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The card is not for sale I apologize
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if I were spending 3/4 million on a card...let alone $1000...I'd want a high resolution scan of the front and the back!
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How many are 'potential'? Let's be honest. Almost for certian 0 of everyone. I believe that most of the questions are not from interested buyers. They are simply people interested or people that have nothing better to do than to try to poke holes in the person's story. I can understand how that is burdensome when you have such an interesting item and you have stuff to do. I have definitely tried to sell things and been bombarded with increased activity from sources I was certain would never pan out. Especially if the motivation to sell is low. You want people that are qualified, interested and capable only. It is unfair to question the level of motivation of the seller. My guess is that it's a new experience for the seller. |
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here you go gentlemen!
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Also - sale price here is $715K but in Rich's article $450K? At a minimum some high-res scans would be in order to be taken seriously. Those that I've seen so far in this forum suck. |
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slightly better?
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Surely you can see the argument in my statement, right? Is it that you just don't believe there may be a less than overly ambitious Wagner owner on his Ps and Qs that wants every bit of attention he can get for his listing? |
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If this were a major auction house offering that card, it would have detailed high-res scans and a nice write-up. The description we got - at least at first - would probably not hold up to some of the '55 Bowman commons I sold on eBay last year. |
welcome to the net54 tire kickers convention
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Ok. Poll. How many people here have the money to buy the card?
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This whole thread is most amusing to me. Are you kidding? No, I don't have the money to buy that card. If it were bought by a card company and chopped into a million pieces to make memorabilia cards out of, I wouldn't have enough money to buy even THAT card.
But my aproach was kind of like I post a lot here, and you are going to have to suffer my opinions and questions, lol...Sorry. |
The card is not for sale I apologize
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A tip in posting pics:
I use this trick-- [img]XXXX[/img] Most times it will put a large pic in the message. Just past the image where i put the X's. Maybe it helps or it doesnt, but may help others here too. |
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Does he need to, "Man"? Anyone with a small amount of reasoning logic can deduce that 99 percent of the population can't afford the card and he is getting enough attention to simply know that most people asking him questions are not buyers. Even if they were, would they be on here dropping public messages about how much coin they may drop on a single card? That is common sense. No need to posture further and dive into the minutia that is irrelevant. We are all guilty of commenting and asking questions on a thread(this one) that we are not going to be buyers on. Maybe the right place is on the general forum topic and not in his BST thread. |
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That card is not a PSA 4 in a million years. The corners are beyond rounded, they are rounded off. Corners on a 4 can be moderately worn, but nowhere near that bad. Also may be worth pointing out that earlier in this thread you said the card was a PSA 2? Uh.....which is it? There is of course going to be a ton of $ value difference between those grades on any legit copy of the most valuable card in the world being sold - but you knew that right? |
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I will say I saw the card in person at the store. Yes it exists.
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If nothing else, it's cool to see. It's not another Grandpa's attic find, sick patch, unknown authenticity, own-a-piece-of-history, feels old card.
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I am going to post more pictures later today
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The problem is that the op failed to follow the 7 p’s: Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. The T206 Wagner and Joe Jackson gamer are holy grails. Probably a good first step is to contact Leon to see if it’s ok to post such a magnificent and expensive item on the board. Have him back you and verify the item and list properly with all the details. Then instead of questions and doubt he would be getting oohs and aahs and probably a couple of legit offers. You throw them out without doing your due diligence (or even a photo) and then tell some confusing story about the card being painted and cracked our of the holder and you get what you get. When you are representing items of such importance you have to bring your A-Game. Now would be a good time for a do-over. Try that again like you have a million dollar listing - because you do.
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This is a card that would do great in an auction, but selling it on BST might not be the right fit. But you never know.
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There's been a few legit T206 Wagners on this B/S/T for sale over the years.
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The ONLY way that card gets a 3 or 3.5 is if Mr. Magoo is the grader- careful, your credibility is in question....
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Good luck with the sale, but it doesn't help your credibility to tell people that card would grade a 3 or 4. You may just not know that you're wrong, but everyone else on the forum knows you are. If you haven't sent any cards in to PSA in a few years and looked at the grades you received, it's probably best not to make any claims about what grade this card would get.
There's exactly 0.00% chance this card could get a 2.5 or better with those corners, assuming there was no alteration. I would take the the under on 1.75 personally. It's a great card. No reason to lie or exaggerate to try and make it seem like more than it is. Edited to add that I probably went a little harder than I needed to in the above post. The OP sent me a PM and said he was just comparing his card to another PSA 2 and his card looked better. That is certainly possible. This card could not get above a "2" because of the corners, but it's still a nice looking card. I have a bunch of PSA 2s with rounded corners that look great. |
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Ok, after reading the whole thread, everyone thinks this is a legit listing. So, I withdraw, but leave posted, my comment. |
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restored......then unrestored....
I have been following this card for almost 5 years..... its been worked 2 x over...... :) |
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