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03-06-2009, 07:51 AM

Posted By: Rich BlackburnLong time lurker My father and I have been long time collectors, never have had cards graded before but my father wanted to try. The grades were pretty much expected, the only disappointments were the E90-2 Honus Wagner, N173 Dell Darling, and the E90-1 Buster Brown (did not meet minimum size), feel Wagner was better than the grade received. Will probably ask for a review. Can't wait for the National in Cleveland, live in Steubenville about 2.5 hours away. Well here's the submission. Any comments are welcome, will try to upload scans in the future. Thanks 1 1911 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 BOB BESCHER Hands In Air 40 2 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 JACK BLISS 40 3 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 MORDECAI BROWN Chicago On Shirt 30 4 1911 Piedmont Cigarettes T206 HOWIE CAMNITZ Hands Above Head 50 5 1910 Piedmont Cigarettes T206 FRANK DELEHANTY 30 6 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 TOM DOWNEY Batting 30 7 1911 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 JOHNNY EVERS With Bat, Chicago On Shirt 10 8 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 ED KONETCHY Glove Near Ground 40 9 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 TOMMY LEACH Bending Over 40 10 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 LEFTY LEIFIELD Batting 30 11 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 SHERRY MAGEE With Bat 40 12 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 GEORGE SCHIRM 30 13 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 FRED SNODGRASS Catching 30 14 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 JAKE THIELMAN 20 15 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 DOTS MILLER 30 16 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 JAKE PFEISTER Throwing 30 17 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 AMBROSE PUTTMAN 30 18 1909-11 Polar Bear T206 LEE QUILLEN 40 19 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 CHRISTY MATHEWSON White Cap 50 20 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 IRON MAN MCGINNITY 30 21 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 GEORGE MCQUILLAN With Bat 20 22 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 NEWT RANDALL 40 23 1910 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 JOHN TITUS 40 24 1911 Sweet Caporal Cigarettes T206 HOOKS WILTSE Portrait, With Cap 40 25 1910 Piedmont Cigarettes T206 IRV YOUNG 30 26 1911 Polar Bear T205 RUSSELL FORD White Cap 30 27 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 AL BRIDWELL 40 28 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 BUSTER BROWN 0 - S 29 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 FRED CLARKE Philadelphia 20 30 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 FRANK CORRIDON 30 31 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 SAM LEEVER 30 32 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 GEORGE MCQUILLAN 50 33 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 ORVAL OVERALL 10 34 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 LEW RICHIE 20 35 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 JOHNNY SEIGLE 40 36 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 FRED TENNEY 40 37 1909-11 American Caramel Co. E90-1 ROY THOMAS 40 38 1909 Croft's Candy E92 LARRY DOYLE With Bat 50 39 1909-10 Briggs Co. Lozenge Makers E97 JOE KELLY 30 40 1911 George Close Candy Co. E94 ART DEVLIN 50 41 1911 George Close Candy Co. E94 SHERRY MAGEE 40 42 1910 Nadja Caramels E104-II HAM HYATT 20 43 1910 Nadja Caramels E104-II SAM LEEVER 10 44 1910 Nadja Caramels E104-II NICK MADDOX 30 45 1910 Nadja Caramels E104-II DEACON PHILLIPPE 40 46 1910 American Caramel Co. E90-2 HONUS WAGNER 30 47 1888-89 Old Judge Cigarettes N173 DELL DARLING 50

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03-06-2009, 07:55 AM

Posted By: Rob D.Congrats, Rich. I'm going to type this quickly before lightning strikes me, but I think it's pretty exciting when someone receives his or her very first submission back from a grading company. I compare it to kind of like opening your first pack of cards of the season. (Back when collectors still opened packs at the start of a season, of course.)

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03-06-2009, 08:47 AM

Posted By: Frank WakefieldHey Rich, and welcome. If I may ask, what were/are you reasons for having cards graded, given that you've collected for years without grading? Thanks. Frank W.

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03-06-2009, 09:20 AM

Posted By: RedProbably for the same reason that most people have moved to indoor plumbing.

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03-06-2009, 09:24 AM

Posted By: rich blackburnThe grading was sometime my father really wanted to do. We started collecting together in 1976, I was in 6th grade. The first card show we went to was in Philadelphia in 1977, my father was the last bidder out on a 1952 Topps Set at that show, winning bid $950.00, oh well!

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03-06-2009, 09:30 AM

Posted By: peter ullmanRich...welcone...you and your dad must have a nice collection! I've been collecting about as long as you have...primarily vintage for almost 20 years now. I've only had cards graded for potential resale...because that's primarily where the value is in these services...resale. I'm sure you and your dad truly love your cards the way most of us do...so ultimately the slabs mean nothing...to me! Happy collecting...I'd love to see some pics of your cards! pete ullman ps...I bet your wags is nicer than mine! <img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/ullmandds/scan-2-1.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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03-06-2009, 09:52 AM

Posted By: Jim VBRich, Congrats on your first submission, and welcome to the board. As you can see from the responses you got, this board has had an ongoing debate about the relative merits of grading. (Fortunately, the board has come down, almost unanimously in favor of indoor plumbing.) Pay no attention if a skirmish breaks out in your thread. You didn't cause it. And it won't be settled today.

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03-06-2009, 12:28 PM

Posted By: Keith O\'Learywhen you get a chance Rich it would be appreciated. thanks, Keith