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03-30-2009, 11:26 AM
Posted By: <b>Sully</b><p>HI <br>hoping someone can help figure out what I have <br><br> I have a 1911-14 Butter Krust Bread J.Evers<br><br>and a <br><br>1911-14 Weber Baking Sam Crawford <br><br>been doing alot of research thru the net. and found this great forum <br><br>wondered if someone could take a look at them thru a scan and tell me if there authentic . and is there a sure fire way of knowing. pretty cool cards <br>tks a bunch !!!

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03-30-2009, 11:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Sully - can you post the scans? If not, email them to me and I'll post them for you.<br>I'm sure people will be happy to lend their expertise!<br><br><p><br><br><br><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mwieder" rel="nofollow">My Trade/Sale Page</a></p>

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03-30-2009, 11:35 AM
Posted By: <b>Sully</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1238434294.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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03-30-2009, 11:39 AM
Posted By: <b>Sully</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1238434735.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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03-30-2009, 11:45 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>They are both fakes.....The backs have artificial aging....

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03-30-2009, 11:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Sully</b><p>are they worth anything ? and why would someone make fakes of such great cards ?

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03-30-2009, 11:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Yeah, I agree. We've seen those funky fronts on ebay recently...it was a blue-backgrounded card, though I can't remember the player.

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03-30-2009, 11:53 AM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Also, the ink on the Brunners back should be green, not black.<br>JimB

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03-30-2009, 11:54 AM
Posted By: <b>Sully</b><p>how can u tell the real ones then ?

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03-30-2009, 12:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br><br>A real one-<br><br><br><img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/asphaltman76/d304shaferb.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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03-30-2009, 12:20 PM
Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>When the corners on the actual cards wear, the color of the paper loss or wear stays close to the original color of the card. With the reprint the corners have been artificially rounded recently and haven't had time to fade so they look darker around the edges.<br><br>All of the backs of these particular reprints that I've seen are off center from top to bottom so look for that as a give away too.<br><br>Besides that, the colors on the fronts are just faded compared to the real deal with the grass area showing a lot more spottiness.<br><br><br><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/caramelcard/d304/websize/craw.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1238434294.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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03-30-2009, 01:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Sully</b><p>tks guys for all the help <br>very disapointing though. I got them at a auction in Northern Michigan <br>I hope the indivduals who made the reprints are in jail !!!<br>quite the mood swing thinking you have few thousand dollars in cards then to drop to nothing .I guess I'll keep to what i know which is Hockey . tks again <br>do these retain any value or just coffee table pieces. <br>

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03-30-2009, 01:34 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Unfortunately Sully these things happen all the time. A favorite trick of estate auctions is to bring reprints to the sale, and then claim they were found while cleaning out the attic. Bidders then assume they are old cards that have been in the house for decades.

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03-31-2009, 08:42 AM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Yes it is very sad but these are both bad, Dan.