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03-09-2009, 09:15 AM
Posted By: <b>4815162342</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Bill-Chappelle-Rochester-Super-Sharp-PSA-8_W0QQitemZ160318232306QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sp orts_Cards?hash=item160318232306" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Bill-Chappelle-Rochester-Super-Sharp-PSA-8_W0QQitemZ160318232306QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sp orts_Cards?hash=item160318232306</a><br><br>Someone got a deal.

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03-09-2009, 09:27 AM
Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Card has an OC qualifier, what should it have gone for?

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03-09-2009, 09:31 AM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>More wear on the bottom corners on the back, where the uneven edge is, suggests a potential trim. Who knows if it really is, but that would be a red flag to me.<br><br><br><br>_ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ _ <br><br>Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for Net54 T206 archive, signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!

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03-09-2009, 09:37 AM
Posted By: <b>4815162342</b><p>So you think PSA could've missed the trim?

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03-09-2009, 09:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Bottom edge looks trimmed to me...or poorly cut at the factory because it's not square, and it's not diamond cut. That probably kept the price down. Still a very sharp card.

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03-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>How much do PSA8 T206 (no qualifiers) sell for these days (on average)?<br><br><br><br>

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03-09-2009, 11:15 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan McCarthy</b><p>Fred -- you can go www.t-206.com and see what cards on ebay typically sell for in a given condition. Obviously it isn't perfect but I've found it to be good for an estimate (I only deal in low grade cards right now though). The few I looked up didn't have any value for a PSA 8, though.

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03-09-2009, 12:20 PM
Posted By: <b>4815162342</b><p>That website shows PSA 7s going in the $600-650 range.

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03-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>The price is about right for a PSA 8 with a qualifier...another sold for $300.<br><br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/abr2n9" rel="nofollow">PSA 8</a> <br><br>If it was a PSA 8 without the OC or MC it would be a good deal. <br><br><br>

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03-09-2009, 01:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>T-206.com showed the last two PSA7 cards selling for $411 and $480 each. <br><br>I was always under the impression that a qualifier would knock 1.5 - 2.0 points off the assigned grade. If that's the case then the card would be a 6.0 - 6.5 and the $225 may be in line. I was kind of curious so I checked the ebay sales on 6's and they look to be going for about $140 - $200 for a common.

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03-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>That's quite a cut on the bottom border...I don't know how that card got an 8 o/c. Someone may have gotten a deal alright...a RAW deal!<br>

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03-09-2009, 01:44 PM
Posted By: <b>rand</b><p>i thought people were not supposed to post anonymously.

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03-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Anonymity is only &quot;not&quot; allowed when that person is making strong accusations or comments towards something or someone. Merely being on the board anonymously is fine if the conversation is somewhat neutral. Another exception might be made if what the person is saying is nothing but factual and they prove what they are saying is true. In other words if someone points out a fraudulent auction, and says why it is, and it truly is fraudulent, then I am not sure we need to know who they are. It's a case by case situation. Overall, anonymity is somewhat frowned upon but there are exceptions which are fine. It's sort of another loose rule but the more controversial the statement the less anonymity is allowed, in general. I hope this explains our (us moderators) position. take care

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03-09-2009, 02:05 PM
Posted By: <b>4815162342</b><p>I promise you won't hear that kind of stuff from me. No drama, just cards!

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03-09-2009, 02:07 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I wish everyone felt the same way as you do. I could use less drama and more cards, about now!! BTW, of course you seem like an intelligent guy/girl and I expect no such chicanery from you...

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03-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Posted By: <b>stefan</b><p>Boo to PSA!!!!!! that card is the best looking authentic ive ever seen.<br>good deal? not in my opinion, but maybe to others.

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03-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>The card went a little high for a PSA Authentic, based on the trimmed bottom border. Had it gone to SGC I would be willing to bet it would not have come back with a numerical grade. Not trying to diss the buyer because it is a beautiful card...

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03-09-2009, 03:19 PM
Posted By: <b>rand</b><p>at sgc they have a 2 tier system, first the cards gets graded and put into an sgc holder with the tab, then its looked over a 2nd time to make sure it looks right in the holder at the given grade. if psa had this system someone would have really looked twice before it went off to the shipping dept. <br><br>buy the card not the holder... psa has enforced this motto more than anybody

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03-09-2009, 03:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Kevin</b><p>&quot;So you think PSA could've missed the trim?&quot;<br><br><br>Wondering...is this a serious question?<br><br>------------------------------<br><br><a href="http://www.AlteredCards.com" rel="nofollow">www.AlteredCards.com</a> - in-depth education on advanced card doctoring techniques &amp; detection with detailed examples<br><br>

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03-09-2009, 03:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f352/tbarlage/Chappelle8OC_846.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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03-09-2009, 03:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Tbob said:<br><br>&quot;The card went a little high for a PSA Authentic, based on the trimmed bottom border. Had it gone to SGC I would be willing to bet it would not have come back with a numerical grade.&quot;<br><br><br>He is 100% correct. There is no chance that SGC would have graded that with a number. Of course, the flip side to that is that SGC bounces a few thing that are good. A few months back I sent in a few cards. One, (a non-vintage card, 1986 Jordan) was rejected as &quot;Evidence of Trimming.&quot; Seeing as how I had opened the pack in 1986, and it had been sitting in a binder ever since, I called to ask about it. The response was, &quot;Well, we didn't say it was trimmed, just that it MIGHT have been.&quot; <br><br>There is a flip side to each of these issues and this is the price we pay for third party grading.

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03-09-2009, 03:49 PM
Posted By: <b>2dueces</b><p>Actually I don't see the OC qualifier. Cantering would be dead on if the rest of the card was there.<br><br>In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.

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03-09-2009, 03:55 PM
Posted By: <b>4815162342</b><p>Well I'm definitely glad I held back from bidding on it. Now I question one of my PSA &quot;MC&quot;s... Guess I'll stick with SGC from now on. Thanks guys.