t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ?? [Archive]

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02-18-2009, 08:01 AM

Posted By: DanI have some T206's and these I have never tried to see how common they are in the T206 world. Does anyone know if they are gradeable also, thx, dan <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1234972444.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1234972432.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1234972477.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1234972460.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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02-18-2009, 08:06 AM

Posted By: Joe D.very cool looking cards and very desirable to many collectors. I don't think the grading will matter much when it comes to the value of these cards - but if you do want them in a slab, I believe both PSA and SGC would encapsulate them. The number grade is meaningless and they possibly would just receive an 'A', which also would have no effect on the value of these cards. The value comes from their coolness. great cards - thanks for showing them.

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02-18-2009, 08:24 AM

Posted By: mark s.is that NOT the incredibly rare & highly desirable alfred e. newman rookie card?

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02-18-2009, 08:35 AM

Posted By: Scott LevyYour examples are somewhat extreme which makes them rather collectible amongst print error collectors. The ghost image should get a number grade. Kruger may only get an 'A'. Both cards will absolutely sell in excess of common pricing. Regards, Scott

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02-18-2009, 08:52 AM

Posted By: Marty OgelvieMark, that does look a lot like Alfred E. Newman.. spooky huh? marty

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02-18-2009, 08:59 AM

Posted By: Danthank you for your responses, Mad Magazine reference, nice <a href="http://www.dccomics.com/mad" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.dccomics.com/mad</a>/ I also have a rough looking Evers portrait t206 that has a Sweet Caporal back that looks like it says 130 Subjects, Is that common. thx, dan

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02-18-2009, 09:05 AM

Posted By: Mark AndersonI can't answer for SGC or PSA, but barring evidence of alteration, these could both be given numerical grades by Beckett (BVG). The errors could be notated on the labels as well. Great looking cards! I thought that first one, at first glance, looked like the old lady from the American Gothic painting. If so, this would be her pre-rookie as the painting is from 1930 <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

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02-18-2009, 09:16 AM

Posted By: boxingcardmanThese are desirable cards but in this economy, all bets are off as far as how they'd do at auction. If you'd like to see more freaky prints, my site has a batch: <a href="http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/freaksandgeeks" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/freaksandgeeks</a>

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02-18-2009, 09:34 AM

Posted By: Kevin SaucierI can't answer for SGC or PSA, but barring evidence of alteration, these could both be given numerical grades by Beckett (BVG). The errors could be notated on the labels as well. Which is why I have chosen Beckett to holder my print/card errors. They also offer UV protection, a non-slip inner sleeve, and are virtually indestructible. There is simply no match if you want your card protected! Those examples are awesome! Kevin Saucier ------------------------------ <a href="http://www.AlteredCards.com" rel="nofollow">www.AlteredCards.com</a> - in-depth education on advanced card doctoring techniques & detection with detailed examples

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02-18-2009, 09:41 AM

Posted By: AnonymousMARK ANDERSON --- I have a question for you about BVG. Could you please shoot me an email scottglevy@yahoo.com Regards, Scott

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02-18-2009, 10:55 AM

Posted By: T206Collector...on T206Museum.com at one point? I feel like I saw that ghost image maybe 7 or 8 years ago, maybe even before I ever saw a proper Weimer. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for Net54 T206 archive, signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!

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02-18-2009, 11:26 AM

Posted By: DanI have never seen another one, only heard of it. Would like to see another,

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02-18-2009, 12:03 PM

Posted By: barry arnoldwhether these are graded or not, these 206 anomalies are great finds. congrats. best, barry

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02-18-2009, 12:18 PM

Posted By: J HullThe Kruger was part of a Mastro lot a couple years ago... <a href="http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20 Information&LotIndex=75587" rel="nofollow">Mastro Lot</a>

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02-18-2009, 12:23 PM

Posted By: DanI have had my card for over 20 years, Wow, very cool to see another one though, thank you so much for remembering, awesome, dan

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02-18-2009, 03:17 PM

Posted By: Art M.Dan, Thanks for posting these really neat T206 errors. Hard to believe that 100 years later two of the Kruger misprints (yours and the Mastro example) have survived. Pretty sure these two came from the same sheet. Art <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1234998906.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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02-18-2009, 04:20 PM

Posted By: Dan LundriganI believe I may have an uncataloged version as well.Presenting the ALFRED E. KRUGER!!!!! <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1235002712.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> OFF TO SGC! WHAT ME WORRY?

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02-18-2009, 04:51 PM

Posted By: mark s.dan l.- i believe that is the more common "mouth open" variation...