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Wymers Auction 05-08-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jgmp123 (Post 991387)
DK Listings is a huge offender...once a week they are peddling garbage...tons of Morales and Nick Burkskskdkfhfk (however it's spelled)

I come from the same part of town as DK Listing. I bought a set of 1948 Swell cards from them and even those were counterfeit. I have never bought anything else from them their autos are always a joke. They were not willing to refund me even after I proved that the Swell cards were counterfeit. A little info for you Chris as far as I know nobody that works for DK has an auctioneers license so they should not even be allowed on Proxibid to begin with.

thetruthisoutthere 05-08-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 991405)
I come from the same part of town as DK Listing. I bought a set of 1948 Swell cards from them and even those were counterfeit. I have never bought anything else from them their autos are always a joke. They were not willing to refund me even after I proved that the Swell cards were counterfeit. A little info for you Chris as far as I know nobody that works for DK has an auctioneers license so they should not even be allowed on Proxibid to begin with.

James, so you're the one that left them that negative comment on YP about the counterfeit Swell cards.

GrayGhost 05-08-2012 07:11 PM

All Joking aside. To Chris , Richard, Trav, David and others. These are SO BAD. Sharpie Gehrigs. HIDEOUS forgeries, all in same pen/hand. Cant they really be shut down by the Police? ITS REALLY DISGUISTING:mad:

thetruthisoutthere 05-08-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 991428)
All Joking aside. To Chris , Richard, Trav, David and others. These are SO BAD. Sharpie Gehrigs. HIDEOUS forgeries, all in same pen/hand. Cant they really be shut down by the Police? ITS REALLY DISGUISTING:mad:

Scott, we did get Proxibid to remove the entire catalog of auctions listed by LLP Auctions. Also realize, that their address is a box that resides in a UPS store.

GrayGhost 05-08-2012 07:47 PM

Oh, I must not have seen that. Thanks. and thats good news at least.

Wymers Auction 05-08-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 991411)
James, so you're the one that left them that negative comment on YP about the counterfeit Swell cards.

Yes, I also reported them to the Better Business Bureau. I considered filing suit, but I am to busy running my own business for that.

jgmp123 05-08-2012 08:15 PM

Here's another great one from Proxibid: https://www.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=52565
All the balls come with COA's from Morales and Florida's own YMC Sports....
Also appears all the balls were signed with the same pen.

And this reoccurring beauty: https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDeta...45411#topoflot

Deertick 05-08-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jgmp123 (Post 991464)
Here's another great one from Proxibid: https://www.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=52565
All the balls come with COA's from Morales and Florida's own YMC Sports....
Also appears all the balls were signed with the same pen.

And this reoccurring beauty: https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDeta...45411#topoflot

Had these same things in Tampa at a local auction. IDENTICAL Marino, Bauer/Skowron, and I believe Mantle/ DiMaggio.

Wymers Auction 05-08-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 991470)
Had these same things in Tampa at a local auction. IDENTICAL Marino, Bauer/Skowron, and I believe Mantle/ DiMaggio.

Thing that drives me crazy with them is that they already had a great auction Rolex, coins, etc. They really did not need these!!! This is a much more practiced hand then what we were viewing before.

thetruthisoutthere 05-09-2012 09:25 AM

Aaron Joseph & Company Mickey Mantle CSC Collectibles
 
We have been exposing the forgeries listed by auctioneers under the Proxibid.com platform.

One of those auctioneers is Aaron Joseph & Company, Tallahassee FL who is selling some Mantle, Williams, DiMaggio, etc. forgeries with a COA from "CSC Collectibles."

Here is their YouTube video for the aforementioned items:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44IwThaoxdU

thetruthisoutthere 05-09-2012 09:28 AM

Aaron Joseph & Company Mickey Mantle CSC Collectibles
 
2 Attachment(s)
A photo of one of their listings.

Attachment 63087

Attachment 63088

Deertick 05-09-2012 10:06 AM

How about we end this thread
 
We were able to handle LLP Auctions, these others deserve their own scrutiny. We don't want to muddy the waters for outing these forgeries.

thetruthisoutthere 05-09-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 991588)
We were able to handle LLP Auctions, these others deserve their own scrutiny. We don't want to muddy the waters for outing these forgeries.

Jim, if you want to start a new thread on Aaron Joseph & Company, Dixon's Auction Inc., etc., I will certainly follow.

thetruthisoutthere 05-09-2012 11:40 AM

Jim, I think you're right. We should end it here. I'll be writing blogs for another site on the other sellers who use the Proxibid platform.

Mr. Zipper 05-09-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 991579)
A photo of one of their listings.

Attachment 63087

Attachment 63088

Anyone ever call the number on the CSC cert?

drc 05-09-2012 10:16 PM

Yes. I ordered a large cheese with pepperoni and green peppers.

Wymers Auction 05-09-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 991625)
Jim, I think you're right. We should end it here. I'll be writing blogs for another site on the other sellers who use the Proxibid platform.

Will you let us know the location of the blog?

Mr. Zipper 05-10-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by drc (Post 991838)
Yes. I ordered a large cheese with pepperoni and green peppers.

Did a fake pizza arrive? :)

thetruthisoutthere 05-10-2012 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 991840)
Will you let us know the location of the blog?

http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...atan-va-mickey

thetruthisoutthere 05-10-2012 08:53 AM

LLP Auctions, Tampa FL, just re-listed all of that crap under the Proxibid platform.

I had a feeling they were going to do that, that's why I checked the link again.

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=52487

thetruthisoutthere 05-10-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 991925)
LLP Auctions, Tampa FL, just re-listed all of that crap under the Proxibid platform.

I had a feeling they were going to do that, that's why I checked the link again.

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=52487

It looks like the LLP Auctions catalog reappeared but no one is able to bid on the auctions. Weird how the catalog reappeared.

Wymers Auction 05-10-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 991926)
It looks like the LLP Auctions catalog reappeared but no one is able to bid on the auctions. Weird how the catalog reappeared.

Bidding begins in an hour and 44 minutes and ends Sunday. All they did is take out the COA pictures and they are in compliance. I am calling Proxibid.com about this in the morning.

Wymers Auction 05-10-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jgmp123 (Post 991174)
This guy was lucky enough to find Stan and Yogi in the same place with that same bright blue pen...

These guys should be put in jail as soon as possible.

And the same horrible handwriting!!! Imagine the coincidence!

jgmp123 05-10-2012 05:30 PM

I really can't believe they have the nuggets to re-list all of those items without the COA's... James, I can't wait to hear what Proxibid has to say...

Wymers Auction 05-10-2012 05:45 PM

James Graham I am going to try to get them removed from the site all together.

thetruthisoutthere 05-10-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 992055)
Bidding begins in an hour and 44 minutes and ends Sunday. All they did is take out the COA pictures and they are in compliance. I am calling Proxibid.com about this in the morning.

James, are you saying that those are valid auctions?

Deertick 05-10-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 992055)
Bidding begins in an hour and 44 minutes and ends Sunday. All they did is take out the COA pictures and they are in compliance. I am calling Proxibid.com about this in the morning.

I don't recall that the original photos had COA's showing. Description just said they had COA's. Same as now. All I see is they removed the Gehrig and added some more....

thetruthisoutthere 05-10-2012 07:15 PM

I certainly hope Proxibid removes those auctions and boots that seller. If not, I'm going to give them the kind of free advertising they won't like. I will give James time to convince them to pull that garbage.

Wymers Auction 05-10-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 992083)
James, are you saying that those are valid auctions?

Yes, they are only under the ban if they have a photo of the coa posted.

RichardSimon 05-10-2012 09:11 PM

They never had a COA picture.
Can you bid with them now?
It appeared you might not be able to bid.
The auction page states:
PASSED
This lot was not sold.

They use past tense,, not sold,, I think the auction is not active.

jgmp123 05-10-2012 09:31 PM

These lots are very much still active. I just logged in and placed a $1 bid on the hideous Tony Gwynn ball....
https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDeta...01532#topoflot

thecatspajamas 05-10-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 992110)
Yes, they are only under the ban if they have a photo of the coa posted.

James, from what you posted over in the Proxibid thread, it doesn't matter if there is a photo of the COA or if it is verbally stated:

"Any sellers listing items that have been authenticated by the above organizations will have those lots removed from their auction. If any lots do not specify the authenticator and show a picture of the certificate/letter of authenticity, the lot will be removed from the auction. Additionally, Proxibid reserves the right to pull a lot from an auction if they find that the authenticator is not reputable."

The part about the photo just specifies that the seller cannot get away with showing the bad COA in a photo without mentioning it in the description.

GrayGhost 05-11-2012 05:51 AM

Im glad they are still up. Im psyched to be able to bid on the Jeter:o

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDeta...01527#topoflot

thetruthisoutthere 05-11-2012 06:07 AM

LLP Auctions Tampa Florida Lou Gehrig Forgery Fake Forgery
 
The auctions listed under the Proxibid platform by LLP Auctions are live!!!!

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/Catalog.asp?aid=52773

Deertick 05-11-2012 07:02 AM

Just submitted a complaint to the IC3

Fuddjcal 05-11-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 992174)
The auctions listed under the Proxibid platform by LLP Auctions are live!!!!

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/Catalog.asp?aid=52773

of course they are...what did you think, they were going to have someone police their site like e-bay.:D They would have to hire a full time authenticator. To pull forgeries from that platform will not happen too quickly, but the work you all have been doing to get them to see the big picture is admirable!!!

Keep up the good fight all!

Wymers Auction 05-11-2012 10:30 AM

I just got a text from the auction company LLP that their autos have been authenticated and to stop harassing them. They said that the Gehrig was an error. I asked them who authenticated these items and there was silence.

Wymers Auction 05-11-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 992172)
Im glad they are still up. Im psyched to be able to bid on the Jeter:o

https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDeta...01527#topoflot

I think you can bid a penny!!! I was also banned from their auctions SO SAD!!!!

Deertick 05-11-2012 10:50 AM

They appear to be getting removed as we speak!


GONE!

jgmp123 05-11-2012 11:00 AM

Just got this email from the bid I placed earlier to test if they were live or not...
Your bid was retracted on the following lot:

------------------------------------------------------------
LLP Auctions
AUTOGRAPHED SPORTS MEMORABILIA AUCTION!* 5/10/2012

Wymers Auction 05-11-2012 11:14 AM

You cannot even see their company page anymore. I asked that they be removed from proxibid.com all together.

Wymers Auction 05-11-2012 11:18 AM

They are gone I am taking a nap!!! Whew!!!!

RichardSimon 05-11-2012 12:52 PM

Very well done, Jim.
Welcome to the war :).

thetruthisoutthere 05-11-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 992307)
Very well done, Jim.
Welcome to the war :).

Ditto!!!

Yes, welcome to the war.

Wymers Auction 05-11-2012 02:31 PM

Chris and Richard I have a different respect for you guys today!!! Thanks

Wymers Auction 05-11-2012 02:41 PM

Thanks Deertick and everyone involved.

thetruthisoutthere 05-11-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 992338)
Chris and Richard I have a different respect for you guys today!!! Thanks

Thank you very much, James. I've been doing this for over eight years and Richard's been doing it longer than I have.

Bilko G 05-11-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wymers Auction (Post 992277)
They are gone I am taking a nap!!! Whew!!!!

NICE JOB:cool:

HOFAUTOS 05-11-2012 04:04 PM

Good job gentleman!

Fuddjcal 05-12-2012 10:33 AM

I have to say a great job....for now. But what have you done for me lately!!!:D

They'll have 3 more Loser, LLP's tomorrow with the same stuff!!!!!!

keep on them like flies on S***:D:D:D


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