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theres starting to become a branch off of regular grades PSA and the SGC of the world versus centered grades..(when PSA starts to put a 2 digit number next to their grade then ill respect SGC more, you see SGC 88 and 8...but you never see PSA have to put an 88 next to their 8...or whatever number corresponds) you will see centered 5s go for more than 6s....really should be a separate category of 'centered' cards versus the rest... maybe there will be a new good qualifier to say CTR....which adds a point |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-3...4AAOSwFMZWrkuj |
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Yes a 52 topps Mickey mantle SGC 80(6) recently sold for $105k.
Obviously centering brings a premium as the auctions have shown time and time again. |
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Yes, No, Maybe? I just want to make sure I don't sell myself short - or overvalue it... (when the time comes) Is it $20-$30 range or $30-$40+ range (based on last SGC 4) Or hard to tell...you never now - plus prices fluctuate too much on this card..trending way up though |
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Well boys...1 year later and my '52T Mantle is ending tonight (also SGC 50/4, also at Goldin) and unfortunately there are NO fireworks. My centered beauty sitting at $22k. Either the Mantle market is softening, or this is what happens when you don't shill an auction. In either case, somebody is getting a heck of a deal. Didn't expect anything crazy but certainly $25-$30 was my hopes.
https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/lo..._card___sgc_50 |
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I reiterate my statement from the 54k sale |
Careless and stupid
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Apparenrly your server crashed, the minute the market did. |
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That is a beauty and I will be totally surprised if that doesn't sell real close to, or over $30G's. Good luck. |
Hard to know what to conclude other than prices for the 52 Topps Mantle have come down. The SGC 86 and the PSA 6 sold in the auction tonight for significantly less than the exact cards had recently sold for.
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That was a very nice card! |
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As for the PSA 6, it sold almost a year ago for 85K plus the juice whereas the other night it only went for 67K plus the juice, several bids off from the previous sale. Neither sale was the next week and the difference between what the consignor paid for each of these cards and what they got for them was much greater than a 20% swing. |
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Im guessing that the person that consigned the card a year earlier had the card for more than a year. Selling a 40k card in a year to me is a flipper. Again we are talking about the within a range that the sky isnt falling as opposed to ON FIRE analysis. If you can find that the card sold for more prior to that year old sale that would be interesting. Hertiage for example i believe reduces the juice on the consignor if they bought the card at their auction previously. Also we dont know what arrangement on that juice was...if the seller was able to keep 10% of the juice the consignor lost within the 20% range. When you buy and driive a new car off the lot you lose a few k at least on a 50k dollar car. |
The standouts in any grade will always do just fine:
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515 |
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It seems to me the higher the value (amount) the higher the risk and reward. Many collectors can play it safer towards the lower end and still come out ok even if not completely whole. Find a great looking 20k Mantle, in lower grade, and you won't lose too much when you sell it, if anything. Buy a 125k card, which has other comparables and has risen a ton recently, and there can be a swing much larger than the cost of the great looking, 20k Mantle. Spinning the wheel is about right.
And I should add one other thought. At the top of the scale of '52 Mick's, in an 8 or better, that market could still have a ways to go. There seem to be more people with a cool half million to spend than there are cards to be had. Time will tell.... Quote:
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Just a guess, but can the current low/lull not be attributed to the time of the season? I mean Christmas bills are flowing, tax season is coming up (For us Nooks anyways) it's the off season, etc, etc? I know last summer was an anomaly with exceedingly high prices and we seen the correction/bubble burst in the fall, so comparing apples to apples instead of last summer, have the prices really come down that much? Noticed these 3 tonight on PWCC and I thought they received fairly decent bids pretty early in the auction? (8 days yet to go) Not speculating, but maybe, now that people are getting out of their Christmas bills, etc, things may be starting to pick up again?:confused: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...EAAOSwopRYjjg7 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...sAAOSwNnRYjjhK http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...wAAOSwjDZYjjhL |
An sgc 4 for 12.5k? Buy the holder
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This "fireworks" thread was started at the exact same time last year. So the time of year probably doesn't matter. People dropping that kind of coin aren't affected by Christmas shopping.
eBay is a shillers paradise I would never trust those prices. Anybody can bid and retract with no recourse |
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For t206 green ty cobbs the 'key' grade would be in a '5' for the 52 mantle, it may be in an '8'... |
My hypothesis is correct so far on my '52 selling in PWCC. At this point it is about 20% higher than the SGC 50 (4) and I believe it is because the 2.5 has better eye appeal (I am biased but it does). It might not end that way but that is the way it is now. I absolutely agree there is more volatility the higher grade you go. For collectors I think the 20k range is a safe bet on a great looking, but technically lower grade Mick. If someone pays 125k for Mick in a 6 holder....the next sale could easily be for more or less than the whole value of a great looking 2.5.....
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