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mikedenero 07-10-2009 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=Rob D.;735235 My modus operandi has been, for the most part, to buy or trade for things with the intent of keeping them a long time. I know what I enjoy collecting and owning, so there are few instances in which I decide to get rid of something I've acquired.[/QUOTE]

Great comment. As a former collector and now a dealer, I have always tried to follow the philosophy to never buy a card unless I would be comfortable holding it for five years. Whenever I have wavered from that fairly disciplined approach, I have typically regretted my actions. As for buying what's "hot"; I'd rather own what's timeless!

kcohen 07-10-2009 07:29 PM

"Buy high, sell low--not a formula for success..."

Unless you make it up on volume. :)

SteveVerkman 07-10-2009 07:50 PM

Brilliant Point
 
I think that Peter Spaeth's point about anonymity with grading and auctions is absolutely brilliant and something that never occurred to me in those terms.

This is also true for autographed items and single signed balls with removals - knowing the owner of the item often makes it easier to get a feel for the piece and possibly its history. I suppose there is no way around this with current auctions as consignors naturally want to remain anonymous...

calvindog 07-10-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botn (Post 735240)
Jeff,

I was the consignor of the Cobb in Mastro's April 06 and was paid for the card.

Greg

Wow, so we've got two of the four sales covered, the first and last -- but these were the most likely to be legit. What are the odds the other two are real?

botn 07-10-2009 10:58 PM

Maybe it was Wes who won the card from the Sept 07 auction which would leave one auction unexplained. If not, it would be interesting to know who Wes bought the card from.

Peter_Spaeth 07-18-2009 03:07 PM

World Wide Dimaggio PSA 4.
Currently offered in Memory Lane.
http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...p?itemid=14279

Just sold May 8 in Goodwin, image not available on his site but according to VCP image it is the SAME card.
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail2.aspx?lotid=10092

botn 07-18-2009 05:13 PM

Peter,

I would check with Charlie about that one.

Peter_Spaeth 07-18-2009 05:16 PM

I would hate to think JP will need to get 17.5 percent higher just for the consignor to break even on his purchase from two short months ago, but I guess that is how it is ..... unless of course this is a "door #2" situation.

Cat 07-19-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 736932)
World Wide Dimaggio PSA 4.
Currently offered in Memory Lane.
http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...p?itemid=14279

Just sold May 8 in Goodwin, image not available on his site but according to VCP image it is the SAME card.
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail2.aspx?lotid=10092

I do know who bought this from Memory Lane. It was legit.

Peter_Spaeth 07-19-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat (Post 737033)
I do know who bought this from Memory Lane. It was legit.

It is now being OFFERED by Memory Lane, was previously SOLD by Goodwin.

Cat 07-19-2009 10:48 AM

I think there website is in a state of flux. This was sold in December. Lot 49 in the current auction is a Red Man I believe.

http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...etauctionid=70

Peter_Spaeth 07-19-2009 11:23 AM

Cat I don't follow you. The Dimaggio is lot 246 in the current Memory Lane.

Leon 07-19-2009 11:56 AM

auction site is acting weird
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 737044)
Cat I don't follow you. The Dimaggio is lot 246 in the current Memory Lane.

Their auction site has 2 different cards, in the same lot, going at the same time. The site is either messed up right now or there are 2 different auctions going on at the same time? I am going with the former...Probably when someone was adding lots something got twisted.....it happens. Unless someone comes up with a better explanation (and they very well might) then that is my guess....and it is a true guess as I can't tell the nature of the issue right now...(except of course the Id's are different?)

http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...etauctionid=70

http://www.memorylaneinc.com/site/bi...p?itemid=14082

Cat 07-19-2009 11:57 AM

Edited: since Leon provided the discrepancy with less bandwidth

Leon 07-19-2009 12:00 PM

Cat
 
The end time (8-8-2009) is incorrect, is the problem, with the one you just showed....but you probably saw that. It can't be closed and open at the same time...

Cat 07-19-2009 12:05 PM

Yes, the one identified as lot 49 ended in December. I am not sure about the lot number but that card sold in December.

Peter_Spaeth 07-19-2009 12:47 PM

Irrespective of the Lot 49 confusion, Lot 246 is the PSA 4 DiMaggio-- the same card that sold in Goodwin two months ago.

Jim VB 07-19-2009 12:47 PM

Looks to me like it sold in December (Memory Lane, lot #49), again in May at Goodwin AND is back in the current Memory Lane auction (lot #246).

Matt 07-19-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 737058)
Looks to me like it sold in December (Memory Lane, lot #49), again in May at Goodwin AND is back in the current Memory Lane auction (lot #246).

Good call. I wonder why VCP isn't showing the December 08 sale.

botn 07-19-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 737058)
Looks to me like it sold in December (Memory Lane, lot #49), again in May at Goodwin AND is back in the current Memory Lane auction (lot #246).

WHAT? And JP did not get Joe Orlando to recert the card?

Peter_Spaeth 08-04-2009 02:44 PM

Speaking of JP, interesting that all three PSA 9 Red Man Mays cards in his current auction were also in his September 08 auction. Once again, the consignor needs to improve those very strong prices by 17.5 percent just to break even.

Jim VB 08-04-2009 02:59 PM

I noticed a 1914 Boston Garter Lajoie in the Goodwin booth. I pointed it out to Rob D. He recalled that it had sold in the February Goodwin auction for about $8500 with the juice.

Asking price at the show? $9900, almost exactly 17.5% more.

What recession? ;)

Misunderestimated 08-04-2009 02:59 PM

In this economy, for many people, .... Door number 2 is often the only way out.....

Peter_Spaeth 08-04-2009 03:17 PM

I am told that a U.S. Caramel Jones that just quote unquote sold in Bill's just-ended auction was available on his table at the National. Those danged reneggers. :)

calvindog 08-04-2009 03:53 PM

Damn those reneggers! Memory Lane, Mastro/Legendary, Goodwin...lots of reneggers. How did REA sell $47 million in cards and only have one renegger? Those other fellows must sure be unlucky.

Potomac Yank 08-04-2009 09:30 PM

I Ask You?
 
Can we possibly find more of a fun read in the Wall Street Journal? :)


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