Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1595264)

The Leo Durocher #106 card is not a "proof" card.



I closely examined this card in 1981, while visiting with George Moll at his home in Holland, PA. He handed me two Durocher cards from his 1933 Goudey

set (George Moll's favorite set). One card had #147 on it, and the other card had #106 on it.



1st for some history...... the George Moll Advertising Agency (Philadelphia) was the force behind all the Play Ball and Bowman Sports & Non-Sports cards

issued by the Bowman Gum Co. (1938 - 1955). Moll employed 12 professional artists who designed all the cards.



In 1938, George Moll convinced Warren Bowman that he should market his popular Bubble Gum product with trading cards. And that led to "the start of a

beautiful friendship".



If I recall correctly, it's my understanding that his Agency produced this Durocher card as a space-filler for Goudey collectors who didn't have a #106 card.





TED Z

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Originally Posted by BBB (Post 1596608)

Fascinating stuff! Can barely fathom what it should be worth if one actually hit the market again. I bet it would still be undervalued if compared to Lajoie for rareness. Which is a bit of a bummer as it's part of the same legend as the Lajoie. Thanks for Intel.


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Originally Posted by brob28 (Post 1597504)

Interesting Ted, not sure I would have recognized the markings for what they are if I had seen one in the past. So, based on the copyright date, the card would have been released in a series after the date correct? May be an overly simple question, but not being familiar with the process just looking for confirmation as it seems late in the year to be getting the cards copyrighted.

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1597778)

Thanks Pat for posting these 6 cards having the Copyright stamp on their backs.


Copyright dates on these 6 cards appear to confirm the 2-month period (noted in Post #58)
between when these cards were issued and the Copyright registration date.

Dickey printed on the 1st sheet, issued in Mar 1933.

Collins printed on the 3rd sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Cronin printed on the 3rd sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Maranville printed on the 5th sheet, issued in Apr 1933.

Gehringer printed on the 9th sheet, issued in Aug 1933.

Ott printed on the 10th sheet, issued in Nov 1933.


TED Z
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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1597829)

Ted,
As king pointed out in the archive thread wouldn't the "date of publication"
be when the cards were issued?
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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1597868)

With all due respect, I have to disagree with cmoking. King and I go back 10+ years ago when we did some nice cash/trade deals.

1st......the source(s) of my information regarding issue dates of the 10 (24-card sheets) 1933Goudey series are George Moll (ref. post #31); and,
Bob K (a neighbor who was avid collector of Goudey's). They collected these cards in their younger days, and we talked about this subject in 1981
when I visited with them.

2nd.....For example, check out the Mel Ott card you posted. It's Copyright date is Jan 23, 1934. No way, that the 10th sheet (World Series) cards
were issued that late.As I stated in the 2nd paragraph (post #1) these cards were issued Nov 1933. This is a well known and confirmed fact.


TED Z
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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1597887)

Ted,
It's my understanding that the dates stamped on the backs of the card(s)
is when the Library of congress received them.
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and the date of publication is the date that Goudey gave as the issue date
when they sent them for the copyrights.
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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1596996)

Hi Bryan



There appears to be less Durocher (#106) cards available than there are Lajoie (#106) cards. However, the Lajoie card's story has been "hyped" for decades.

Therefore, this Durocher card's value (plus lower demand) will never approach any considerably high $$$$ value.



Glad to share my Durocher story with you....and, the members of this great forum.





TED Z

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Originally Posted by brob28 (Post 1601012)

I've always liked Schumachers card, looks like he has a lot on his mind. And why not throw one in of the Mickey before Mickey.

Originally Posted by brob28 (Post 1601944)

Here's a few more Ted, I don't know much about Crowder, but he must have been a popular player to warrant two cards in the set. Nice ones Dave.

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1602466)

I dug deep into my archive stacks and came across this Manush color error. It's missing blue ink.

So, although we have said that flawed 1933 Goudey cards are seldom found, I found one.
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...udeymanush.jpg
TED Z
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Originally Posted by brob28 (Post 1607910)

Ted, does that card measure equal to other Goudey's? Any chance it's hand cut? I'd post some more cards, but I'm at work. :D

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1607951)

Hey guys,

Let's continue this Show....show off your Goudey's from any years (1933 - 1941).



TED Z
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Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles (Post 1612463)

I've picked up almost 40 cards to add to my set. I can't understand why so many sellers on eBay and elsewhere only show scans of the fronts. It is so frustrating trying to buy cards with no back scans.