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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanx Lee for the inputs.<br /><br />Come on guys, we need more inputs....check-out your "magnificent" T206 cards<br />and let's get some meaningful data to the above question ? ?<br /><br />If a silly BARRY (Bonds) thread can generate 300+ responses on this Forum,<br />then why can't we get at least 100+ responses to this BARRY Arnold Thread ?<br /><br />After all, this is meaningful stuff to us "obsessive" T206 collectors.<br /><br />So far we have.....<br /><br />Player.....150....350....EPDG....HINDU<br /><br />Ames.......16............................2<br /><br />Doyle.......16............................2<br /><br />Ewing.......15.................3.........1<br /><br />Jones.......16.................1..........3<br /><br />Lindaman..16.................3.........5<br /><br />Lundgren...18.......1........4.........0<br /><br />Schulte.....19.................0.........2<br /><br />Totals......116.......1.......11........15
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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> The kids wore me out at the pool yesterday, and I'm slammed at work this morning, but I will post as much as I can tonight. <br /> Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS I need more free time.........
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Posted By: <b>Ray Piskadlo</b><p>In my collection, Lindaman, Ewing, Doyle (throwing), and Lundgren (Cubs)... all Piedmont or Sweet Cap 150.
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Posted By: <b>Betty D</b><p>My TOm Jones (ST Louis) is EPDG, one of 6 EPDG in my collection of 550+ total cards (the others: Magee with Bat, Hallman, Ganley, Davidson & Burchell). Both my Lundgren Chicago and Lindaman are Piedmont 150.
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Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>In my collection<br /><br />Ames&Doyle are Hindu<br />Ewing,Jones and Lindaman are SC 150<br />Lungren is Piedmont 150<br />Schulte 2-Pied and SC 150
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanx....Ray....Betty....Jim<br /><br />Your data has been tabulated. its nice to see more EPDG and HINDU backs on<br />these cards.<br /><br />And, so far no additional "350 Subjects" backs.<br /><br />Keep the data rollng guys.....there are many of you with formidable T206<br />collections on this Forum.......let's hear from you ?
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>heck, not sure what ya'll are doing but here's my few types of backs from t206's....if there's more info you need just ask and I will get it this evening....right now I am working <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> (I left the prices I paid....and have acquired them over the last 5-8 yrs)..nothing special<br /><br /><br />T206 Old Mill Coles fr 30<br />T206 Polar Bear Knight vg 30<br />T206 Amer.Beauty Schlei vg 70.<br /> ..460 subjects<br />T206 Amer.Beauty Nichols vg-ex 70.<br /> ..350 Subjects<br />T206 Amer.Beauty Strang vg-ex 70.<br /> ..350 Sub.-ornate borders<br />T206 Sovereign150 Davis gd-vg 28.<br />T206 SOvereign350 Birmingham vg 27<br />T206 Sovereign460 Herzog gd+ 30.<br />T206 Broadleaf350 Moeller-NJ gd-vg 20.<br />T206 Carolina Br. Mcaleese vg-ex 70<br />T206 Sweet Cap Home Run Baker SGC 70 175.<br /> ..350-460<br />T206 EPDG Magee vg 20<br />T206 Cycle-460 Geyer vg 100<br />T206 Uzit Leach vg-ex 350<br />T206 Lenox Meyers vg-ex 265.<br />T206 Hindu-Brown Marquard-hands/hips GD 75.<br />T206 SweetCap/150 Marquard-hands/hips PSA2 52.<br /> ..factory overprint<br />T206 Pied/350 Wallace-Port. gd-vg 40.<br />T206 Pied/350 Bender port gd + 20<br />T206 Pied/350 Willis pr 10<br />T206 Pied/350 Marquard-Port. GD-VG 75.<br />T206 Pied/350-460 Marquard GD 75.<br /> ..throwing<br />T206 Sweet Cap Mathewson GD-VG 150.<br /> ..350-460 black cap<br />T206 SweetCap/350 Mordecai Brown/port GD mk 50.<br /> ..lt.pencil/back<br />T206 Tolstoi Burch VG 30.<br />
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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>I have a few different backs of HOFers, so perhaps this may help. Look at the bottom of page one and the top of page two.<br /><br /><a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/Cosbro/Collection/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/Cosbro/Collection/</a><br />
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Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>Nothing rare here, but here are my backs.<br /><br />Bush Old Mill<br />Cobb Red Piedmont 350<br />Cobb Green Piedmont 150<br />Cobb Bat on Piedmont 150<br />Cobb bat off Piedmont 350-460<br />Crawford throwing Sovereign 350<br />Crawford batting Piedmont 350-460<br />Donovan Portrait Piedmont 150<br />Donovan Pitching Piedmont 350<br />Jennings Portrait Piedmont 350<br />Jennings Yelling right hand Sweet Caporal 350<br />Jennings both hands Cycle 460<br />Jones Cycle 350<br />Killian portrait Piedmont 350<br />Killian Pitching Piedmont 150<br />McIntyre Piedmont 350<br />Moriarty Piedmont 350<br />Mullen Portrait Piedmont 350<br />Mullen batting Sweet Caporal 340-460<br />Mullen Pitching Sovereign 150<br />O'Leary Portrait Piedmont 350<br />O'Leary Hands on Knees Piedmont 350<br />Rossman Sovereign 350<br />Schaefer Sovereign 150<br />Schmidt Portrait Sweet Caporal 350<br />Schmidt Throwing Sweet Caporal 350<br />Stanage Piedmont 350<br />Summers Piedmont 350<br />Willett batting Piedmont 350<br />Willetts Pitching Sweet Caporal 350<br /><br />Joe
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Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>bergen batting<br />stovall batting<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>cn</b><p> I have the following EPDG,s in my collection , Marquard-hands at waist,Howell hands at waist,Shannon,Tannehill-Washington,Geyer,Stephens,Phillipe. CN
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Ray Piskadlo</b><p>There are two surveys going on it appears...<br /><br />1. How rare are EPDG Backs?<br />2. Ted is tabulating a list of backs for the following cards only:<br /><br />1. Ames (front)<br />2. Doyle (throw)<br />3. Ewing<br />4. Tom Jones (St. Louis)<br />5. Lindaman<br />6. Lundgren (Cubs)<br />7. Schulte (Cubs)
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>LEON<br /><br />Ray correctly described what is happening in this Thread. We have a sub-set<br />of Barry's original topic and that is what additional T206's are found only as<br />150 Subjects cards. There are 9 well-documented cards in this category, and<br />it has been theorized that, perhaps, there are 7 more. <br /><br />This came up early in this Thread and as a consequence I've started tabulating<br />inputs on these 7 cards from Forum members (see above Table). The collective<br />knowledge and T206 collections represented in this Forum is a tremendous<br />resource for a survey like this.<br /><br />I think I probably should have initiated a distinct Thread on this subject, but<br />we all were having a lot of fun....so this is it.<br />
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>Here are the cards that I have with EPDG backs:<br /><br />Ball (Cleveland)<br />Barger<br />Berger<br />Clarke (Pittsburg, Portrait)<br />Delehanty (Washington)<br />Donovan (Portrait)<br />Graham (St. Louis)<br />Kling<br />Lavender<br />Murphy (Batting)<br />Schlafly<br />Tinker (Portrait)<br /><br /><br />Here are the backs that Ted is tracking:<br /><br />Ames (Hands at Chest) Piedmont 150<br />Doyle (Throwing) Piedmont 150<br />Ewing Sweet Caporal 150 Fac.649<br />Jones Sweet Caporal 150 Fac. 30<br />Jones Sweet Caporal 150 Fac. 649<br />Lindaman Piedmont 150<br />Lundgren Chicago Piedmont 150<br />Schulte Front Piedmont 150<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>steve yawitz</b><p>My Jones is a Sweet Cap 150-Factory 649.
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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I only have one EPDG in my whole collection:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.lewisbaseballcards.com/classes/baseBallCard/images/1032Lg.jpg">
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>It's all good...don't think we will break 300 posts like the Bonds Steroid thread but this one is much more oriented towards what this board is all about. No need to reply but if you need any other info from my few cards let me know. It's pretty funny though....since I posted them I have had a few private emails about selling or trading some..... On the T206's I am only collecting the backs, for the most part, but that certainly wasn't my intention of posting. Did ya see what I had to pay for my Uzit in vg-ex? It was in the same group I got one of my AWH E222's in....and had to pay $200 for it..in gd-vg....those days are over I think....regards
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Posted By: <b>J Hull</b><p>Ted,<br />I've got 2 Lindamans and a Ewing all P150 backs.<br /> <br />And I don't own them, but I believe I've seen Tom Jones with P350 (twice) and EPDG (once) on eBay this year. <br /><br />Jamie
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Posted By: <b>drew</b><p>Hi Everybody<br /><br />I have four EPDG in my T206 collection.<br />Mullin Horizontal<br />Campbell<br />Schlei Catching<br />Weimer<br /><br />150 Series<br />Ames Piedmont SC<br />Doyle Piedmont SC<br />Ewing Piedmont (2)<br />Jones Piedmont Hindu<br />Lindaman Piedmont<br />Lundgren Piedmont<br />Schulte Piedmont<br /><br /><br><br>Drew
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Hey there...<br /><br />I've looked through my T206s, there are about 515 of them...<br /><br />6 are EPDG. And that surprised me, figured there were about a dozen before I saw this thread, and thought there might only be 2 or 3 after reading but before looking. Saw more Cycles than I recalled, and only saw one Hindu, thought I had 3 or 4 of those.<br /><br />Are you wanting to know backs of other cards? Which ones, and I'll dig through them again.<br /><br />Frank.
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks Steve Y., Bill, J Hull, and Drew for your inputs. They have been<br />tabulated.<br /><br />J Hull<br /> I entered the 3 cards you have; but, I did not enter the 3 - Jones' that<br />you noted seeing on ebay since you did not sound too certain. And, since<br />there are 4 - Jones in the set, 3 of which are typically 350 backs, I cannot<br />accept them as valid. So far, I have been tabulating cards that are actually<br />in personal collections. Please understand this.<br /><br />The present (9 PM) total is 63 - "150 Subjects" (Piedmont, Sweet Caporal)....<br />1 - Piedmont 350 (Lundgren)......7 - EPDG......4 - HINDU.<br /><br />Note....Not one Sovereign 150 has been reported....."very interesting".
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Mike Tucci (18colt)</b><p>Ted -<br /><br />I have . . . <br /><br />Ames and Jones -- SC 150<br />Doyle and Ewing -- Pied 150<br /><br />Earlier post of mine mentioned Lundgren and Lindaman (both Pied 150) and my EPDG cards (so don't tabulate again).<br /><br />Good luck, and thanks for tabulating.<br /><br />Mike (18colt)
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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>I only have three out of 520: <br /><br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/T206Collector/T206%20Collection/GroomSGC40.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/T206Collector/T206%20Collection/McLeanSGC30.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/T206Collector/T206%20Collection/RudolphSGC40.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a><br /><br />(One of the nice things about SGC is I don't have to show both the front and the back -- and the backs all look the same anyway...)
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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>t rex et al,<br /><br />couldn't wait to get home to check out things and it's already after 10pm <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />great work tabulating. it looks like epdg continues to be rarer than we thought and it looks like your cards continue to be 150's!<br />we still need more of a sampling, don't we?!<br /><br />your point about the sov. 150 very interesting---<br /><br />keep it coming! we need you Brian W.<br /><br />best,<br /><br />herbivore barry<br />
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Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p>Here's my EPDG...I must admit that I like Hal's better and would gladly trade.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.geocities.com/engelhard1978/t206cobboff_epdg_front.jpg"><br /><br />Brian E.
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Posted By: <b>Ron</b><p>Hi Ted,<br />Going over my set and I found 6 EPDG.<br />BARGER<br />CICOTTE<br />JIMMY COLLINS<br />HERZOG<br />PFEFFER<br />TANNEHILL<br />and one that was stolen 10yrs ago a nm white cap mathewson. One of my<br />nicest t-206's<br /><br />Ames hands at chest sweet cap 150<br />Doyle pied 150<br />ewing pied 150<br />jones pied 150<br />lindaman pied 150 and hindu<br />ludgren pied 150<br />shulte sweet 150<br /><br />Hopes this helps alittle.<br />
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Posted By: <b>Marty</b><p>I have five EDPG<br />Abbott, Hofman, Lattimore, Leifield and McQuillan
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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Been out of town for a few days. Great thread. I have <br />555 T206s and<br />7 EPDGs<br /><br />Like some others, when I was going through piles of t206s when piecing my set together I went out of my way to pick up as many different backs as possible. Whenever I found an EPDG of a card that I did not have in vg/ex or better, I bought bought it (given that the price was reasonable). I don't know if this matters, but my set was mostly pieced together by going through dealer inventories, not ebay.<br />JimB
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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Dang Ron, I was hoping I had the only Lindaman Hindu. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /> 2 Lundgren 350s mentioned after I noted my SGC one was probably a 350, Chuck & caramelcard<br /><br />Lee
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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>I was surprised to only find two EPDGs in a group of 475 t206s.<br />The two I have are Bridwell and Chase blue portrait. I just recently sold two graded EPDGs (Tinker and Bresnahan portrait).<br /><br />150 series<br /><br />Schulte<br />Lindaman<br />Lundgren<br />Ames<br />Jones<br /><br />Doyle (polar bear)
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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> I'll have more later, but here are my numbers so far:<br /><br /><br />1. Ames (front)I have a Hindu<br />2. Doyle (throw)I have a Hindu<br />3. Ewing I have a Hindu<br />4. Tom Jones (St. Louis)I have a Hindu<br />5. Lindaman I have reports of atleast 1 350, but have not seen a scans yet.<br />6. Lundgren (Cubs) Have seen 3 EPDG's<br />7. Schulte (Cubs) Joe P is the only one who claims to have a 350.<br />Have seen 4 Lindman Hindu's including yours Lee, and 2 Schulte Hindu's.<br /><br /><br />Talk to you soon Brian<br />
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BARRY A<br /><br />This Thread is very revealing and I hope Scot Reader is following it.<br />However, Barry, I have somewhat "hi-jacked" your original intent and I hope<br />you don't mind. It has become a "Two for One" survey.<br /><br />Mike T....Ron....Martin N....thank you for your inputs, I will be tabulating<br /> your numbers this AM.<br /><br />Martin Neal, check your Larry Doyle, it cannot be his "throwing pose"; as there<br />are no Polar Bear backs in the 150 Series.<br /><br />JimB and T206Collector....we would appreciate your inputs on these 7 cards of<br />interest ?<br /><br />And still.....no SOVEREIGN backs on these "suspicious 7"......this is becoming<br />very, very interesting and may well lead to a new survey (on a new Thread).
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Lee,is that the Lundgren you sold to me off that wannabe(cant think of the name of it) ebay site last year for the hurricane relief? <br /><br /> I dont know offhand how many or who i have with EPDG backs but if the thread is still going on the weekend ill chime in.<br /><br /> BTW,am i the only person who's never written down which specific back each card has? I could tell you the brand but ive never noted which series it is,except with Pied 42's. I went probably 3 years figuring i had all the American Beauty backs but when i actually sat down and looked i only had 1 of the 3 versions and had to buy the other 2 right away.I never noted the backs but figured i had enough AB's to at least have one of each
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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>Ted, thanks for pointing that out. I listed Joe Doyle instead of Larry. The Larry Doyle throwing is a 150 series.
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Martin Neal<br /><br />No problem guy.....and, I do not mean to be "picky".....but, it is important that<br /> you tell me which Tobacco brands your 6 cards are in the 150 Series ?
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Posted By: <b>dd</b><p>Great thread. I'll get on it tonite.
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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>What backs I have for the following seven (7) cards:<br /><br />Ames (front) - SC 150<br />Doyle (throw) - P 150<br />Ewing - SC 150<br />Tom Jones (St. Louis) - P 150<br />Lindaman - SC 150<br />Lundgren (Cubs) - P 150<br />Schulte (Cubs) - SC 150
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Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>I think the only one I have on this list is the Doyle, mine is a P150.
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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Ted,<br />Of the 7 you listed, all of mine are P150s except Schulte (Cubs) is SC 150.<br />JimB
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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>SGC's pop report lists one 1909 Sovereign back for Lindaman and Tom Jones. There appears to be a few 150 onlys with a single Sov 150 back. It is still tough to read the SGC pop reports if the player has multiple poses.<br /><br />Lee<br />
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thank you Mike T, Ron, Martin N, Brian W and JimB for your inputs. <br /><br />The total as of 1;30 today is.......<br /><br />PIEDMONT 150 or SWEET CAPORAL 150 backs = 84<br /><br />El PRINCIPE de GALES backs = 10<br /><br />HINDU backs = 14<br /><br />And, there is one "P350" back which I am beginning to question at this point.<br />We have examined 108 cards and just 1 - P350 really raises a "flag" in mind.<br />Sorry, guys but I am very skeptical at this point regarding this one input. <br />
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>I found after looking at my 120 or so cards that only one card is EPDG. Thats a PSA 2 Maddox.<br />RayB
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>keep it going Ted.<br />great work.<br />i love the various tributaries opening up---feels like<br />discoveries! Lee B.'s on to the 150 sovereign issue on<br />another thread so it looks like tributaries/discoveries<br />are abounding!!<br /><br />what a great hobby! <br /><br />best,<br /><br />barry
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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>Ted, I just got back. the brands are:<br /><br />Schulte - SC150<br />Lindaman - SC150<br />Lundgren - P150<br />Ames - P150<br />Jones - P150<br />Doyle - P150<br /><br /> Also, I just recently sold an Ewing with a Sweet Caporal 150 factory 649 back.
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Posted By: <b>Rich Jacobs</b><p>Only one about of about 100 cards: Mathewson w/ black cap.
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Posted By: <b>Troy</b><p>Out of my meager collection I have two EPDG backs (Lindaman and Doolin(sic) portrait)<br /><br />So my contribution is:<br />Lindaman EPDG<br />Lundgren (Chc)Pied 150 <br />and Ames (Hands in Front)SC 150<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>These are the backs on the other 7 cards you guys are tracking:<br /><br /><br />Ames, hands at chest - Piedmont 150 fac 25<br />Doyle, throwing - Sweet Caporal 150 fac 25<br />Ewing - Sovereign 150 fac 24<br />Jones, St Louis - Piedmont 150 fac 25<br />Lindaman, Boston - Sovereign 150 fac 24<br />Lundgren, Chicago - Piedmont 150 fac 25<br />Schulte, Chicago - Piedmont 150 fac 25<br /><br /><br />Frank W.
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>Nice thread. Here are my T206's for Ted's back surveys:<br /><br />Ames (chest) SC150, SC150, SC150 (all factory 30)<br />Doyle (throw) Pied150, Pied150, SC150 factory 30<br />Ewing P150, SC150 factory 30<br />Tom Jones P150, SC150, SC150 (both SC are factory 30), Hindu<br />Lindaman P150, Sov150<br />Schulte (Cubs) P150, SC150, SC150 (both SC are factory 30)<br /><br /><br />EPDG:<br />Bush<br />Crawford, batting<br />Donovan, portrait<br />Jennings, 1 hand<br />Jennings, 2 hands<br />Jennings, portrait<br />Killian, pitching<br />Mullin, batting<br />Mullin, throwing<br />O'Leary, hands on knees<br />O'Leary, portrait<br />Schaefer, Detroit<br />Stanage<br />Willetts, batting<br />Brain<br />McCormick<br />Wilhelm, batting<br />Needham<br />Myers, fielding<br />Clarke, Cleveland<br />Criger<br />Titus<br />
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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Art,<br /><br />i count 22 epdg. a bit more than most.<br />out of what total?<br />did you make an effort to collect this particular back.<br /><br />many thanks for the efforts<br /><br />best,<br /><br />barry
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T206 EPDG- - - how rare in your collection?
Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>Barry,<br />Most of my EPDG backs are in my Detroit collection (14).<br />The 22 total EPDG backs are out of around 1200 total T206.<br />Art
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