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02-24-2009, 04:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I suppose this predates my looking in on this board, but a couple months back I read the O'Keeffe book "The Card..." and I had some lingering doubts about some of the tell-all aspects of the story behind the "Gretsky" Wagner.<br><br>Basically, if the card was supposedly cut from a printer's sheet in a Long Island strip mall as O'Keefe claimed, what happened to the rest of the sheet? The guy who first sold the card for $20k claimed he was having financial difficulties and let it go because he needed the cash (it was a library book long ago returned so I can't recall his name). But if this guy did in fact have a printer's sheet, there would have been multiple Wagners on the sheet right? - when you see miscut cards, the same subject's name appears at the top of the card and this would be the only practical way to print them. So a sheet of uncut cards would have as many Wagners as it had rows. If the guy had a sheet and was in financial trouble, why didn't he cut more Wagners out and sell those? In other words, why haven't we seen a handful of NM cards come on the market in the last 15 years?<br><br>On the other hand, I recently happened upon a BIN from someone in Little Rock with a "jumbo" Wagner asking something like $2.5m. <br><br>All in all, the story in the book didn't make a whole lot of sense to me.<br><br>Anyone else who has read the book (or has an opinion in any event) come away with the same sense. <br><br>Just curious. <br>
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02-24-2009, 04:43 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>what about the uncut strip that barry halper used to own...that had/has a wagner on it...it is a horizontal strip. I'd guess the gretsky wags would have been cut from a similar...horizontal strip.<br><br>
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02-24-2009, 05:06 PM
Posted By: <b>chris</b><p>...so I HAVE to do this (it's kind of a National requirement)<br><br>It's Gretzky not Gretsky
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02-24-2009, 05:08 PM
Posted By: <b>David McDonald</b><p>Yeah. It's Gretzky with a zed. Get with the programme.<br><br>Just funnin', Peter. <br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/June08/ML_Smiley.jpg" alt="[linked image]">
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02-24-2009, 05:15 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>sorry guys...I'm not canadian...i can't spell hockey players' names...not even "the great one!"<br>
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02-24-2009, 06:28 PM
Posted By: <b>George</b><p>The venue was not in a strip mall. It was in Bob Sevchuk's store on Jerusalem Avenue in Hicksville, which is indeed on Long Island. It was an old-fahioned store, with old wood floors and lots of dust. And it had a back room. What went on in there, no one knows. Actually, some people do know, but they are not talking at the present time.
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02-24-2009, 06:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Don</b><p>Was Wagner even released in Piedmont packs or are all Piedmont Wagners cut from sheets?
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02-24-2009, 06:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Fandango</b><p>if there were more (from a sheet) they would have surfaced by now...especially how public the last few sales were....<br><br>thats the only wag that will ever come close to that grade...<br><br>any "new finds" would certainly be beaters.....
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02-24-2009, 08:06 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>The only other known Piedmont Wagner is oversized and handcut. It resembles a scrap, not a factory cut card put in a pack.
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02-25-2009, 06:50 AM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...is that it was a strip not a sheet, and there was only one Wagner on the strip.<br><br>This card has been discussed a lot on here. Check my Net54 T206 archive here for more details:<br><br><a href="http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewll4b/t206collector/id44.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://mysite.verizon.net/vzewll4b/t206collector/id44.html</a><br><br><br><br>_ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ <u></u> _ _ <br><br>Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for Net54 T206 archive, signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!