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What a great set of fb pennants (+ 1 baseball). Great finds, Rob! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Okay pennant guys, help me solve this mystery. Just added this Dodgers pennant to the collection. Is this a football pennant? As I am sure you know there was a NFL team with this name until 1943 and then in the AAFC 'til 1948.
For the prosecution: 1. The bum is kicking what appears to be a stinkin' football. 2. The '48 Football Dodgers did have blue and white as its colors. Different colors in other seasons, though. 3. I have never seen this design before, which is why I had to have it. For the defense (baseball?): 1. It is a cloth pennant, you know, the thin kind that fades easily gets loose threads on the edges when worn. I don't think that any cloth pennants were made in the 1940s. Have never seen one dated as such, nor any cloth pennants of the STL Browns, Phila A's, and Boston Braves. '55 Dodgers baseball pennants were cloth, and I doubt it goes back much earlier than that. 2. No evidence that the football team were referred to as "bums", and image searches of old BD football programs do not show a bum logo or reference. Any thoughts? I should add that either way, I'm happy with the purchase, regardless of sport. |
Well that solves the mystery as to who got it! I was the under-bidder, and was immediately regretful I didn't go higher. I think you really scored at that price. Congrats, Greg, on an amazing pickup.
Yeah, pretty sure it's football. The Bum was probably so darned popular in Brooklyn, that they just carried him over to the Football Team. While perhaps not the "official mascot" these things weren't as closely sanctioned back then. It could have been made as a "tongue in cheek" ironic humor kind of thing. But regardless of why/how the made it... It's insanely rare and very cool. :D |
I think it's baseball. Obviously none of us have seen the pennant before so it's very rare. Here are some of my thoughts:
1. If football I have never seen a pennant that early made of woven fabric. Every woven pennant I have ever seen started in the early 50's. 2. I have never seen the football team referrrd to as the bums. The bum seems much more popular in the 50's. I've never seen anything related to football with the bum. 3. The only thing linking the pennant to football is the bum kicking what looks like a football. It could be something else, but I agree it looks like a football. 4. I guess it could be a one off prototype that never got issued, who knows. |
Thanks guys. Never know for certain, I guess, but it will look good on the wall.
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I tend to agree with Jason. Could you post one more picture of just the bum and whatever it is he's kicking? Maybe if I saw the whole picture, in context, I could make some guess about the "football shaped object." :D
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Sure ... here it is
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My vote is football. Pretty hard to refute the evidence. The bum is kicking a football. Don't see a bat or glove in his luggage.
"Bums" was a pretty ubiquitous term back in the depression. Didn't the baseball Dodgers earn the nickname by being a bad team? The football Dodgers had only 4 winning seasons in 14 years during that era and easily could've earned the nickname as well...only not as popularly. The material the pennant is made of gives me pause, but the graphic trumps it. |
What's in the bum's left hand? And what are those "poofs"? Smoke?
Love these mysteries! :D |
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