T206....460-only Series....checklist & backs [Archive]

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02-04-2009, 08:13 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe final T206 series comprises 48 Subjects and was issued late 1910 to early 1911 (depending on the various T-backs). 460-only Series......48 cards Abbaticcio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands in air) Bridwell (cap) Camnitz (arms at side) Camnitz (arms up) Chance (bat) Chase (Trophy) Crandall (cap) Devore Doyle (portrait) Duffy Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hands at waist) Hummell Kleinow (Boston) Lake (with ball) Latham Marquard (follow thru) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Merkle (throwing) Meyers Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (bat) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schaefer (Washington) Schulte (back view) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (bat) Seymour (portrait) Sheckard (glove) F. Smith (Chicago & Boston) H. Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on) Wheat Wiltse (portrait w/cap) T-back scans will follow in next post. TED Z

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02-04-2009, 03:49 PM

Posted By: RayBThis actually looks doable. 48 cards? Are there any really tough ones here Ted? RayB

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02-04-2009, 05:27 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThere are as many as 17 different backs that each of the 48 Subjects in the 460-only Series can be found with. These top 5 backs are moderately tough to find in this series. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/array460only12backs.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> .............................these 7 backs....\/....are very tough to find in this series...../\ <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/backsovcycle460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> The Piedmont 460 Factory 42 has been confirmed on only 12 cards in this series. I will list the known Piedmont 460 Factory 42 cards shortly in another post. And, let's not overlook the Broad Leaf 460 back. This extremely rare back will be covered in my next post. OK guys & gals, The Monster gets complicated when you consider all these various T-backs......I welcome all questions ? TED Z

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02-04-2009, 05:44 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe toughest one is Frank Smith (Chi & Bos). This card does not exist with Sovereign 460. Kleinow (Bos) can be tough also. This card, also, does not exist with Sovereign 460. The remaining 46 are about equally available. TED Z

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02-04-2009, 05:58 PM

Posted By: RayBFor clarification on EPDG; are you saying that if I have an example of any of the cards on this list with an EPDG back, that the EPDG card in question would be a 460 Series? RayB

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02-04-2009, 08:34 PM

Posted By: Dave HornishA BL 460 was just BIN'd on Ebay, nice price: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dyfszp" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dyfszp</a>

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02-04-2009, 11:52 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYes, it certainly is a 460 series card. There have not been too many EPDG cards found in this series. TED Z

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02-05-2009, 07:30 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisRegarding the BROAD LEAF 460 back in this series, only one has been confirmed.....Kleinow (Boston). But, since Kleinow (Boston) is really considered to be a 350/460 Subject (without any 350 backs).... it can be stated that no 460-only cards are found with the BROAD LEAF 460 back. But, I am not 100% certain of this fact, since a Schaefer (Washington) card is rumored to exist. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/broadleaf460back.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> TED Z

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02-05-2009, 10:08 AM

Posted By: Scott B.Ted, Isn't SC 350-460 subject f42 is part of this series? I am talking about the regular f42 NOT the one with the wave bar overprint.

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02-05-2009, 11:32 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYou have anticipated my next post. I am going to post the remaining backs and post a list of the few Piedmont 460 Fac. 42 cards in this series. TED Z

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02-05-2009, 11:56 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe following backs in the 460-only Series are easy to find and are listed in order of their availability...... 1st......PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 25 2nd......SWEET CAP 460 Fac 30 3rd......SWEET CAP 460 Fac 42 (overprint) 4th......SWEET CAP 460 Fac 42 However, the SWEET CAP 460 Fac 25....is very tough to find. Conversely, the PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42 is very rare in the 460-only Series. We have not found any more beyond the following 12 cards printed with the P460/42 back...... Bergen (catching) Chase (Trophy) Devore Kleinow (Boston) Latham Merkle (throwing) Murray (portrait) Overall (blue sky) Schaefer (Washington) Seymour (portrait) Smith (Boston & Chicago) Wiltse (portrait-cap) The relative scarcity of the P460/42 in this Series is evident in two independent surveys. Both of which indicated that ONE of approx. every 355 - PIEDMONT 460's is a P460/42 card. Checkout your PIEDMONT 460's. You might be surprised to find that you have a P460/42 ? And, if it's not on this list, please let's know about it ? ? Thanks, TED Z

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02-07-2009, 02:16 PM

Posted By: B.C.DanielsBroadleaf 460* had one,sold it to Doug Allen who sold it to Terry Knouse BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

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02-07-2009, 09:24 PM

Posted By: Jim RiveraMatty white cap Broad Leaf 460 does not exist. Had tobe the dark cap Matty.