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Seriously, where does everyone stand on this? Still a little concerning....
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I think David clearly showed the shill bidding by the OP, unless I am reading it incorrectly :) |
What a great debut single
The OP made. Gonig to be a top 5 smash
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Of course, it would be tough to accept the fact that someone so honest, hard-working, innovative, knowledgeable and reputable as Mr. Pankiewicz could stoop to such a level as to actually shill bid one of his own auctions. Let it be known that this should not be construed as an attack ( :eek: ) , but rather a statement of fact and my incredulous disbelief that someone who happens to have a long resume of accomplishments in the sportscard industry, has hundreds of long-time customers that enjoy buying from him and selling to him, and has made a countless number of friends that are big names and small names in the industry that respect him as a reputable sportscard dealer, would actually artificially inflate the bidding on one of his auctions. WOW! |
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David, how do you know...
serious question from a naïve person:
how do you know that gpark73 = that 9***8 or whatever shows up in the bidding history? Thanks, JasonL |
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Because he was the winning bidder and the user ID of the winning bidder is 9***8 Greg |
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This guy is as arrogant as they come. Not only does he demand that the other thread's title be changed (as if he should have a say one way or the other), but then he comes here and makes his own thread proclaiming himself to be holier than thou.
He didn't address any of the issues specifically, but gave some generic reasoning that he really seems to believe makes everything okay. Something stinks in here - S.haun F.yffe |
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My question is this. What caused the reduction in the severity of the ink drag mark on the back of the Camille Henry card? And similarly what caused the reduction in blue ink spatters on the front of the O'Rourke? Both cards are shown before and after in this thread http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174534 Are you saying the cards are unaltered? Steve B |
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Plain and simple
If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....
and if she weighs the same as a duck then.... |
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She's a witch! |
The differences in the O'Rourke along the right border are pretty dramatic, I doubt a scanner could account for them especially as the scans seems to be at the same settings otherwise.
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You're getting sued too.
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full names in this thread
Everyone will need their first and last name by their post(s) in this thread or in their sig line etc..., if it isn't there already etc. If their full name isn't in there, they can edit their comments out, put their name in the post or I will put their name in it. :). Nothing personal. Thanks everyone.
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Note: I reduced the size of the images. If you go back to the thread and look at the supersized images, it's even more obvious. |
Curiously, the flip is whiter/brighter in the 8 scan. Is it safe to assume PSA used the same paper stock for both of those flips?
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I doubt he will post again as his response was lackluster. Although he is logged in and reading this thread as I type. Probably raised more questions than before. Here are a few ?'s I'd be interested to know:
1) The current business relationship between Rick and Joe? 2) The reason he left SGC as a grader? 3) Why he bid on cards that he won previously from Rick in a new higher grade? 4) Curious as hell to see what SGC deems on another look at the 34 Gehrig? In relation to question 3: http://tinyurl.com/n26j9a3 http://tinyurl.com/n72kbpg And I did find it funny he changed his ebay ID when things were heating up, probably just pure coincidence :rolleyes: |
lawyers
How come everybody on this board, except me, has a lawyer? I do have a dude that delivers my milk every Tuesday.
Cheers, Geno |
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To Geno
I'm not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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I don't know...from the "Lebron James" type title...to the lame, BS explanation that doesn't explain anything...I find Joe's explanation to be lacking any real substance...and as stated he failed to address any legitimate concerns!
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Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
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Just now reading the opening post, in my opinion based on the scan, the Art Shell PSA 10 was clearly overgraded based on the bottom left corner.
What's bothersome is that a person who claims to have been a professional grader should have clearly seen upon inspection with the training of a professional grader that this card was overgraded. Rather than correct the oversight with PSA, he chose to make a huge profit on the card. As stated by many others, there were other salient issues, arguably more serious than bumps on crackouts that were never addressed, which I find rather disturbing. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1973-Topps-Fo...LLw~~60_57.JPG |
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As far as changing anything else or stepping in, I always prefer not to. A forum member can generally edit their responses if they want to. It's part of the forum and the way it's always been. |
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I'm half asleep, so please bear with me, but I felt compelled to see where this discussion has gone in the last few hours.
Have we really gotten to the point where we can take the same card, submit it to PSA three times (without making a single alteration, or even a pencil mark erasure), and get three vastly different grades? I understand no matter how stringent the guidelines are for grading at a given tpg, there's always going to be a human element. Mistakes are going to be made, especially considering the sheer volume of cards being handled and graded. But what does it say about the quality of PSA's service when three different individuals (hypothetically speaking), all of them well educated, and with thousands of hours of practical experience in their chosen field, could have such varied opinions on the same piece? PSA is supposed to be the industry leader. There's only so many variables involved in grading. To use an analogy, when you have a prize fight, you'll have three different judges sitting ring side. A boxing match can go up to twelve rounds, three minutes each. Even with all that's going on, the judges at the end of the match will present their cards, and while there will be some variance in scores, they are usually pretty damned close. There's no flurry of activity in grading a card. These graders are looking at one card. They will have magnification to see every detail. They'll have ideal lighting to view the card. So how could three so called "experts" have such wildly different opinions? How the hell would that possible? Do the graders not have sufficient time to examine the card as needed? I thought, too, that each card was viewed by multiple graders. If one grader is off in their opinion, wouldn't the second opinion normalize the skewed marks? If I'm a grader, and somebody sends me a card that is going to sell for five figures, I'm going to take the time necessary to critique every element of the card accurately, knowing full well that the amount of money changing hands is directly tied to my efforts. This is not right. It just isn't. This doesn't pass the smell test. |
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To your surprise I do everything I can to maintain the integrity of marriage, I do not condone cheating nor do I promote it. I do not host parties for swingers, I don't participate in porn sites nor do I condone prostitution. I do not do anything that sacrifices the original integrity of our vows...all a bunch of BS, just like this response. He isn't denying erasing anything or removing any marks, as long he doesn't "power erase" cards, whatever that means. |
Power erasing is actually erasing large portions of the border of a picture to improve the centering, such as on a 57 Topps, an art form mastered by certain card doctors in the 90s. I think PSA became hip to it so not sure it is still going on.
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Peter, Peter, cardboard dealer
Had a card that was a tweener Cracked it out and did resend Two grades higher??? Nuf ced! |
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