Funny, I was wondering to myself today what the cost of buying someones sense of morality would be...apparently it's $5.:D

Good luck with your business model but these are such terrible looking "aged reprints" that I don't think they will be fooling too many people out there-probably a bummer for you. Honestly, I'm not really sure what you are getting out of all this as I don't see it being worth ANYONES time and effort to make these things for the big $5 (shipped) payday that awaits you. How can you attack someone elses profession in any way when you are willing to do this for a mere $5 (shipped)?

What is wrong with a Camry ?

Yikes- I didn't know that this thread was going on until just now...and come to think of it it's a good thing.

This idiot should be banned for any number of reasons, among them posting pictures of Nazis (or whatever), bringing up politics and religion, selling worthless reprints, and all that without posting his name on the board. You can't do this anonymously- that's a board rule.

And the fact that you are clueless about just about everything may not break any rules, but you need to go. Have you ever made a post on this board other than this thread? You need to put these little gems on craigslist, not here.

lol

I was stating a relevant point to the topic at hand. We left on good terms

"Have you ever made a post on this board other than this thread?"

I think the fact that this has turned into a refreshing discussion instead of the original advertisement it was is a neat thing. I believe I have respected the opinions on here about reprint cards and haven't posted anymore reprints for sale on this site. You guys were right, i have not made many sales on here. But I have enjoyed the conversation it has become. You only stay away from politics and religion with family.

A refreshing discussion? It's hard to look away when you see a train wreck ...

...and forums that expressly state in their rules "Politics and religion are not permitted".

Those rules also state "You may remain anonymous as long your post is not controversial or confrontational" - I'm thinkin' that boat has pretty well sailed?

Anonymity
 

Not to excuse some of the nauseating posts by the OP but he did identify himself in his first post very clearly.

Whats this with identifying myself? is there something i didnt complete?

Whats this with identifying myself? is there something i didnt complete?

As a Tax Attorney and not a CPA, I will tell you that you are wrong when you talk about all the Gray Area. The Law is very clear, it is how a person with an agenda (like sheltering as much money as possible or perhaps violating copyright law to make a $5 windfall) can interpret the Law that makes it gray. You can get into all sorts of debates about "What constitutes Entertainment Expenses" and "Meals" if you want to but have those discussions with a certified Tax Lawyer, maybe even one teaches the subject at a Law School, and I promise you the gray fades to nice shades of dark black and bright white. Just because you dont get audited by the IRS and get put in a position where you have to try and defend your practices does not mean the practice is condoned or right.

Just thought I would chime in as someone who knows a thing or two about Tax Law, at least more than the average H&R block worker or maybe an expert without a ton of tact.

Rhys Yeakley
Tax Lawyer
Former IRS Worker
Repro Card Hater

Derek- and I see you did put your first name out there- one of the most outrageous things anyone can do is trivialize the holocaust. When you compare the people on this board asking you not to sell reprints, to Nazi bookburning, you show an absolute lack of understanding history. Why don't you read a book or two about World War II and the holocaust before ever making such a horrific comparison again.

And on a lesser note, when a baseball card has the word "reprint" on the back, never ever remove it. You know that someone down the food chain is going to get burned for paying a lot of money for it because he thinks it may be real.

rarerookies,

I know someone who is willing to buy your cards; money is no object to him.

Coincidentally, he had a similar hobby as yours - he took "reprints" of U.S. currency and artificially aged each piece to give it that well-worn look that you strive for with your items.

The only thing he asks is if you can hold the cards for him until he makes parole in February.

LMK if you are interested...

I thought it was message board received wisdom that when a thread degenerates into Nazi references, it's time for it to go.

My apologies if I missed something, but I only saw a first name - Leon has said, and I quote, you "need to put your full name on the board" when your posts are "controversial or confrontational".

You're correct Karl...but my guess is Derek will not continue posting here.

see Godwin's Law. This one sure didn't take too long!

Wow I figured that you guys were done. ,lol. I'd like to make the statement about whoever thought I brought up the holocaust. Seriously how does murder relate to the topic at hand? I didn't bring up the holocaust I brought up what the nazi's did during there time of control like socialism in ussr or china. Restrict information and tell the people what they can and can't do.

Some of you guys gave those very same views that ignited socialism.
Ban everything that we don't agree with. Next thing i'll hear is you guys are in favor over socialized healthcare.

The Adam Moraine Law
 

Leon: Wasn't there a forum rule regarding the minimum IQ required for posting on Net54?

I'm pretty sure you are correct, but when Bruce "left" the average IQ on both the "active" and "suspended" lists went way up, so we may have some wiggle room here.

I am the one giving historical information and providing facts for my opinions You are the one making slanderous remarks. So if IQ # is the status quo for this board, then maybe you should refrain from posting remarks.

Derek- insults aside, your insight into what is really going on in this country, based on your very misdirected posts, is truly alarming. Why don't you try reading a few books- I know that is a terribly elitist concept- before you start preaching to educated board members about socialism. Thank you.

Derek: When Sarah Palin is President in a couple of years the American Khmer Rouge will round up guys like me, Jim and Barry and shoot us. No worries.

wow
 

So I drove to Houston and back yesterday, to see family. It was 9 hours on the road and we had a good time.
I didn't even see this thread until just now. For the record the original poster registered with the name "Derek Masters" so I will assume that is who he is. I am a bit on the fence about what to do with the whole scenario. I don't think banning is usually a good solution.

Derek- we don't talk about politics, religion or anyone's family members on this board. The last one will get anyone banned quicker than anything else. I am against these fakes because, as most have alluded to, eventually they will end up with someone buying the card for their spouse and getting burned, or something like that. Now, if they clearly say "reprint" on them, then I don't have as much of a problem. Also, we have a ton of Jewish members on the board (as well as all other religions and denominations too) so any trivializing of the Holocaust is not going to be well received. Lets keep it about cards and there won't need to be moderating intervention. best regards

David- when Sarah Palin becomes president I will be moving to the Belgian Congo, so they won't be able to find me.

way to catch up on the thread barry!!

attaboy. keep on with those insights

Well, as I suspected we are going to get nowhere. So good luck selling your reprints.

Bump. As the OP said, "great gift idea" :rolleyes:

I don't know if anyone else is in agreement with me, but I think the OP is simply a troll. I believe his only purpose is to stir the pot and get everyone here fired up. Who else but a troll would start his membership here by alienating everyone from the beginning. This site is home to many hobby heavyweights and to insult these people like he does strikes me as confusing, unless he's a troll!

Awesome thread. Derek, I could care less one way or another about your reprints but you've spent an awful amount of time in order to make $5. Are things that slow?

I think the OP might be from Chicago and once owned a nice back collection for about a month before going into the fraud print business.

Seriously, if you're not in favor of either the selling of reprints here or the thoughts and messages of the OP, the best thing you can do it ignore this thread, stop bumping it and let it -- and the OP -- fall off the board.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd guess most people wouldn't have as big a problem with these if the original reprint writing was left on during the aging process. I'd bet most here don't have as big a problem with reprints that are clearly marked. The biggest issue here, I believe, is that these appear created to deceive. Even if the OP is listing them as reprints and selling as such, others won't.

I've bought t206 reprints on this site and no one ever attacked that seller. However, the cards were all clearly marked as reprints. The OP clearly has been stirring the pot in his defense of these cards whether intentional or not.


Personally I have a project that I'd like to do and can't afford and don't want to use originals for it and these reprints would work nicely. I was at a sportsbar where I noticed the tables had cards laminated in some way into the surface. The cards used were like 1994 UD or something, but I thought it might be cool to do something similar witha coffee table and vintage reprints. The cost for originals would be too much and I wouldn't want to destroy them in a table. That's why I previously expressed interest in the cards.

I smell Peter Chao or whatever his name was. Seems to be just egging everyone on.

Chao never owned any cards this nice!

It is?:confused::confused:

Hey Leon.

You may remove my membership from your Forum. Thank you guys for some good discussions. Happy collecting

derek

"I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. "
— Hunter S. Thompson

"Everybody is a horse's ass except for me and Ed Smith."
— Albert M. Yost

LOL I had (almost) forgotten all about that guy!

I might've been interested in an aged Lard Jusberg rookie repro.

I actually watched Peter Chao buy a '63 Topps Mantle at card show, so I know he owned at least one nice card. Plus, from what I recall, all Peter did was ask a lot of annoying questions. This guy thinks he knows all the answers, which in my mind is far more irritating ...

As for selling reprints here, it seems to me like the "Everything Else" category is most appropriate place to sell these things. I still don't like them, but I agree they would make nice wall paper or a laminated counter top to spill beer on ...

you guys are fun to talk to. with your fact-less opinions on things. socialism is the way to go huh. if you dont like it then opinions have to go. Why dont while you guys are wiping your ass with the constitution you go ahead and wipe you ass with the bill of rights.

It's NOT your opinions we dislike. It's the fact that you have created something that has the potential to do harm to the hobby we love.

I think this thread has gotten a bit out of hand. I don't think anyone ever said you CAN'T sell reprints, it certainly is not illegal. I believe the overwhelming opinion on this board is that they are harmful when not marked properly as such and altered to look as if they are "vintage". Obviously, as in life, many have opinions, some stronger than others. In my opinion, it just seems that this sort of product does not go over very well here. I am sure you can see how producing such cards could be construed by some as dangerous and deceitful, can't you? I certainly would leave religion and politics out of any argument here, that will get you absolutely nowhere.

His opinions aren't so hot either. Yes, and the cards are bad too. And these are his first posts on the board. Nothing good has come out of this thread.

I can understand how someone can get burned buying a fake card but a fake rolex ?

So what exactly is your defense for selling the below card in one of your storefronts?

http://www.atomicmall.com/seller.php?id=62383

http://www.atomicmall.com/cpic/28/62383-1289865483.jpg

Horrible stuff here.