Net54baseball.com Forums - Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum http://www.net54baseball.com This is a moderated forum for the discussion of Pre-WWII baseball cards en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:48:19 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.net54baseball.com/images/misc/rss.jpg Net54baseball.com Forums - Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum http://www.net54baseball.com Worlds Smallest eBay Scan http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127539&goto=newpost Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:47:18 GMT OK, this one was comical...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=200507749375

And it got even funnier when you read this guys feedback on this and other recently.

Then this Cobb Bat On tonight..

http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Ty-Cobb-Bat...torefresh=true

Looks like he's tried to sell the card at least one other time, then not for sale, then it is again. Returns accepted .. oops no wait, not accepted. You see who the latest winner is - a (1) feedback - what smells about all of this!?

How in the hell does eBay allow these people to continue to roam around and sell..?! ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum Edwolf1963 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127539 Card surgery http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127538&goto=newpost Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:20:13 GMT I picked this up in a type-card lot on ebay a few months back - one of the rare times a D-card shows up in my price range. Any recommendations for... I picked this up in a type-card lot on ebay a few months back - one of the rare times a D-card shows up in my price range. Any recommendations for reattaching Mr. Holland's head? Is there any tape that won't yellow over time?

Thanks
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]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum yoyot1 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127538 question regarding psa/dna http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127531&goto=newpost Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:44:13 GMT If I have an item that has a psa/dna certificate, what do they charge to encapsulate it? I noticed that they are doing free encapsulation of signed... If I have an item that has a psa/dna certificate, what do they charge to encapsulate it? I noticed that they are doing free encapsulation of signed 8x10's with fee. If I have a signed 8x10 that has already been certified by them, would they encapsulate it for free? My past experiences calling customer suuport has been a joke so i thought Id try here. Thanks! ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum milkit1 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127531 <![CDATA[Mastro Auctions Mastro's Stuff?]]> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127526&goto=newpost Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:44:57 GMT Just got this email from Legendary Auctions..... Legendary Auctions to Offer ?Collection of Hobby Pioneer Bill Mastro in Special December 8-9... Just got this email from Legendary Auctions.....

Legendary Auctions to Offer ?Collection of Hobby Pioneer Bill Mastro in Special December 8-9 Catalog Auction

Significant Collection Renowned ?for Impeccable Condition and Rarity

Legendary Auctions has been selected to handle the sale of The Bill Mastro Collection. As one of the hobby’s most widely recognized pioneers, Bill Mastro concentrated his collecting interests on iconic pieces of sports memorabilia that were among the world’s most prestigious in terms of both condition and display appeal. The collection of more than 800 lots will be auctioned as a stand-alone event in December. Bidding is scheduled to begin on Monday, November 22nd and close on Wednesday and Thursday December 8th and 9th. A few of the noteworthy items being sold from The Bill Mastro Collection include:

• A 1927 Babe Ruth Yankees payroll check – cashed the day Ruth hit his 60th Home Run;

• A signed handprint of Babe Ruth;

• A 1917-1921 Babe Ruth H&B game used bat;

• A 1927 Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig Barnstorming advertising poster;

• A 1915 Champion Boston Red Sox panoramic team photo featuring Babe Ruth;

• A 1910s “Turkish Trophies” display (in original frame) with Ty Cobb L-1 Leather;

• A 1909 “Colgan’s Chips” Honus Wagner advertising sign;

• A 1910 Addie Joss Day panorama;

• A 1903 Carl Horner American League team composite.

• An 1894 Temple Cup print;

• An 1884 “Climax Tobacco” composite with original mailing tube;

• A 1934 “Tour of Japan” team signed ball with original Tamazawa box;

• A Babe Ruth “Home Run Special” single signed ball;

• A 1942 “War Bond Effort” team signed ball;

• A Babe Ruth signed store model bat;

• A 1954 Wilson Wieners complete set (with backs) uncut sheet on advertising display;

• A 1928 “Fro Joy” Babe Ruth die-cut counter sign;

• A 1933 Goudey uncut sheet (24 cards) including Babe Ruth;

• A 1926 Champion New York Yankees Cosmo team panoramic photo;

• A 1912 Champion New York Giants oversized team photo featuring Christy Mathewson;

• A 1925 Colored World Series Kansas City vs. Hillsdale panoramic photo;

• A circa 1909 “Reach Sporting Goods” metal advertising sign;

• A circa 1909 Honus Wagner bronze statue – from Wagner’s estate;

• A 1910s “Ty Cobb Shoes” advertising sign;

• A 1920s Babe Ruth “Sporting News” die-cut advertising sign.


Experts at Legendary Auctions expect collectors to be extremely interested in owning a piece of The Bill Mastro Collection, for a number of reasons. “First of all, everyone recognizes the fact that Bill Mastro has been a major force in the hobby for decades, and it’s universally acknowledged that his contributions have been significant,” said Doug Allen, president, Legendary Auctions. Beyond that Allen said, Mastro was always first and foremost a collector, and what he loved to collect was perfection. “Quality items in pristine condition always attract considerable attention at auction,” said Allen. “Bill’s collection has always been one of the most meticulous in terms of condition and attention to detail. Collectors will pay a premium for items in exemplary grades of preservation such as this. The collection’s across-the-board, unparalleled quality truly makes every item one-of-a-kind.”
For more information on the auction of The Bill Mastro Collection call (708) 889-9380 or go to www.legendaryauctions.com.



17542 Chicago Avenue
Lansing, IL 60438
(708) 889-9380
www.legendaryauctions.com ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum T206Collector http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127526 Welcome our newest board member...O/T http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127517&goto=newpost Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:36:26 GMT As most know we use a very popular chatboard s/w. Most folks also know that there are rogue scripts written, to register more non-existent users, to... As most know we use a very popular chatboard s/w. Most folks also know that there are rogue scripts written, to register more non-existent users, to plague these types of boards and cause havoc. So, I get about 20 new registrants a day and approx 1-3 of those will be real. I just noticed the newest one's user ID at the bottom of the board and his user ID is "itchyNscratchy".......yikes. :D ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum Leon http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127517 Is there a Mark Steinberg out there in Net54 land? http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127487&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:57:31 GMT please PM me please PM me ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum Shoeless Moe http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127487 Lot of Old Mill Cabinets in Clean Sweep Auction http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127481&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:03:47 GMT Incredible collection of 19 OM cabinets in the current Clean Sweep offering. Not something we see every day:... Incredible collection of 19 OM cabinets in the current Clean Sweep offering. Not something we see every day:
http://www.csauctions.com/item.cgi?show_item=0000306862

Disclaimer: I have not consigned anything to this auction, nor do I know who consigned this lot. ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum Matt http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127481 Jake Beckley Old Judge Cabinet http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127480&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:00:51 GMT Something in Joe_G.’s post, A Fantasy Poll for Old Judge Collectors, caught my attention. He mentioned in the part about Super Sized HOFers that the... Something in Joe_G.’s post, A Fantasy Poll for Old Judge Collectors, caught my attention. He mentioned in the part about Super Sized HOFers that the only known Old Judge cabinet of Jake Beckley was in a museum. What caught my attention was that I have had an Old Judge cabinet of Jake Beckley in my collection for about 20 years. I had traded a dealer at a card/autograph show in Richmond, Va, a Nolan Ryan rookie card for it. After a few e-mails with Joe and Jay Miller it appears I may have gotten the better part of the trade.:) They said that the only O. J. Beckley cabinet they knew of was in the Baseball Hall of Fame. That one is of Beckley on the St. Louis Whites in the fourth pose, “Stooping to catch ball knee high.” The one I have is the third pose, “Catch, hands held out neck high.” Jake is in a St. Louis uniform and listed as being on the “Pittsburghs.” It does have tape stains at both the top and the bottom of the cabinet. I thought you might like to see this “new” discovery. Sorry, not for sale.
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]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum Gemruss http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127480 W F Morris and Charlotte NC baseball in 1910 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127473&goto=newpost Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:34:48 GMT I have this postcard... and it sure reads like the fellow who was in the minors, or about to be. Anyone have any clues about W F Morris? What about... I have this postcard... and it sure reads like the fellow who was in the minors, or about to be. Anyone have any clues about W F Morris? What about the RPO railroad circle date stamp... "ASH?? & CHARLESTON R.P.O." ?? I know a bit about railroads, but I'm striking out on this one.

Anyone knowing about it, I'd love to hear from you.

FW



]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum FrankWakefield http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127473 Tell your stories Of dealings with legends of the hobby http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127458&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:58:14 GMT After readong Bruce and Old Mill's stories, would love to hear some more stories that people have of dealings they had with some of the legnds of the hobby. ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum vintagechris http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127458 Grading Question http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127454&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:56:52 GMT I was looking through the Goodwin Auction and there were two cards I looked at as possible upgrades for my N162 set. These cards are: Lot #61-SGC60... I was looking through the Goodwin Auction and there were two cards I looked at as possible upgrades for my N162 set. These cards are: Lot #61-SGC60 Andrews and Lot #62-SGC60 Caruthers. On closer inspection, however, both cards have a small amount of paper loss from the text area of the back. My question is, can an SGC60 card have any paper loss? ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum oldjudge http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127454 Need your opinions http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127453&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:23:46 GMT Hi All. I finally went through my and my father's collection to decide what should stay or go. Among the better stuff, I also have thousands (50 800-count boxes) of duplicate cards from 1975 to the early 1990s and do not know what to do with them. I know this is a pre-war forum, but your opinions would be most appreciated.
As I see it, my options are:
1 - Try and sell them or trade them. Even though they are in great condition, I realize they are plentiful and inexpensive. Plus, shipping this volume of cards from Chicago to anywhere might be prohibitive. Also, who would want them? I doubt someone would trade for items on our pre-war wantlist for newer cards.
2 - Donate them to Goodwill or the like. Would anyone know what are the tax ramifications of this type of donation?
3 - I run a 67 team fall baseball league and thought about packaging them up and giving them to the approximately 900 kids from ages 9-12 who are playing in the league. Hopefully, this would get them started on collecting and/or collecting the older cards. To them, 1977 is vintage!
4 - Your thoughts or ideas.
Pluses and minuses on each of the above or any ideas you may have. Thanks for your time. ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum wrapperguy http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127453 Need Advice Regarding Selling My T206 Set http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127451&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:41:39 GMT Hello Folks, I am in the process of getting my T206 set graded for eventual sale. Sadly, I am missing the Big 6, but I have the remainder of the... Hello Folks,

I am in the process of getting my T206 set graded for eventual sale. Sadly, I am missing the Big 6, but I have the remainder of the set.

As you would expect, conditions vary from Nr Mt to Poor.

What do you propose is the best way to maximize the value I obtain for the set, while balancing the amount of time and effort I have to put into selling the cards? Should I put the entire set up for auction or should I sell each of the HOF's individually and then sell the commons in large lots?

I am looking forward to your thoughts.

Thanks in advance,

John ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum OldMill http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127451 <![CDATA[Who Was America's First Card Collector?]]> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127444&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:53:03 GMT Who Was America’s First Baseball Card Collector? Next year we will celebrate our 35th year as a dedicated collector of rare baseball memorabilia... Who Was America’s First Baseball Card Collector?

Next year we will celebrate our 35th year as a dedicated collector of rare baseball memorabilia and rare high grade baseball cards.

Over the course of the past 10,000 days we have talked with thousands of dealers and collectors, accumulated the largest collection of baseball card magazines and newsletters in the world, and tracked selected auction results from than 600 baseball memorabilia auctions.

While we are proud of our collection, what we have enjoyed most is the opportunity it has presented to study the history of baseball, and the history of the baseball memorabilia business.

It is our hope to complete a fully illustrated memoir about our hobby experiences which will focus on the collectors, early hobby activity which heretofore has not been well documented, and our experiences with infamous dealers and collectors . We will also look closely at the history of 100 organizations whose memorabilia and baseball card production shaped the hobby between 1900 and the present day.

In our view no topic will be as interesting than to dig back through our correspondence, and conversations and look at the early pioneers as well as to create our own list of The Hobby 200.

It is with this thought in mind that we want to share a brief biography of the person who Irv Lerner, in his legendary book, “Who’s Who in Card Collecting” named as the first great collector. This man was one of the original six members of the Baseball Card Collectors Hall of Fame (1969-70).
His Hobby Hall of Fame entry, in part, reads:

Walter Corson Glenmore, PA (1900-1966)

“Walter Corson was not only one of the first known card collectors, but he also had one of the largest collections including 616 different complete sets, plus 500 0ther complete sets among his 158,000 duplicates. …He wrote numerous articles and worked along side his friends, Charles Bray, Buck Barker and Jed Burdick to develop series check lists.

Walter was also a talented athlete, playing minor league baseball as a first baseman. In fact, in 1925 he led the Arizona State League in batting. He was invited to the Yankees training camp in St. Petersburg, but another young first basemen, Lou Gehrig, had the first base spot secured. After his baseball career ended, he served as a scout with the Cleveland Indians for eight years.

Sadly, in 1958 Colson learned he was suffering from cancer, he decided to run a classified ad in the Card Collectors bulletin which read:
“Due to my recent cancer operation and the uncertainties of life, I am putting my entire collection up for sale.

It was not long, before another legendary collector decided to purchase that collection. That collector was Frank Nagy.

We hope you enjoyed this rare piece of early hobby history. If you have any questions or exceptional items for sale or trade, please contact us at:

Bruce Dorskind
America’s Toughest Want List
bdorskind@dorskindgroup.com ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum Yankeefan51 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127444 19th century Part 2 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127438&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:43:04 GMT This thread will expand on Jeff's topic a bit. Which 19th century sets or subsets are the most difficult to obtain an example from, exclusive of cost, and which types have the fewest surviving cards? These are two questions that may or may not have the same answer. Possible responses could include Four Base Hits, Just So, Lone Jack, Hess, Dog's Head, OJ California League, etc. Although no one knows the definitive answers, I was just curious about the combined experience of the board. ]]> Net54baseball.com Vintage Baseball Card Forum GaryPassamonte http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127438