjackson222 12-16-2021 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2175483)
Please tell me you're being facetious????

The artists obviously worked it a bit differently with shadows and such, but they unquestionably started with the same photo!! The most obvious thing is the 'plant eating dinosaur' on his belly...

Haha, yes the plant eating dinosaur/prehistoric kangaroo on his belly is really the dead giveaway/linking fingerprint that both cards are based off the same image. Good detective work!

Exhibitman 12-16-2021 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 2175467)
I also never get tired of showing this one -- a 1982 Lotte Potato Chips Tom Seaver from Korea. I've still never seen another card from this set.

Here's a Korean Aaron from 1982 and apparently a hot dog company. My guess is that our cards were both issued as part of the first season of the Korean professional baseball league. That's what Aaron was doing there on tour.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%201.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%202.jpg

Exhibitman 12-16-2021 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 2175433)
Didn't you own this McGraw at one point from the same lot?
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1327080711

Wow, that's an old scan. Yeah, I did. I once had all of the ballplayers from the set (there' a Speaker and a Bob Meusel too).

MattyC 12-16-2021 08:08 AM

Fascinating thread. That 1960 logo variation is an eye opener. Learn something everyday, or at least try to! I would imagine those Korean cards haunt many the player collector.

My rarest card (thanks to Joe T, who hunted this one down for me) is a signed 1952 Bowman Mantle. There are only 19 signed, as compared to 3400 graded unsigned in the PSA pop report. It is the second rarest of all signed basic issue Topps/Bowman Mantle cards, behind the 1952 Topps, of which there are 14 examples in the pop data.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ec0f4884_c.jpg

mrreality68 12-16-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 2175556)
Fascinating thread. That 1960 logo variation is an eye opener. Learn something everyday, or at least try to! I would imagine those Korean cards haunt many the player collector.

My rarest card (thanks to Joe T, who hunted this one down for me) is a signed 1952 Bowman Mantle. There are only 19 signed, as compared to 3400 graded unsigned in the PSA pop report. It is the second rarest of all signed basic issue Topps/Bowman Mantle cards, behind the 1952 Topps, of which there are 14 examples in the pop data.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ec0f4884_c.jpg

Very nice card and autograph Matt

steve B 12-16-2021 08:46 AM

I have a few of these, got all together and haven't seen any others.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10144https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=10145

And crazily enough ended up with the complete set of these, only 25 cards not all sports. Some are 1/1 and something like 6 of the 25 weren't cataloged until this find.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=16702https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=16701

orioles70 12-16-2021 10:22 AM

As far as I know this is the only T205 Hugh Duffy with a Hindu back...I bought it at a Richmond VA show in 1998 or 1999https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...dedc6be19e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0edf6a63f2.jpg

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the-illini 12-16-2021 10:50 AM

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A 1925 Exhibit rookie card of Bill Terry. I haven't seen one of these for sale in quite some time

MattyC 12-16-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2175558)
Very nice card and autograph Matt

Thanks very much, Jeff.

h2oya311 12-16-2021 12:17 PM

I love seeing a thread with so many cards that were once part of my collection. Glad they give other members so much pleasure!

I still have a few regrets (from sales), but money allocated to cards is limited. For me, I have to sell in order to buy…

Keep ‘em coming!

h2oya311 12-16-2021 12:21 PM

I guess I should add one - a 1926 Kut-Out Yankees of Earle Combs (rookie)

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...%20Kut-Out.jpg

Leon 12-16-2021 12:42 PM

a lot of postcards would be one of ones....but there is always a chance another could pop up.

https://luckeycards.com/ppcunc1909nativeindians.JPG

hcv123 12-16-2021 12:59 PM

One more for fun
 
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Love seeing all the GREAT cards shown!

At first glance this looks like the quite common 1967 Topps pinup insert. It differs in a number of ways - 1) It is printed on sticker stock (similar to 67 Pirates/Red Sox stickers and 68 Action all star stickers) 2) there is no number 3) The image is much crisper than on the pin-ups. It has been examined by many experts - a consensus of opinion is it was a 1 off prototype done by Topps - not even making it to a testing phase. To date it is the only example of any player I have ever seen.

MattyC 12-16-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2175646)
Love seeing all the GREAT cards shown!

At first glance this looks like the quite common 1967 Topps pinup insert. It differs in a number of ways - 1) It is printed on sticker stock (similar to 67 Pirates/Red Sox stickers and 68 Action all star stickers) 2) there is no number 3) The image is much crisper than on the pin-ups. It has been examined by many experts - a consensus of opinion is it was a 1 off prototype done by Topps - not even making it to a testing phase. To date it is the only example of any player I have ever seen.

So is that essentially akin to a Dice Game Mantle— yet signed also by Clemente. Mind blown. Is that considered the Grail of all Clemente pieces?

Casey2296 12-16-2021 01:49 PM

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Here's another 1/1, E94 Orange Turner.
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orioles70 12-16-2021 04:25 PM

Not sure there is a nicer T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamp of Ty Cobb https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f6c332daf9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c11312a7b7.jpg

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Robextend 12-16-2021 04:54 PM

Nothing too rare in my collection these days, but these would probably be it:

https://photos.imageevent.com/vansly...ze/Waddell.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/vansly...0Tip%20Top.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/vansly...0SGC%201.5.jpg

sflayank 12-16-2021 04:56 PM

Rarest
 
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Only ones known to exist

sflayank 12-16-2021 05:07 PM

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Only ones known

Bestdj777 12-16-2021 05:31 PM

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Only ones known to exist

So jealous of the Venezuelan tattoo. It’s bizarre to me that we have yet to see another example from the set in the last ten years or whatever it’s been since you picked this one up. Did you by any chance ask the seller for any backstory they might have on it when you got it?

sflayank 12-16-2021 05:45 PM

No never asked
There must be a few more still down there
Lots of cards came up in the last few years


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