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03-02-2009, 02:11 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanAre you kidding me with the amount of NOISE that Drent is BRINGING with this auction? There are some very sick cards in this auction. It's great to finally look at a auction that is about high grades and not some boring blah blah PSA 4's and 5's. The question is can he top 2.8 million?

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03-02-2009, 02:18 PM

Posted By: Matt3 E90 Joe Jaxs and a gorgeous E107 Young. It's so loud I can hardly hear. <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/mwieder" rel="nofollow">My Trade/Sale Page</a>

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03-02-2009, 02:18 PM

Posted By: peter ullmanhigh grade...condition "rarity" cards=lots of zzzzzz's...snooze time...quiet time...not much noize here...although the e107 young is set to 11.

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03-02-2009, 02:20 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI mean the sound is deafening. I think Shoeless is at 13,000 already.

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03-02-2009, 02:23 PM

Posted By: leonWhile some folks collect high grade others don't. Since you don't collect you probably wouldn't understand. I think all collecting is great. I prefer true rarity over condition rarity but whatever folks enjoy is great. regards

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03-02-2009, 02:34 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI understand all aspects of collecting Leon because i deal with collectors 24/7. The emotional aspects in completing a set of low end cards or going after a super high grade card can be draining. I have to say pound for pound Drent is the best in the business and the dude just somehow comes up with the sickest cards. I know it is not pre-war but the 1971 PSA gem mint 10 Banks is just unreal. I'm bidding away on a bunch of cards so wish me luck. Also i do agree that with you in regards to how rare a card is. It starts to get fun when you have the finest example of condition along with how rare it is.

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03-02-2009, 02:55 PM

Posted By: barrysloateI clicked on the link for Mile High Cards and I got a jewelry site. Did this happen to anyone else?

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03-02-2009, 02:57 PM

Posted By: leonI bid in Brian's auctions too. Good luck with whatever you go for. I am pretty sure we won't be bidding against each other. regards

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03-02-2009, 02:58 PM

Posted By: peter ullmanbarry...this happened to me at first...then I googled mile high and it worked appropriately...odd?!

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03-02-2009, 03:01 PM

Posted By: barrysloateSo there is something wrong with the link.

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03-02-2009, 03:22 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanBarry....i had no problems with the link sent to me.

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03-02-2009, 03:34 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanMHCC and Memory Lane have really improved their prewar offerings in both quantity and quality, I suspect to the detriment of Mastro. REA's upcoming auction, however, will probably include all of those great cards Mastro's premier auctions used to have (along with its own traditionally incredible collection of cards).

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03-02-2009, 03:37 PM

Posted By: barrysloateWon't Mastro have a major auction in April?

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03-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Posted By: Phil GarryAs others have already stated, a nice group of high-end vintage baseball cards, nothing that I am interested in but something for almost everyone else I am sure.

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03-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanPresumably but based on their past few auctions it would appear that both quantity and quality seem to have taken a hit -- and the cards have to go somewhere.

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03-02-2009, 03:49 PM

Posted By: barrysloateThe February Collector Auction was smaller and seemed to not be of the quality of previous ones. I'll be curious to see how the April one looks.

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03-02-2009, 03:52 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLichtman....did you see the Chase 8.5?

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03-02-2009, 03:54 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanYes...I've got an 8 already so I'm good on that one. I'd be happy to find a 7 Holding Tropy or Pink Portrait! Not to be in this auction, however.

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03-02-2009, 04:14 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanOk well we will not be battling over the card. I have a number in mind so we shall see. Good luck in the auction if you bid on anything.

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03-04-2009, 01:39 PM

Posted By: JamieGuys, I follow Marshall's approach (I like Leon's approach as well, but am not knowledgeable enough to know what that "truly rare" stuff is worth, haha). So I collect/invest in mainly low-pop, high-grade commons. I'm thinking of bidding in the Mile High auction, but am trying to calibrate what the cards are worth. Do you have any idea what percent prices have dropped on low-pop, high grade commons since their highs in late 2007? (please, no "what's it worth to you?" type answers - this is an entirely empirical question). Thanks, Jamie

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03-04-2009, 01:46 PM

Posted By: Jim VB17.372% (Give or take.)

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03-04-2009, 02:05 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJamie...i think it depends on the card and also the set builders chasing it. Every day the hobby has a person deciding to start another set or their first one. For example i recieved a call from a man who just won the lottery on a scratch off for 150,000 and he has decided to put together the 1958 Topps set in PSA 7 to 10 condition because it was the year he was born. He would not even be on most dealers radar screen so if a low pop common came online he would join the fight for the card with set builders. My personal opinion is that it's a great buying time. I invested in gold when the country was at the top of a bull market several years ago, most of my friends thought i was crazy, when it went to 1000 in Jan of 08 the party started. My advice is to buy what you can afford because baseball cards are like 36DD's guys just love to stare at em.

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03-04-2009, 02:28 PM

Posted By: barrysloateMarshall is correct that the value of low pop cards in any set is based solely on who needs them. It's not "what are they worth" but rather "who will be bidding." As such the market is very difficult to predict. And of course I have to ask the obvious question: Why did the guy who won the 150K lottery call you?

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03-04-2009, 02:37 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Oh, this should be good.

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03-04-2009, 02:39 PM

Posted By: Jim VB"Why did the guy who won the 150K lottery call you?" Just guessing here... Marshall knows where the 36DD's are buried?

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03-04-2009, 03:34 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanBarry...you guys just crack me up. I own alot of cards period so i'll leave it at that. I have already stated that last year there was like three or four guys on here that claimed i was bogus and had no cards, Wonka was calling me newbie and other board memebers kept saying i was like other folks that came on here that come and go because they talk smackabout cards they own. I then posted that i have some of the finest Southern Leaguers and other tobacco cards and the majority of you guys said no way, board members were calling me liar and so on. No one took any of my wagers because really the majority of you guys are just nothing but gas and BRING 0 NOISE so the cards went to Milehigh and blew out for ahhhh 37,000. To take it one step further Leon even called Drent to validate my story which i thought was hilarious and whoaaaaaaaa low and behold everything i said was true and the cards belonged to me. Now isn't that amazing? Just because i do not set up at card shows and plaster my face in baseball card mags does not mean anything. I'm involved in alot of card deals that are underground and that is the way i like it. Most folks would never have the balls to travel into places i have gone to buy old tobacco or pre 1960 cards. You see when you pull down a dark country road where the cell does not work and the man on the front porch has a shotgun beside him that is when you know the fun starts. I'll steal one of Lichtman's lines- I like to live dangerously. Are we having fun yet? In regards to JimVB, dude you are a goofball period and if you had any stones you would have took a few of my wagers but i knew you were just all talk and no play. The uhhhh nickel poker table is down the hall first door to your light.

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03-04-2009, 03:49 PM

Posted By: barrysloateWas that the answer to the question of why the guy called you? It was hard to tell.

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03-04-2009, 03:51 PM

Posted By: leonTo be completely accurate Brian called me, I didn't call him. He did tell me you had the cards though.

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03-04-2009, 04:00 PM

Posted By: barrysloateI do believe you Marshall, and I know you buy and sell baseball cards. But some of your stories and anecdotes are quite funny and on occasion stretch the imagination.

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03-04-2009, 04:03 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSorry Leon but i thought you called him. Makes no sense to me why Drent would bring me up in a conversation but it's not a big deal. Barry i get calls all the time in regards to cards. What i have to ask you is why when i post something do you constantly question it? It really is not odd that a man wins a lottery. One thing to realize is that alot of card and antique dealers have horrible reputations so most people do not pick up a Beckett or go online to sell or find cards. The guy who won the lottery knows me from a flea market i go to search for treasures, it is that flea market where i found and bought the board full of 1944 Gum Inc American Beauties.

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03-04-2009, 04:06 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanBarry...i hope you know that when i say things i mean no harm to you. Computers cannot express tone of voice so half the time i'm laughing at things you say. In regards to the man that won the lottery he is just one lucky bastard. He was so happy that one would have thought he hit for like 10 million or something. Also not that it matters but today i bought around 500 old tobacco cards that have like English actors and old cowboys and stuff. Some of them are wild as hell and who knows how the stuff falls into my lap but it does. One of the reasons people call me is because i have been known to buy and sell killer items without screwing people over.

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03-04-2009, 04:19 PM

Posted By: Rob D.dude you are a goofball ... Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

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03-04-2009, 04:25 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanBack at ya cuz Mr.Goof meet Mr.Ball

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03-04-2009, 04:30 PM

Posted By: barrysloateMarshall, I take no offense. But you left out of your story that you already knew the guy. It sounded more like some stranger out there won 150K and then called you out of the clear blue. Like I've said before, you do have a life chock full of adventure.

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03-04-2009, 04:57 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSorry Barry my bad for leaving that out. It is not like i am friends with any of these folks but in the antique or card world somehow my number is given to alot of folks. Here is something i looked at today. A gal called me in regards to a friend of hers that had a painting. She said i think the artists name is John Singer Sargent. I was like hmmmm i doubt it. I then went and yep it was a John Singer Sargent. Very cool piece to. Now comes the tough part because Elizabeth at Addison Galleries is the only true Sargent expert in the world and she is super tough to deal with. Onward Dasher on Blitzen.

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03-04-2009, 05:09 PM

Posted By: Al SimeoneMarshall, Love the read babe!! Cracks me up with all your great metaphors! Got that Lichtman!!! You take the edge off some rather dull reading at times!

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03-04-2009, 05:16 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI think Lichtman is a cool cat and he cracks me up with the things he says.

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03-04-2009, 05:52 PM

Posted By: JamieThanks Marshall and Barry. Barry, I suppose you're right, who is bidding is the most vital, and as such, when I sell I really have to do it through one of these auction houses and not ebay, even if the auction houses take a cut. Just have to make sure you have the big-time collectors in play. As for Drent, I know that he had zero percent consigning fee, so I'm sure that helped a lot. I almost consigned a couple cards, (70's HOF PSA 9's), but chose not just because of economic fear. Yes, things are crashing now, but they could get worse - some think a lot worse, like DOW 3,500. I just wonder what will be going on auction then! All in all, in spite of Bruce Dorskind's strange language at times, I totally agree with "their" approach to buying cards. I'm just not as knowledgeable and stick to the mainstream sets like T206 or 59' Topps. Any idea what a T206 PSA 9 common would go for these days? 5-7k, perhaps? I saw those 9's of HOFers go for 48k a piece. Incredible!!! And to Marshall, impressive move on the gold. I just bought some, actually. People are saying it could go to $2000-3000. Who knows? Hope I'm not wrong about that one...

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03-04-2009, 06:01 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanMarshall, thanks! Al, I'll try harder!

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03-04-2009, 06:05 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanPS--I happen to think the Mile High selection is really great. While not containing rarity even remotely on the level of REA, the auction has high grade versions of a hell of a lot of prewar classic cards -- cards that I have not seen in such a grade at auction in a very long time. One surprise: I received the catalogue today and the printing/scans are awful. Color issues, page background showing through the picutres of the cards, etc. Doesn't Joe D advertise in the greater-Denver area?

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03-04-2009, 06:06 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJamie....gold will go back and forth for a little while. Do not fear if it dips below 800 one more time. Gold is going to skyrocket when the paper trail comes crashing down just like wall street and believe me it will. I have my seat belt buckled for the rocket moves it is going to have in the next few years. Also buy bulk silver in 10 ounce bars. I think silver is going to roll also and it is a steal right now. The dollar is going to grow weaker and with as many of them being made who knows what they will be worth 5 years from now.

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03-04-2009, 06:14 PM

Posted By: Al SimeoneJeff, Thanks makes me feel better that you will try harder! And one thing is for certain I know you wont let me down!

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03-04-2009, 06:24 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJeff...i think Drent might have used another catalogue guy this time because his main man was swamped. I'm only speculating but the last catalogue was awesome. I love some of the cards in the auction but i know there is going to be major fireworks before it is all said and done. Did someone say economic crisis? Everything is crashing? My guess the numbers these cards will bring will raise a few eyebrows, i hope the cards i'm bidding on don't blowout. I may have to go to the whip to get a few of them home down the stretch (-:

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03-04-2009, 06:25 PM

Posted By: JamieMarshall, Thanks for the reassurance! That's what I believe, too. Our economy is toast, man, toast! Commodities like cards and gold are where it's at. I recently realized that the two really complement each other economically - when times are good, card prices soar - and when bad, gold soars. I think you got to own both. If gold goes below 800, I really have to buy more. At least that's my plan... just hope that you're in physical bullion and not an ETF or dealer "pool" - I read that in the early 80's when gold dropped, people tried to sell and some of those dealers didn't actually have the gold. edit - i note that you are in bullion from your silver comment. I'm kinda reluctant to buy cards until the stock market has gone fully into the toilet, so that's why I was asking those questions earlier. Jamie

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03-04-2009, 06:41 PM

Posted By: JamieMarshall, Where would one go about buying the silver bars? I get a really high premium at APMEX. Jamie

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03-04-2009, 08:38 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanThe Baltimore coin show is this weekend and there will be dealers from all over selling. If you do not live close to Baltimore e-mail me and i can help you out because i'm heading to the show to buy more silver. I only buy bullion when it comes to silver and gold, i would not give a nickel for paper certs.

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03-04-2009, 09:59 PM

Posted By: JamieMarshall, Thanks, I'm going to pass you up on your really kind offer, not because I don't trust you, but just because I don't know you. But I have been doing some research on silver. Holy %&*@, you are SO RIGHT ABOUT SILVER. It is going to the moon. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Jamie P.S. Also think I'm going to buy some shares of silver mining companies. For people's reference and my rationale: <a href="http://online.barrons.com/article/SB123396545910358867.html?mod=djemWR&page=sp" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://online.barrons.com/article/SB123396545910358867.html?mod=djemWR&page=sp</a> <a href="http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_feb232009.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_feb232009.html</a> Read both!!!

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03-05-2009, 05:37 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJamie...no problem. I already know about the information you provided.

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03-05-2009, 01:34 PM

Posted By: JamieThanks Marshall, I'm sure you do, I just posted it for everyone else to take a look...

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03-05-2009, 08:21 PM

Posted By: BobIn the words of Lee Corso, "Not so fast my friend..." Go easy on cornering the silver market. The last guys who tried that got their asses kicked (Hunts).

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03-06-2009, 10:13 AM

Posted By: macboubeI finally figured it out. In real life you are James Bond, 007, and here you are just masquerading as MB (vintage card, horse racing, commodities, golf, rock n' roll, gambling, and bohemian life style expert). Liscensed to _______ ?

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03-06-2009, 10:16 AM

Posted By: Anthony S.Licensed. Too shrill.

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03-06-2009, 10:17 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLOL....macboube i just like action what can i say. In regards to cornering the market on silver nobody is implying that. Silver is a safe investment especially during times like this and believe me things are going to get alot worse so metals will rise against the strength of the dollar. I bought silver at 9.80 and today we are at 13.42 so i like my chances. My thought is silver will be at 20.00 a ounce by this Christmas.

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03-06-2009, 10:18 AM

Posted By: RedLicensed to "Bring the Noise"

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03-06-2009, 10:37 AM

Posted By: macboubeSuper Action Men !

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03-06-2009, 10:49 AM

Posted By: John"Wonka was calling me newbie" Let's keep the facts straight Wonka was calling you a braggart, instigator, attention seeker and at best a story teller. All of which wraps himself in a cloak of buzz words and dated extreme lifestyle expressions. Oh and with a just a touch of vulgar sprinkled on top. Just to be clear I don't doubt you have cards Marshall or the fact that you collect...I just doubt your spin on what you own. Marshall if you had a 10k card you would post and tell everyone it was million dollar card, and then you would proceed to tell everyone once again how cool you are. Also god forbid anyone correct you or disagrees then it becomes the Marshall show. I kind of like you though Marshall you make me laugh. You're the walking definition of irony love to tell everyone else their dorks while fighting on a board for baseball cards in cyberspace and telling evryone what a rock star you are. Funny when you think about it sort of like a guy walking out of a Star Trek convention dressed as Spock making fun of folks in line for the Star Wars convention.

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03-06-2009, 12:16 PM

Posted By: Jim VB"All of which wraps himself in a cloak of buzz words and dated extreme lifestyle expressions." I hear you John. I used to be with it. Then they changed what "it" was. Now, whatever I'm "with" is clearly not "it" and I don't see that changing.

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03-06-2009, 12:22 PM

Posted By: Joe D.Jeff - I briefly looked at the catalog and yes - it is awful. I'm not sure if it is the printing or just horrible scans / and design. Probably a little of both. I am going to look at it more closely tonight. That page with the background showing through the cards is inexcusable. That page leads me to believe this may not have been a printer issue / but rather just an inexperienced person putting the scans and layout together. Although - the printing may be at fault as well. Either way - a bad job. Maybe I should advertise in the Denver area.

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03-06-2009, 12:22 PM

Posted By: S GrossHomer: So I realized that being with my family is more important than being cool. Bart: Dad, what you just said was powerfully uncool. Homer: You know what the song says: "It's hip to be square." Lisa: That song is so lame. Homer: So lame that it's... cool? Bart and Lisa: No. Marge: Am I cool, kids? Bart and Lisa: No. Marge: Good. I'm glad. And that's what makes me cool, not caring, right? Bart and Lisa: No. Marge: Well, how the hell do you be cool? I feel like we've tried everything here. Homer: Wait, Marge. Maybe if you're truly cool, you don't need to be told you're cool. Bart: Well, sure you do. Lisa: How else would you know?

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03-06-2009, 12:53 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWonka...you do crack me up bro and i'm just waiting for you to raise the spaceship out of the muck oh Yoda wannabe. In regards to cards that i own let's just say that i am a result player and i'm very happy for what my cards sold for recently. You see my friend i am not in the hope business or tell stories as you have stated. I have never touted a card on Network 54 and made esculated claims about them. I just stated that i had some of the finest condition Southern Leaguer's in the hobby after you and other folks acted like i had nothing. Ahhhh by the way if you check the PSA pop report There was only 1 example graded higher than my Ted Breitenstein PSA 7 and the J.F. Kiernan PSA 7 old Mill is the finest example ever to be found hmmmmm. I'll stop there but there were several other cards that were extremely rare also. I'm to sharp of a cat to be skinned by a kitten so i'll let you and JimVB say whatever you like about who i am and what i own because it means nothing to me. There will be a day when i send more cards to auction after i grade them and i'll let you know how they do, i'm sure then you guys will say oh well you were lucky or that you cannot possibly have anymore cards and so on and so on. I recently have sold some of the finest examples ever found of American Beauties but oh that is right again just luck or hearsay blah blah blah. If anyone lives in outer space Wonka or make believe land perhaps look into the mirror. Why else does one call themselves Wonka?

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03-06-2009, 01:49 PM

Posted By: J LevineMarshall, I always wonder when people start self-promoting so much what they are trying to actually pump up...The people with truly impressive collections never seem to shout about it...they really never need to either... I never remember Frank Nagy screaming about how nice he has something... Heck, even Jim Crandall does not do this and his collection is one of the nicest I have seen... And if you really want nice, Mr. Preece has a truly impressive little collection that he rarely talks about. No need to self-promote, shout, tout your buys or anything else. So you have some nice cards...most of us have some nice cards (myself included)... As my grandfather told me, there is always someone nicer and smarter than you...you just have to be wise enough to spot them and learn from them. Do what you want with the advice but I think you might find even nicer things may come to you without the attitude and blowhard style... Joshua PS Not even sure why I try to educate anymore.

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03-06-2009, 02:03 PM

Posted By: John K. . . good post. He reminds me of Loudmouth Charlie Bratton, one of Jackie Gleason's great characters on his variety show.

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03-06-2009, 02:24 PM

Posted By: John"I have never touted a card on Network 54 and made esculated claims about them." Really must have been someone else typing below then my bad. Or perhaps you're right you didn't "esculate" any items you "escalated" them. You may want to check your sharp cat dictionary to make sure it's up to date.. "I think you like indian photos to and i own some of the rarest on the planet." "These cabinets are very rare and i have not seen another Sitting Bull with a peace pipe." <a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1232856407/last-1233064748/Baseball+team+Maroons+photos+1915" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1232856407/last-1233064748/Baseball+team+Maroons+photos+1915</a> You're right Marshall you're the man I'll just be silent now I don't have any cards in your league. Very sorry I crossed the rope at club greatness. Joshua nicely said I agree. To keep it in baseball terms and old girlfriend told me the guys who always talk about how big their Johnson's (T206) are well.... P.S. This kitten has claws..but this kitten also won't fire up the board with more Marshall Showtime drama because thats what you crave and it's pointless. I've said my peace take care Marshall. Also for the record I think folks know the score, number of card images and knowledge shared by silly Wonka compared to his greatness..

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03-06-2009, 03:05 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI do not have to drag in grandad memories or girlfriends thoughts when it comes to dealing with people. What i do understand is that for some reason people think their opinion is important or should be heard in regards to the last few posts. Also wonka please know that you put up those Indian card links and one of those cards closed at nearly 3800 at auction which was far from your 500 to 750 estimate. I do currently own 11 of them and there are two that are very rare and one could possibly be the only one that survived. Also the Deadwood photo i posted which is the only one known from that era to survive. I would never compare myself to Crandall or anyone else in regards to collecting because it is not who i am. I'm not into who has the most or has the biggest banana hammock because i have had no complaints from the ladies nor will i ever (-: Last week i was at the track looking at my little filly who has got major scat ability, she strikes the track perfect. My partner and i sent in 6 names and the name the Jock's club chose was Unbridled's Skyhawk because the filly is out of Unbridled's Song uhhhhhhh sound familiar? Eight Belles and this year's monster 3-year old Derby favorite Old Fashioned are out of Unbridled's Song, now the girl who grooms the horse starts explaining that the name is not right, she goes on and on about how i was wrong, kind of like this board does about what we should have called her, after about 10 minutes of listening to her gas i said well really doll i wanted to name the horse Get The Salami Tommy and my friend just lost it, well the girl got pissed and instantly i was th ebad guy. Now most folks will say well you should not have said that or you are not diplomatic or i guess we can throw tact right out the window.The moral of the story is when folks start talking sh*&t i just give it back and if that makes me a bad guy then i am a real bad M^%tha F*&ker case closed. In regards to J Levine i notice once all my fans start riding me on here that you will not be far behind. I think perhaps the only thing you could teach or educate someone on is the heckling class right now at NYU and i heard they are looking for a new teacher so i told the President you are top notch first rate old chap.

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03-06-2009, 03:16 PM

Posted By: David AtkatzMarshall, I think it's time you poured yourself a stiff shot of Shut the **** Up. Nobody gives a hoot about your horses, your cards, or your precious metals. And, if by "real bad M^%tha F*&ker" you mean "*******," you got that right.

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03-06-2009, 03:27 PM

Posted By: leonThat wasn't very nice. We do have some youngsters on the board.

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03-06-2009, 03:30 PM

Posted By: David AtkatzC'mon, Leon. I knew everything offensive would be asterisked out.

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03-06-2009, 03:33 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI'm sure everyone is real concerned about your thoughts David. In regards to the heckling section for tonight's concert i can reserve seat A210 for you.

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03-06-2009, 03:33 PM

Posted By: leonMy wife would find the *od *amn a little bit offensive. I would venture to guess a few other folks would too. Not the end of the world but cleaning it up would be better..

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03-06-2009, 03:45 PM

Posted By: David AtkatzCleaned it is.

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03-06-2009, 03:59 PM

Posted By: barrysloateWe're fighting on this thread and we even have another one about Jim Bunning which could get interesting...could be a fun night around here.

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03-06-2009, 04:08 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLOL......where is Billy Martin when you need him?

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03-06-2009, 04:27 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Nice to see Peter C. posting again.

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03-06-2009, 04:29 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmBarry -- you shouldn't be looking forward to a "fun night" around here for that type of stuff. Something is wrong. Reading your words, it makes me think I need to push myself away from the computer and go somewhere else.

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03-06-2009, 04:41 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanChao must be off his meds again.

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03-06-2009, 05:03 PM

Posted By: barrysloateI was being sarcastic Eric.

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03-06-2009, 05:14 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmOkay dude. I still think you are one of the good guys of the hobby. We need more of those.

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03-06-2009, 05:21 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanUh oh Barry next they will be talking about banishment. Didn't you know that a sense of humor and being sarcastic is the next topic. Someone will post asking Leon to make a rule where you cannot joke around or be sarcastic. Let's be very serious and only talk about old baseball players who walked a straight line and hit .238 for three seasons. I will be banned from the conversation since my favorite players are Ty Cobb,Shoeless Joe and Hal Chase. To round out my superfecta Pete Rose makes the ticket.

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03-06-2009, 05:25 PM

Posted By: barrysloateI'm okay, and nobody will be getting banned.

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03-06-2009, 05:55 PM

Posted By: Jim VBIf sarcasm is banned this will be a lonely board.

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03-06-2009, 05:57 PM

Posted By: J LevineI rest my case.

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03-06-2009, 06:09 PM

Posted By: Eric Brehmdeleted

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03-06-2009, 06:19 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanYeah we can sit around and talk about rare old tobacco cards that depict guys who were in the big leagues for a total of ten days who no one outside the vintage card world even knows because they hit .218 for a career. Then we and i do mean WE can listen to Dorskind talk about the economy and how the world is going to hell. CNN interview on how to be yourself at all times....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M9C6a1K0nI&feature=related

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03-07-2009, 08:58 AM

Posted By: scott dangoI CANT BELIEVE I WASTED 30 MINUTES READING THIS THREAD.....UGHHH serves me right reading a thread started by mr noise himself.....

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03-07-2009, 09:10 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanYou know what cracks me up is that a guy reads an entire post and then posts something that has nothing to do with the post. It is ok now Scott Wango because mommy has ducky ready in the bubble bath so you can stop whining now. Wheeeee....splash,splash, Wheeeeee.....splash,splash

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03-07-2009, 09:45 AM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyWhat's ironic is that it sounds like Marshall is making fun of "old baseball players who walked a straight line and hit .238 for three seasons" and it sounds like he may be making fun of us for caring about them. Then we find out his his only claim to fame here on this board (meaning the only pre-war baseball cards he has admitted to ever having owned) was selling a bunch of semi-no-name Southern League cards (regardless of their technical grades). Marshall, don't get me wrong, I love the no-name guys, they are what keep the hobby interesting for many of us. Many have been around long enough to have heard most/all the Ruth, Cobb, Joe Jackson, etc. stories and what excites us is discovering info on new players, players that were integral in the development of baseball, but have been largely forgotten through the years. You will find the vast majority of the people here are simply history buffs that also happen to be baseball card collectors. -Rhett

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03-07-2009, 09:48 AM

Posted By: Dan BrettaWell said Rhett! Marshall, I have been on the trail of a guy who played baseball over 100 years ago and never made it to the majors. It has been some of my most rewarding research I've ever done. Here's a thread I dedicated to that effort: http://tinyurl.com/bcn6kq

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03-07-2009, 10:24 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanDan & Rhett....i was not making fun of you guys for having a passion for rare old cards or common cards. My point was let's mix it up and if people want to be sarcastic then who cares, it would be awful boring just reading post after post about rare meaningless players. I enjoy reading about the rare common cards as well as off topic conversations and hall of famers. My personal opinion and choice of cards that i go after are only 4 players, while i buy and sell cards the only cards i keep are of these players. Yes i understand the cards that got sent to auction that graded the highest were Southern Leaguers but the Cobb 4.5, Two Johnson's 5, three Mathewsons and so on did great also. I kept the best conditioned Cobbs and Chase cards because of who were they were and why the fans watched them.

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03-07-2009, 10:52 AM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI understand perfectly Marshall. This board would be boring if it were all Cobb, Johnson, Matty and Jackson all the time. It would also be boring if it were all about the common guys who never made it big. The mix is what keeps it interesting.

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03-07-2009, 11:11 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWhat makes the board interesting is the diverse group of collectors and opinions. I would not even come on here if it were strict rules and single mindedness. What makes a baseball game great is the hottie three seats over, the manager spitting and kicking dust, the home run hit by the star player, the guy with two hot dogs wearing no underwear with pants falling down so his ass crack is hanging out when he stands up and shouts "hey ump you suck you freaking blind SOB", the no name player who wins the game in the ninth with a sacrifice bunt and so on. What i enjoy is the whole package and letting people be themselves.

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03-07-2009, 11:17 AM

Posted By: AnonymousThe definition of irony is Marshall complaining about talking about some guys who only played 3 days in the majors when he shouts to the world about the one round of golf that he shot at a qualifying tournament... I only collect 4 golfers...Jones, Arnold, Nickalus, and Woods.... Joshua

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03-07-2009, 11:25 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanAhhhhhh....the last time i checked the four players you mentioned are golfers and only golfers. If you asked any of those players who Chris Lord Alge is or Michael Stipe they would look at you like you are goofy. I understand completely that the players you collect are the best in the world at what they do because they have been doing it since birth. I wonder how the same players would play after being a part of a hard core rock scene until they were 29 and then try to play? Put a guitar and mike in Woods,Nicklaus or any other golfer and i think what we would have is laughter.

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03-07-2009, 11:47 AM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliI've heard your music, Marshall. And yeah, if you asked Bobby Jones who Michael Stipe was, he probably wouldn't know. -Al

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03-07-2009, 01:25 PM

Posted By: J LevineLet me get this straight...you couldn't make it as a rocker so you took up golf and now can't hack it as a golfer so you spend your time going to antique auctions and self-promoting? I would venture to say if you put a guitar in their (Woods, etc.) hands and they would be just about as successful as you have been. At least they can golf too! Joshua

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03-07-2009, 03:10 PM

Posted By: macboubeHe is the sole reason I continue to come back and read any/all posts that involves him. He is very entertaining in so many ways. He is the TJ Simers (LA Times Page 2 Sports Columnist) of this place. Marshall, keep it up baby !!!!! I love you, man.

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03-07-2009, 04:01 PM

Posted By: WonkaRemember that statement Marshall..or how about this one? "Ahhhh by the way if you check the PSA pop report There was only 1 example graded higher than my Ted Breitenstein PSA 7 and the J.F. Kiernan PSA 7 old Mill is the finest example ever to be found hmmmmm. I'll stop there but there were several other cards that were extremely rare also." Marshall once again your stories don't add up, the cards you talk about daily aren't the highest graded ever. I've been collecting T206's a long time and have kept pretty good records of sales. Just one sale alone came to mind and I'm sure if I was to dig thru my catalogs I could find many more. Seems in August 2000 quite a few of the same cards sold in at least one or two grades higher than yours perhaps the Kiernan didn't have an Old Mill back doesn't say but even if it didn't yawn. Still nicer Kiernan cards out there. As for Breitenstein seems in 2000 there were at least 2 PSA 8's... Once again a case of nice cards being tarnished by the overall attitude you have it's a shame really. <a href="http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/nudan92/?action=view&current=net54-1.jpg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/nudan92/net54-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/nudan92/?action=view&current=net54-2.jpg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/nudan92/net54-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> edited scan sizes

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03-07-2009, 04:05 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanYou know J Levine what i can't figure out is when i punch in your name into a search engine it comes up zero results.....ohhhhh.......that's right i forgot your a zero. Here is your quote.....Let me get this straight...you couldn't make it as a rocker so you took up golf and now can't hack it as a golfer so you spend your time going to antique auctions and self-promoting Well let's see i fu*&^cked countless models,raised hell whereever i went, and basically tore up South Beach for 4 years. I signed a independent record deal which allowed to me live in a 2.5 million dollar penthouse and have maids walk around naked while a puffed away on the finest of .....while playing a wonderful Fender strat at insane decibels. I have recorded with and met the some of the best minds in the history of music.....ohhhhhh that's right i forgot Chris Lord Alge is a nobody and so is Bruce Springsteen and Green Day. My name was branded in 2006 and Red Bull along with Penguin and other companies sponsored me when other golfers were trying to get their foot in the door.....oh that is right who cares because Red Bull is such a small company. I was on TV the whole 2006 season and FOX Sports Net did a exclusive interview in regards to both my musical and golf career because contrary to your dull ass some folks actually like characters who are not suck up ass kissers. How do you define make it as a rocker? You sound like some F&^%ing cheesy CNN reporter who has his banana hammock stretched up his..... I do not define making it by signing a major record deal so at the end of the day when a cd sells for 15 dollars after it is all said and done you make about 75 cents a cd because you have 4 different attorneys watching 2 different managers who are watching 2 different accounts who are sueing the record company because it's all bull****. Allan Jacoby had RCA records fly in and the A&R rep offered me a huge deal.......oh my.....could it be he said i was a superstar......Jeezzzzzz heavens no.....did he compare me to Iggy Pop because i tore up rooms and created total chaos.......ohhhhh no did he come to one of the shows and watch kids just go berzerk for a hour and tell me please come to Las Angeles and show the world my talent. You see JLevine i did make it....i just did not sign a major record deal becaus emoney is not what i seek......money does not control my life and i do not need people bowing down to me because i play rock-n-roll. What moves me and is my passion is freedom of expression both as a artist and human being. Did i really hit balls at Desert Mountain and hang out with Lyle Anderson and Jim Flick.......no that must have been a imposter.....was that me with Greg Owen grabbing the cash in the pro-pro in which i was 7 under thru 10 holes on my own ball...nah that could not have been me...... Did i really write and play almost all the instruments on my cd and have the balls to block my song from being played on K-Rok in Las angeles when other musicians were trying to blow their way to the top. Consider THE NOISE BROUGHT once again Mr.Levine and congrats on your 2nd place finish in the 10 annual jelking contest held in South Africa last month.

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03-07-2009, 04:14 PM

Posted By: JohnHey Marshall what I can't figure out is if you're so cool and so awesome and have such an amazing life...why do you care what Josh thinks of you. Also there are a lot of folks on here with pretty amazing lives and careers who also know famous folks. Don't be so quick to think you're the coolest guy on here like some sort of messiah of coolness sent to save us dorks. Also for the record Google isn't the defining rule of success funny how folks think it is...

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03-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWonka how about checking the PSA Pop report and maybe you can figure out there is a difference in backs. The cards i am speaking about in which i owned had Old Mill backs and the numbers i gave were correct in regards to the back.....oh i know Yoda like being.....you forgot there is a difference in backs just like you forgot about the fact the indian cabinet card brought 3500 when you valued it at 500-700. I do feel sorry for you though because try as you might little Opey Cunningham your facts are constantly out of whack. There is a difference in the backs of T-206 cards.....whoooaaaaaa.....does that mean a when you now go into the PSA pop-report that every back is present......ohhhh myyyyyyy..... I underdstand the difference between a Hal Chase with a Red Cross back in a PSA 5 holder and a Hal Chase in a Piedmont 7 holder....uhhhhhh i think i'll take the Red Cross. Dude if you are GOING TO BRING THE NOISE at least plug in the guitar.

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03-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliThat is the funniest post I've ever read on Net54. Hey Marshall: All that stuff about tearing up south beach and living in a multimillion dollar apartment and countless models? Bullsh!t. -Al

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03-07-2009, 04:21 PM

Posted By: joshI love the entertainment that this board brings. Keep up the good work!

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03-07-2009, 04:22 PM

Posted By: JohnMarshall it doesn't say what backs they were..and genius up until a few years ago PSA didn't track backs. And they also kept the Harris cards out of the general pop report..so the reports are all skewed. So when you're pimping some PSA 7's and there are at least a half a dozen other higher graded examples sold years before. It's not a stretch to think that Old Mill back is not so rare and there could be others graded prior. For a such a hip sharp cat thought you would know that. Yeah I'm new to T206 so I'm on pins and needle waiting for more gems of guidance from you..

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03-07-2009, 04:28 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWell Al it is not bull****....perhaps what you can do is very simple......i have a very good friend who is one of the best photographers in the world......ohhhh nooooo is that his photo on the front cover of SI when the Broncos won the Super Bowl......whoaaaaa.....did he actually do all the photography on Dan Marino,Troy Aikman,Mario Lemeaux,Dwayne Wade books and on and on.....jeeezzzz......did he follow my band for 4 years and party with me and take countless photos of naked women....... did he also take all the photos on my website...........did he actually in front of a national tv audience compare me to Kurt Cobain and say that i was ripping sh&^%t up long before Nirvana.......jeepppppeeerrrssss.....is his name Marc Serota? He probaly won't take your call Al but if he does you will see that in fact South Beach was my playground and outside of Marilyn Manson no one delivered the NOISE like yours truly. Now i know the rest of the hecklers will talk trash and consider this self promotion but i consider it facts and believe me i had a great time doing it.....ahhhhhh yeah baby.....in the words of Dice Clay- Mother Goose yeah i f &^%cked her!

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03-07-2009, 04:31 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWonka.....in all seriousness i do like you and make me laugh. I know you understand T-206's and also i am aware of the cards you posted. My knowledge in regards to other cards is no where near yours because i do not consider myself an expert. I have enough knowledge to grade and buy turn of the century itmes from a Matisse watercolor to a Ty-Cobb bat off shoulder.

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03-07-2009, 04:42 PM

Posted By: MVSNYCthank god for private boards.

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03-07-2009, 04:44 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliMarshall. A photographer compared you to Kurt? Congratulations. A janitor compared me to Einstein once. I guess I must bring the noise. What's the name of the indie label that put you up in the multimillion dollar penthouse, Marshall? How did an indie label get the cash to afford a multimillion dollar penthouse? What indie label has maids? If you didn't want a major label deal, why is it that your website says one of your goals is to have a Top 10 single? How are you going to have a Top 10 single without major label backing? Marshall, if you rock so hard and tore up South Beach, how come you only have 39 friends on your Myspace page, and there's not a single reference to your music "career" that I can find on a Google search, other than the ones you put on the internet yourself? Why is it that nobody has left a comment on your Myspace page in two years? I mean Marshall, you are THE MAN! You bring THE NOISE! Where's all the fans? If you and Marilyn Manson go hand-in-hand, why is it that he hasn't brought you along with him the way Trent Reznor did with Manson? If you lived in a 2.5 million dollar penthouse with naked maids and the world's best ganja, how long did the indie label give you to pay back your debt? Because they're surely not cross-collateralizing the bill against your hefty advance for your self-released, six-song EP. Please, Marshall. Explain to me why I can't find many reviews of your music? I mean, major labels are begging you to go to Los Angeles and show the world your talent - why haven't you recorded anything new since 2006? I mean Jesus, Marshall - the world is waiting for you to bring more noise! How long does it take such a talented musical icon, who was compared to Iggy Pop by an A&R guy, and who was compared to Kurt by a photographer, to record new music? Do we have to wait 17 years for your next noise, the way we had to wait 17 years for the awesome noise brought to us by Axl Rose? Please! Explain! But most importantly, I need to understand how an indie label can afford a 2.5 million dollar penthouse apartment in South Beach when they can't seem to help you update your website in three years. Thanks in advance for enlightening me about how the independent music business works; I could use the education. Eagerly awaiting your response, -Al edited to add more sarcasm.

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03-07-2009, 04:49 PM

Posted By: JohnAl..in Marshall's defense he said Las Angeles multiple times....I think it's north of Los Angeles?

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03-07-2009, 04:54 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliOh, sorry John - I didn't notice that. Las Angeles is in Bizarro World. I've heard of it, but I'm not allowed in. I don't bring enough noise. I should eat more burritos. -Al

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03-07-2009, 04:55 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmWhy is this conversation taking place? I can no longer distinguish between sincerity and sarcasm around here. It is only morbid curiosity that has gotten me this far. Leon, kill it!

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03-07-2009, 04:58 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliOh, come on, Eric - don't wreck my fun. I've got nothing else to do today. -Al

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03-07-2009, 05:01 PM

Posted By: JohnYeah Eric why did you just jump in...did the Mayor of Las Angeles get to you too??? My god how far up does this thing go?

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03-07-2009, 05:05 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmApparently I have nothing better to do today either. Carry on gents.

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03-07-2009, 05:11 PM

Posted By: JimCrandellMarshall, i believe you--keep it comin' Jim

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03-07-2009, 05:14 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliJim's just buttering up Marshall because he needs a place to stay next time he's in South Beach with his own band. -Al

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03-07-2009, 05:15 PM

Posted By: Richard SimonI think we have enough "information" at this point to write an unauthorized biography of Marshall,,, except who would publish it? Maybe he can set us up with some indie. Al - have you ever seen anyone who has such a need for attention as this guy? In the meantime, I am going to see John Leguizamo tonight and he and I are gonna get down and bring da noise after the show. Should be real exciting, he really knows how to bring it. He is my fourth cousin twice removed and he is always ringing me up to get down with him. Man, how lucky can I get. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> == I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Unknown author -- We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember. No retreat baby, no surrender. The Boss

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03-07-2009, 05:16 PM

Posted By: JohnAl, yeah Jim has very little in the way of high grade T206's he's shameless to try to add a few cards to his very lackluster collection. <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/smileys/143.gif" alt="[linked image]">

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03-07-2009, 05:21 PM

Posted By: John<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLyyPCbxnIU" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLyyPCbxnIU</a>

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03-07-2009, 05:38 PM

Posted By: Joann"I'm not into who has the most or has the biggest banana hammock because i have had no complaints from the ladies nor will i ever (-: " "cheesy CNN reporter who has his banana hammock stretched up his.." "i said well really doll i wanted to name the horse Get The Salami Tommy and my friend just lost it," "Well let's see i fu*&^cked countless models" "Mother Goose yeah i f &^%cked her!" Marshall, I find this kind of talk offensive and would appreciate it if you wouldn't do it so often. Also, please do not fire back at me with sexual comments. I don't care if you fire back - I'll even admit that once you called me a Barbara Walters wannabe and I almost smiled at that. I can take the firing back just as I dish it out. But if you do so with sexual and intimidating comments, I will ask the mods to do something about it. Leon, I saw earlier that you asked David for an edit because of a G-d that you mentioned someone like your wife might find offensive. I appreciate that, and please understand that I find things like the above equally offensive. All of these are from just one thread. I know many of the guys make occasional comments like this. This board will always have the "show us your Johnson" snickers lurking about, and I don't really mind that. I kind of ignore it and move on. But with Marshall it's part of his scenery to the point that it becomes offensive. I am asking that you consider this just as you considered that the religious swearing would be offensive to some. Thanking you both in advance. Joann

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03-07-2009, 05:48 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmComments that are degrading to women have no place in any conversation, public or private. Leon will take care of this.

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03-07-2009, 06:10 PM

Posted By: JamieAgreed

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03-07-2009, 06:26 PM

Posted By: Peter_SpaethPerhaps he should be honored in the same fashion as Messrs. Chao and Elkins.

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03-07-2009, 06:26 PM

Posted By: JamieTo be fair, however, I don't think it was right for folks to jump all over MB for his remark about us obsessing about guys who hit .218 and played 12 games. After all, it's true. Nothing wrong with poking a little fun at ourselves!

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03-07-2009, 09:02 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanGood evening neighbors, well i just got back from looking at a guy's collection and i am a bit cofused. He had a real old Shoeless Joe card that looked like a cigarette card but it was not, he also had a Ty Cobb bat on shoulder that was probably a 1 or 2 with American Beauty back so maybe i will buy the cards but the Shoeless Joe has me stumped. Now onward with Dah Dah Dah.........drumroll......BRINGING THE NOISE. You know what is odd and i do not understand is that people on here just act like they do not understand talent. For a board for of.....wheeeeeeeeeee......such highly intelligent people............and.....whoppeeeeeeeee......mora lly and politically correct individuals......how can someone compare a janitor to one of the best photographers on the planet? Does anyone have any idea how hard it is to land the Sports Illustrated cover? I also read where a guy was giving Lichtman hell for being a great defense attorney and making fun of him for having a website full of his accomplishments, the guy making fun of him is some boring wannabe stiff who could not teach a frog to jump much less comment about people or their accomplishments. In regards to Jim Crandall i do appreciate your collection and have the upmost respect for the enormous amount of cards you have, i was blowed away by the PSA photo and it truly does show your passion for card collecting which i have the upmost admiration for. I understand passion and also the word eccentric. Well now we shall address my hecklers and the new love of my life...........tongue hangs sideways as i get my fav BDSM mag out............Joann. Let's get the party started. Al C......the independent record label was Secret Records, it was owned by Stevie B.....ohhhhh nooooooo.......did he actually have the number 1 song in the land at the time.......your kiddingggggg meeeeeee..........did he have a recording studio in a 5 million dollar house just outside Ft.Lauderdale...........nooooo wayyyyyyyyyyy......he was not the guy who almost won a grammy for the Postman song.........ohhhhh that's rigghhhhhttttttt......... my attorney Alan Jacoby did not also represent Joe Walsh Brian Setzer and myself.......arrreeee youuu kiddinggg meeee....with the fact i went into Stevie B's office office with two of the hottest f*&^ing models in South Beach with a lit joint hanging from my mouth......oohhhh noooooo......he said joint....i better call Lichtman fast...... when Stevie wanted to hear my demo track that by the way i was paying for and no one was supposed to hear but the track rocked and it leaked out already and i knew Stevie heard it before he even asked.........ahhhhhhhh.......Stevie did not smile and say kid i don't know what rock you crawled out from under but this song rocks and i want you signed ASAP while he stared at my friends because they are....................so hot that Stevie's desk caught fire from their mere presence and......whoooooaaaaaaa.....there was not some cheesy hair slicked back scumbag attorney from Sony Records asking me a million questions as i wreaked of the finest aroma of Purple Haze and my ass still has lipmarks from his presentation. Also Al C i never said the independent label paid for my penthouse or any of my bills. Also remember this was 1991 so everything you see on myspace and my website are not those times. The cd on my website was paid for by me and so was all costs pards....you see much like a rapper i do not rely on folks to BRING THE NOISE. In today's world a major label is a waste of time. To address Brian Warner of Marilyn Manson and also the band. When Marilyn Manson first started the band was actually called Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids, Brian played really hardcore covers of Beatle songs while he girated around the stage constantly grabbing his banana hammock. I remeber talking to him after a show and he was a down to earth intelligent guy in my opinion who worked at Kinko's. Fast forward about a year and things change. I have recorded the demo and formed a band getting ready to play out. I come out at the first show in front of ten people because i wanted no advertising or any public awareness, my goal was to create music and actually see if word of mouth could travel and ........ohhhh nooooo.....it worked. People were talking about some crazy guy who just tore the room to shambles. Comparisons to Iggy Pop started happening right away. Well by the 5 show there was like 200 to 400 people and they were all like cool cat artistic types, models,fashion folks,art dealers,writers and surfers. Also every drug dealer in South Beach was there so look out below the room is stoned. Everyone loved the energy and chaos. Well I ran into Brian and things changed, he was standoffish and really just a different person, he was all about Satin and evil and just nonsense but it was just a act. My band opened for him one time because the club owner insisted and i got to the mike and said.....ladies and gentleman the f*&^ing most hilarious thing about this evening is Marilyn Manson and he can go f*&^ck himself along with all you other wannabe neo natzi *&^%%. I then jumped off stage and dove headfirst into a table that just started mayhem. The bar got destroyed and now Brian hated me. He demanded that my band never be allowed to play club Squeeze because all the artwork could be destroyed. I used to go to Squeeze and whistle at him like a little bitch and say.....here kitty kitty........ I am not proud of the things i did but i also will not hide from them. When you are 22 and completely out of your mind 24/7 throw the words rational thinking out. The reason why so many people i guess are in shock at the things i say is because America is used to this phony cheesy disarm you with a smile attitude........whooooaaaaaaaaa.....how did Bernie Madoff scam everyone.........was it because he stood for morally and correct thinking? Was it because he had a lovely family and was just such a honest guy? He scammed the idiots because they all bought the bag of sh*&^t he was selling and behind closed doors he stole their souls. You see folks i am my own person, i'm myself at all times love me or hate me, i change for no one, i do not put on a suit and tie or care to. I do not invest in Ponzi schemes or associate with stuff shirt wall street ass(*&^ trying to sell me bags of SH**. The reason i do not answer my website and myspace or update either is my own business. Personal family private matters are occuring so enough said. There will be a update in which everything will be explained as to why i have been sidelined for three seasons and my decisions why..... I could care less about corporate sponsorship or who likes me. I don't need public acceptance or Ceo's who want to be in my foursome during pro-ams. I would rather bang Roseanne Barr than have to sit at some boring dinner party watching corporate types try and outsmart each other at the game called posturing for full effect in front of folks. Whether or not it is a public or private message board makes no difference to me because i'm not two faced or put on a facade. Did Andrew Dice Clay go on CNN and start quoting the bible? No when the guy asked a question that was obviously stupid and belittled Dice he told the guy to go F&&%ck himself because that is what we do in Brooklyn and i just lost it. I admire dice for being himself just like i admire Jim morrison for singing his song on the Ed Sullivan show which got him banned. I admire Lenny Bruce Johnny Cash and Elvis Presley for their contribution to the arts and inspiration to millions of people........ohhhhhh that's right Johnny Cash's labeled dumped him when he said he was going to record Fulsom Prison Blues live at the prison......whoaaaaaaaaa.....all the super highly intelligent label execs who were so smart and predicted the album would bomb obviously did not understand human nature......ahhhhhh the album blew out and sold millions of copies.....whoaaaaaaaa....millions of girls loved elvis pumping and girating around like some afflicted porn star. In regards to Joannn......i will delete per Al C's wishes. What i will write however is why does this gal follow my every move? Is she like the informer for the Jane Fonda 2009 women's movement? Ifff you can't stand whatttttt theeeee Roccckkkkk issss Cooking then get out of the kitchen. Consider the NOISE BROUGHT

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03-07-2009, 09:08 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliMarshall, you make a lot of sounds, but no NOISE at all. -Al

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03-07-2009, 09:12 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanAt least i make sounds Al. As usual what started out as a harmless post has turned into Jerry Falwell and Barbara Walters and their band of merry followers trying to make me out like the bad guy. Now here we go with the banning and badgering Leon. I just read a whole Jim Bunning post where folks are calling each other idiots,insane losers and so forth. While i understand the intelligence in the Bunning post i also understand the underlying meaning.

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03-07-2009, 09:16 PM

Posted By: Jim VBMB, Leon just asked you to "fix" this post in the other thread and you moved it over here? Smart. Very smart. Al C., C'mon man he's got to be telling the truth! He has a friend with a camera who has taken pictures of naked women! What more proof could you ask for. The guy's for real!

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03-07-2009, 09:17 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliThanks, Marshall. -Al

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03-07-2009, 09:39 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanAl i do not care what you do. I have nothing to hide especially my personality. While others think i constantly seek attention i personally could care less because really the way i see it is that being critical of someone is simple being correct however is difficult, hence the simple minded explanations of attention seeker. I do not seek anything because i am not a seeker. I am someone very driven to be myself at all times and i do not change for the sake of a piece of dirty paper or any human being.

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03-07-2009, 10:16 PM

Posted By: DonMarshall is the sort of person who keeps out of date milk in his refrigerator.

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03-07-2009, 10:34 PM

Posted By: J LevineMarshall, Sorry, I went out with my girlfriend and did not see your posts until now. You still are not heeding my advice. There are people on this board who have led and are leading far more interesting lives than you have. The definition of not caring is not spouting off at the mouth. If you do not care what people think of you, then just talk baseball cards. A friend of mine once told me that the reason he does not say he is the greatest rocker is because he doesn't have to, the people will either believe it or they won't. I don't need to tell them what to think about me. As to a Google search of me...you are right...not a thing. Don't care. My life, my accomplishments, and my future are my own. I have several accomplishments in the education field, entertainment industry, charity work, and sports field. I rarely (almost never) self-promote them. I will talk about them with people I respect and will offer advice or knowledge when asked. The more you scream at me for pointing out your foibles, the more you make my point for me. If you really did not care what people thought about you, you would just post about cards. There are people on this board that have wonderfully full lives away from cards who do not often scream about who they slept with (supposedly) or who they hung out with (supposedly), etc. I know many people on the board and have come to personally respect them for both their hobby and more importantly their character. Jim Crandall and I do not see eye to eye politically at all. In fact, Jim probably cannot stand my liberal slant. I still like Jim because when it came down to it, Jim showed me respect. He shared knowledge of cards and his political stance without screaming, name calling, etc. Speaking of name calling. Your constant disgusting attitude towards our resident female contributor (Hi Joann) is horrible. If this is any indication of the way you treat women, I seriously doubt you are the ladies man you think you are. You wonder why people like me come out and bash you. I will tell you exactly why I started in on this thread. You bashed John. Period. You took a shot at someone whose knowledge of cards far outweighs yours (and mine) for no other reason than to shout into the wind. Marshall, I really am starting to feel sorry for you. You obviously have a lot to work through and I just do not think this vintage baseball card forum is the correct place for you. Really, get some help. This is a plea. I will be the first to welcome you back if you post about vintage cards in some kind of respectful manner. Joshua

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03-07-2009, 10:50 PM

Posted By: apualdThis is all going to end just like the recent Paris auction of some fashion guy's stuff. The high bidder will admit to being an employee of South Carolina, decry the fact Joe should be in the hall of fame; and then tell everyone, the amount he will make in a lifetime is less than one tenth of what he actually bid. Wow. Am I being to cynical? Probably. But you all gotta admit, being cynical, is way easy these days.... Sorry if you lose your buzz or whatever, APaulD.

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03-07-2009, 10:59 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLevine.......zzzzzzzzzz.....unghhhhhhhhhh........z zzzzzzzzzzz.....oh sorry i just woke up from your post. Dude your boy Wonka is just that Wonka. He ran his mouth about antiques and Indian cards and then ran to google or some present auction for his info which does not impress me. In regards to who and what you are great. Be yourself,hang out with your rocker friend and enjoy life. I already know why you posted and can read you like a book because my friend it is easy. You are no different than the other folks. You run from post to post just waiting to be critical of someone. Spouting off old grandad sayings and how wise you are. People who are wise and self assured to do not need to talk about grandad and all the lessons he taught them. Really you sound like some sappy old Joe Piscopo Saturday Night live skit. What i notice is folks like Jim Crandall,Jeff Lichtman,Leon and a few others actually talk cards. They do not constantly want to ban people or be critical of every single statement made. Case in point. I e-mailed Jim Crandall two times in regards to a card deal after he requested it. He never responded and i was like hmmmmm maybe he is just to cool for school. I posted that and wow newsflash.....Jim did not attack me........is this a dream........he did not whine to Leon like a three toothed fourth grader and want me banned......no what he did was say this....To my friend Marshall, i did not recieve your e-mails. I then apologized and could not understand why he did not get two of them because they were sent and it was over, no big drama over sensitive wahhhhhh......wahhhhhhh scene like it is with some of you. I understand you and Wonka are pals and great. Be buddies and have a good time. Wonka is a big boy and believe me i do not dislike the guy, if we met in person and argued over indian cabinet photos there would be no resentment to the tone. At baseball card shows i see folks argueing all the time but it is just the nature of collectibles, however on this board people act like this is life or death and wow talk about being sensitive.

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03-08-2009, 12:07 AM

Posted By: J LevineJust for the record...I have never asked for you to be banned...just to talk about cards. You mistake my advice to you for whining. Your loss. Joshua

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03-08-2009, 12:27 AM

Posted By: JohnMarshall I've talked and posted more about cards on this board than you ever have care to take that bet? Yet you have beef with me why? You say you respect Jeff and Leon because they talk cards...I don't post or talk cards...huh? Is it because I disagreed with your Indian CDV prices, or was it because I called you on the fact that you claimed that it was the only image of Sitting Bull known with a pipe which was also not true? Marshall it's not arguing about collectibles it's the fact that you call everyone a moron who disagrees with you. Here's the simple fact is you embellish everything to point that it is comical or just not believable. You talk down to everyone, you talk real uncalled smack to Joann. Also for the most part 99% of your posts are about futures, horseracing and fantasy rock star stories about how cool you are. The only cards you have posted on are a handful of above avg. T206's that you dont even own anymore. Amongst all the noise can you bring some cards or collecting knowledge to the board?? Can you do that..or is it more of the Marshall show? For the record I don't care if Leon bans you or not if Leon wants to be associated with your antics and attitude towards the rest of the folks on here that's his call. I'll just keep that in mind so will the rest I assume...but I do believe he asked you to cool your jets in the other post. I'm done with you guy, I suggest Josh and the rest do the same you're really just a waste of time and I'm done wasting my time. Seriously I'm done you go your way and I'll go mine no need to mention me every two seconds I'm flattered and all but time to move on for me. I hope you are adult enough to do the same? All I've tried to do with you is correct some card related issues I had with you nothing more nothing less....obviously you can't deal with that. Cheers, John

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03-08-2009, 01:25 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWonka....John ....Yoda.... chocolate covered candy face.....whoever you are.....first of all you came on a post where i was talking to Dan Bretta about indian cabinet cards because i noticed he had a few indian photos in a case one time when he posted, might i also add there was no drama and Dan and i had no problems. You started ranting and raving about your knowledge and how many cabinet cards you own and what a avid collector you are. You then ran to google and searched auctions and spouted some nonsense about the cards were not rare and the prices were down and some were not even bringing bids for 500-700........uhhhhhhh dear sir the card closed at 3500 but....golly jeeeee....let's not correct the smartest being on Network54 Mr.Wonka. The thread had nothing to do with you yet in you jumped with critical remarks and arrogance about knowledge. I'm no dummy wonka so why would i post the rare photos of the indian cabinet cards when you made an ass of yourself in regards to the Deadwood photo i own. You souunded like a bafoon in regards to that photograph so yeah you better stick to pre-war baseball cards because in the high end auction came you probably can't even spell Faberge or Matisse much less know the real deal from a fake. In regards to women. I like confidence in a gal. I do not like sappy Jane Fonda types and yes i do admit that spanking is alot of fun so i guess i'm going to hell for that. Really Wonka name a time i came into one of your posts where you were posting to another member and started spouting off. Also please understand that a Southern Leaguer in a PSA 7 that is the highest graded card in that category of backing is not just a rag of a card. I do believe Brian Drent described the card with accuracy in the catalogue and here is what it read for the record. 1909-11 JF Kiernan PSA 7. Surpassed by only five examples on PSA's heavily populated T206 "unknown back" database,offered is a recently graded example of Columbia's J.F. Kiernan. NM corners join NM/MT edges around two flawless and perfectly centered surfaces. The image itself exudes a tremendous and almost palpable freshness consistent with other examples from our excellently preserved T206 find in Pennsylvania. Needless to say, the offered specimen is the single highest graded Old Mill Kiernan out of 20 submissions to PSA since the Newport Beach graders started designating and tracking alternate T206 backs. Fit for only the most meticulous collections......ohhhh myyyy.....i guess Brian Drent does not know anything about cards......nahhhhhh......you are right oh chocolate faced being the card was just a ho hum 10 dollar item. Dude who do you think you are talking to? You say you are done with me. Bro it would be my pleasure if like about 8 to 10 of you creepy clowns would buzz off. The list goes like this Wonka,Al C,Jo Ann,JimVB,RobD,Jlevine and two or three others. I have bought many cards off folks and had 0 problems. I am in the middle of three deals right now and not once have i had a issue or arguement. The fact is because i do not take your gas or plead to Leon like little sappy brownie girls all of you are upset. If you and your little clan are so brilliant then go help the other 50 posts in regards to identifying cards or how to soak a card or whatever the deal is. My feelings are like a Old Rolling Stones song...Hey...Hey....you....you get off of my cloud. Don't come around because two is a crowd baby..... ohhhhhhh jeeez........did i say baby......ohhh mannnn.....i'm in trouble in now.....whewwwwwwwww....i forgot women do not like to be called baby.....i better call Mick and let him know that Jane Fonda is coming.

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03-08-2009, 01:34 AM

Posted By: leonI just can't have you continually fighting with a lot of the respected board members. While I have defended your existence here I also have to defend the community too. I wish you wouldn't cause so much anger on the board because I hate being put in the position where I have to do things that I don't like doing. Locking threads is one of them. Since this thread, too, has turned into a shouting match I guess I will lock it too. For the record I didn't lock the first one, one of the other moderators did, but I told him it was ok. I was sort of on the fence but I supported his decision. I think it's time to get back to talking about cards. If you want to do that, and not argue with everyone on the board, fine. If you don't then this is just not a good place to hang out. I am sure you understand my position. regards