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01-25-2009, 11:54 AM

Posted By: Dan BrettaMarshall, if you bought it anywhere near Chambersburg then I don't doubt it could sell for more than $200. I've purchased similar photos for less and sometimes I've paid more. Photos can be tricky to try and value. I once paid $250 for a framed 1929 Philadelphia A's panorama at a local auction....and I've also paid $900 for a 42" panorama of the 1911 Lincoln minor league team. I paid $80 for a 25" panorama of the 1912 Madison Giants (Nebraska Independent League) on ebay. The most important thing is that you like it. If you're happy with what you paid for it then you did good. Some of these photos do have a haunting quality which I also like in a photo.

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01-25-2009, 12:06 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanDan....you stole the one photo for 80.00 so congrats on that score. I think you like indian photos to and i own some of the rarest on the planet. I know some of these board members think i'm crazy and talk smack but over time they will learn that i'm the real deal and do not lie about items i own. Check out these photos bro and they are Dakota Territory which makes them prior to 1889. Once again it's all about BRINGING THE NOISE.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232913976.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-25-2009, 12:58 PM

Posted By: marshall barkman<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232917155.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-25-2009, 01:25 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaNice cabinets Marshall. Do you have any 19th century baseball cabinet photos?

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01-25-2009, 01:50 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanYes but they are in a vault several states away. I'll probably never part with those, however on the Indian photos i'm going to sell them. I have 11 total and i'm currently listening to offers.

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01-25-2009, 09:25 PM

Posted By: John"I think you like indian photos to and i own some of the rarest on the planet." Really Marshall as an avid CDV and photo collector I wasn't aware that these D.F. Barry shots of indians were all that rare? Some are scarce but rare is a big jump. I would love to see some truly rare stuff post away. I would also say around 200-300 bucks on the above baseball photo.

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01-25-2009, 09:33 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaYeah, the indian photos by Barry are not that rare, but they do bring big money...The two that Marshall pictured are not in very good shape though.

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01-25-2009, 09:49 PM

Posted By: JohnDan I agree. But I wouldn't say big money a year back or so it wasn't odd to see more obscure images and poses pull 1k to 1.5k each for really good shape ones. But as of late even really top quality ones are having a hard time getting even 600-900 opening bids.

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01-25-2009, 10:59 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJohn... you are off my man. The Barry cabinets you are looking at are ones when he relocated to Wisconsin. The one i have pictured is Dakota Territory and also marked Bismark. It is very rare. Show me another one.

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01-25-2009, 11:18 PM

Posted By: JohnHere's a few for starters... <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-DOG-by-D-F-Barry-Lakota-Indian-Custer-Bighorn_W0QQitemZ330300650149QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAr t_Photo_Images?hash=item330300650149&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3 A1318" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/LOW-DOG-by-D-F-Barry-Lakota-Indian-Custer-Bighorn_W0QQitemZ330300650149QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAr t_Photo_Images?hash=item330300650149&_trksid=p3286 .c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3 A1318</a> <a href="http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-chief-joseph-0" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-chief-joseph-0</a> <a href="http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-curley-1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/df-barry-cabinet-card-curley-1</a> <a href="http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2635620" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2635620</a> Marshall really dont think I'm that off, rare is a pretty big word tossed around way to much in this world. The 2 above are nice items a little rough but nice. But my point is they are around and not impossible to find the above took me less than 30 seconds to find. When dozens upon dozens of items come up over years that's not rare Marshall that's scarce at best. You may bring the noise but I'm just brining you a little reality that's all...no need to over inflate items you have the above CDV's are nice enough. John

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01-25-2009, 11:34 PM

Posted By: JohnMarshall not only rare but I quote.."i own some of the rarest on the planet"...and to that I say really? Love to see them.

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01-25-2009, 11:39 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI'm not trying to overinflate the photos. The indians you are looking at are more common. Just like in baseball cards some are more scarce than others. I think the cabinets are worth somewhere between 500 and 1500 and 3000 for the rarer ones.

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01-25-2009, 11:42 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI don't think you can find another Running Antelope and also Big Deer. If you do my hat is off. These cabinets are very rare and i have not seen another Sitting Bull with a peace pipe.

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01-26-2009, 12:05 AM

Posted By: JohnMarshall there are plenty of Sitting Bull images featuring the peace pipe above. As I'm sure on Running Antelope as well.... Many of these images were used over and over and cropped many ways so all of them have a bit of a different feel. However there are plenty of them yours are not the only ones see below right from the LOC, just type in Sitting Bull look familiar? <a href="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/mdbquery.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/mdbquery.html</a> This doesnt even count the countless images of Native Americans held in private collections.

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01-26-2009, 12:21 AM

Posted By: John<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/websize/3c11147v.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/websize/Running_Antelope_Cabinet_Card.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> Wis. but still an image...

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01-26-2009, 01:21 AM

Posted By: Ryan ChristoffI think Marshall should post a pic of a Chief Joseph cabinet and then say "I will post no more, forever." -Ryan

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01-26-2009, 01:46 AM

Posted By: David McDonaldCareful, Ryan. Navy SEALS have been dispatched to Boulder. Hilarity to ensue.

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01-26-2009, 07:15 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJohn...the Running Antelope is Superior Wisconsin and i think the one i have is is likely to be one of the first ones made. I was not able to find the Sitting Bull so you get much deserved props. Maybe my cabinets are not the rarest ones on the planet but they are still hard to find. I'm glad you shared the information because all i could find months ago when i researched them was Cowan's auction results.

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01-26-2009, 07:46 AM

Posted By: RhysNot to beat a dead horse, but Dan is right about the value of your Chambersburg piece and just because you paid more for it than the FMV, does not make it worth that on the open market. I have owned several Chambersburg photos as well as literally thousands of minor league photos from this area (player and teams) which are earlier and nicer than yours as well as hundreds of other minor league cabinets and team photos and if your photo brought more than $200 in an auction I would be shocked. If it is worth more than that to you, that is great and there is nothing wrong with buying what you like, but this is an area where I can asure you that I have more experience than you and it is about a $200 photo or less.

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01-26-2009, 09:09 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanRhys....or whatever your username is. You remind me of like the guy who always states "i don't mean to be rude" and then he goes ahead and is rude. If you don't mean to beat a dead horse then why beat it? I'm not really concerned about your opinion on the photo because anyone that can spell horse understands most minor league team photos fetch between 50 and 200 dollars if they have size to them. What makes a photo great is the aura not just the players. You remind me of like this suedo art guy i know who runs to Askart or Davenport to figure out art values and then stands around dumbfounded when a painting sells for 50,000 when the previous highest listing was 15,000. I was not disagreeing with Dan on the value. All i said was that he would not have got his bid card up on this particular piece. I'm sure he has paid more than fair market value for items that he wanted as we all do. All antiques are subjective and here is a prime example. A friend of mine bought a Abraham Lincoln signed log-book that came from a ball he attended in DC, also their was over 100 other autographs in the book that consisted of Sam Houston,Dolly Madison and so on. He bought the book at Bonham & Butterfields which is a major auction house in San Fran Ca for 5,500. He held the book for 6 months and then ran it here in Pa at a small auction house called Pa onsite and it brought 33,000 plus 15% buyer premium. I have never claimed to be a expert on baseball items but i do have enough knowledge to be dangerous if the right items are up for sale.

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01-26-2009, 09:18 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI have owned several Chambersburg photos as well as literally thousands of minor league photos from this area (player and teams) which are earlier and nicer than yours as well as hundreds of other minor league cabinets and..... Bro i know all the major collectors in this area and photos are tough to come by. The only thing that is plentiful is Nellie fox items. Hershey, Harrisburg and bigger cities i have seen but that is it. Your remark on owning 1000's of photos is retarded. In my 3 years of attending auctions in this region i have seen 2 baseball photos from estates, none in antique shops and only a handful in private collections. Since you have 1000's then just show me say 10 photos of the Maroons from the 1915-1925 time period that you own.

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01-26-2009, 09:21 AM

Posted By: Steve F You say repeatedly, that you don't take things seriously here yet, continue to be a horse's ass. Don't stomp your feet and whine if Another knows more than you about a subject. If you can't take it, then pick up your Cowboys and Indians and go home. I can't believe people here continue to help this ingrate.

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01-26-2009, 09:24 AM

Posted By: JohnMarshall I have lived in PA for many years Rhys is correct there are pleanty of small minor league images around. From large to small to PC etc.

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01-26-2009, 09:35 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSteve...man bro you must be having a tough month so go change the rag my man. I'm not whining or complaining, actually your post did wonders for the all time whiner award. I believe if you scroll up i was talking to Dan about the photo and then showed him some cabinet cards which was no big deal. As usual per this board here comes the bored stiffs that are miserable and they love to feel as if they are part of a group so most chime in with critical and personal remarks which i do not take serious. You should change your emoticon to Bring the Tampax.

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01-26-2009, 09:39 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJohn...i'm not doubting what you say but i never see them. One thing is for sure there is not thousands. I'm only talking about the Chambersburg,Greencastle,Carlisle area. I'm sure Western Pa towards Pittsburgh there may be alot. There is about 10 antique stores i visit once a week and i never see anyhting old baseball not just photos. What i do see is alot of Civil War GAR photos.

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01-26-2009, 09:55 AM

Posted By: leonPlease try to be more civil on the board. I understand the whole deal. You don't need to tell me you are only defending yourself etc etc...I got it...All I am asking is that you try to get along a little better...take care and......thanks

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01-26-2009, 10:00 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLeon... a guy calls me a horse's ass and a ingrate so what do you expect. If your gonna throw the flag for flagrant foul then at least grab both parties.

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01-26-2009, 10:09 AM

Posted By: Steve FJeez, ya didn't have to rat me out!.. Okay, Marshall, I apologize for calling you an ingrate.

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01-26-2009, 10:14 AM

Posted By: leonAs I said, I understand. You need to remember we consider each other a family on Net54. A dysfunctional one maybe, but a family nonetheless. So, if you attack someone, or call someone that is well respected, like Rhys, a retard.....then realize others will come to their defense. I consider everyone on the board a friend, including you, so please do me this small favor....thanks man!!

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01-26-2009, 10:21 AM

Posted By: barrysloateMarshall- you do realize that whether you feel attacked or not, you are in the middle of an awful lot of these disagreements. Steve, John, and Rhys are well respected members of the board and have been here a long time. I think we would all appreciate a friendlier tone. I'm glad you posted some neat early photos, but why fight over this stuff?

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01-26-2009, 10:23 AM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyMarshall, Rhys isn't speaking out of his butt here, this piece is exactly is exactly the kind of piece he deals in. The photo is nice and may be worth more than $200 to someone, but not by too much. Here is Rhys's website so that you can see the type and quality of stuff he deals in. <a href="http://prewarsports.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://prewarsports.com</a>/ You are VERY defensive, people here are giving it to you straight--something I would think you of all people would appreciate. You seem to have a knack for talking down to the some of the most knowledgable people in the entire hobby after they try to lend you a hand. Heaven knows we have all paid too much for something that we thought was cool. This piece is a typical piece that may perform better at a show (where size and quality can be appreciated) that it would on ebay, where those same qualities often go unnoticed. -Rhett

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01-26-2009, 10:26 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSteve....it's all good and i really don't care what you call me.

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01-26-2009, 11:04 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWell Barry i just find it odd that someone states they have 1000's of early baseball photos from my area which i know is not true, my bad for calling the guy a retard. The area i am currently at is highly collected and sought after because of the scarcity of items. Any Clyde Laughlin post card in regards to the turnpike or train wrecks is worth hundreds of dollars. Also Mont Alto and Chambersburg have avid collectors who could care less about money when it comes to aquiring items because of the scarcity. In regards to John i was not really even talking to him about the Indian photos and then he claims to be a avid collector of CDV's and photos but has to search to find Indian ones. I will also add that my cabinet is hand signed by Barry not printed. Jeez if he were so avid a collector and Indian photos are so plentiful then i figure the guy had about 50 or so laying around and would not have to search for them online. I really never questioned Dan about his remark on the value of the photo. All i said was at the auction he would never got a bid card in the air which was true so i meant the guy no harm. What i think is hilarious about some guys on this board is that they read my posts. Trust me if i don't like a person,band or gal then i do not go near them. Really maybe perhaps if these chaps who do not care for me would just skip my posts all would be good. There was no problem between Dan and i regarding the post and i did find John to be helpful in the situation but we differ on opinion as to how rare the cabinets are. In regards to Leon's comments Baseball cards and antiques are a business to me pure and simple. I figured this to be a public message board which anyone can join to do research and buy-sell old baseball cards. I mean what kind of people talk about family deaths and private matters over a public message board? I'm not looking to join a family because i have one and call me old school but i keep a close watch on this heart of mine, i keep my eyes wide open all the time. I'm also not looking to argue or fight with folks but if i disagree then i'll speak my mind. If someone calls me a ingrate then i call someone a retard so who cares? Leon is cool and i think he is hilarious but to many people try and hold the guy over a barrel in regards to me. In the 70's Nashville and record execs gave up on Johnny Cash. In his last gig with Columbia records here was his response which i just love, the guy was very ballsy and took zero slack from negative naysayers. Now that is how you BRING THE NOISE to the critics baby (-:,<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232996647.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 11:09 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanRhys....your site is very impressive and i'm sure you are a expert on baseball photos however there was no photo from my area on it. Believe me bro i don't think 1000's were even produced. In regards to Clyde Laughlin the photographer from shippensburg he only made 20 to 30 panoramic views of the 1906 Shippensburg team which i sold for 750.00 and he was the most famous photographer in the area.

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01-26-2009, 11:15 AM

Posted By: leonI have several Johnny Cash DVD's. I listen to him a fair bit. I like Hank Williams Sr. even better though. Now there was a renegrade and truly great musician. I never get tired of hearing his Honky Tonk. I think a lot of rock and roll originated from old bluesy country and western singers...btw, You don't need to be part of the family to join our board but over the longhall a lot of fighting will be frowned upon.......take care

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01-26-2009, 11:39 AM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLeon...i met Hank the 3rd while living in Nashville and he is hilarious and i love Hank Sr. I'm really not trying to fight with folks but if i disagree then there is a onslaught of negative and critical remarks which i reply to. To me these guys have egos the size of Terrel Owens and half of them don't produce the goods they claim to own. A guy claims to have 1000's of photos from my area yet on his website he has 0. The truth of the matter is when i post something these folks just kind of swarm and then when one gets critical here comes the entire pack with the banning comments when i respond back. It is all hilarious to me and in regards to the Chambersburg photo i spoke to a gentleman who is regarded very highly in his knowledge on Chambersburg items especially baseball. He said there would possibly have been photos made of that team for members of the team and also possibly 5 to 10 more for the business elite. He also stated the condition of my photo would make it all the more rare because it is perfect still in the original frame untouched. To me something is rare if their is only like 20 to 50 ever made because most will be damaged or destroyed. Items that are one of a kind are not considered rare, they are considered what they are which is the only item in the world known to exist so bid accordingly.

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01-26-2009, 11:50 AM

Posted By: leonAgain, I get it. For the record...with what I collect....20-50 is very common...I enjoy things where less than 5 are known. I probably have at least 100 such cards. Don't ask me to prove it <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">. I think we can all see what goes on and I usually do defend you somewhat....but I don't like it when you call my friends names...and vice versa, they shouldn't be piling on you either......take care (here's a 1 of 1 for you) <img src="http://luckeycards.com/pe222awa.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 11:54 AM

Posted By: John"In regards to John i was not really even talking to him about the Indian photos and then he claims to be a avid collector of CDV's and photos but has to search to find Indian ones. I will also add that my cabinet is hand signed by Barry not printed. Jeez if he were so avid a collector and Indian photos are so plentiful then i figure the guy had about 50 or so laying around and would not have to search for them online." First off Marshall I said I was an avid collector of CDVs I didnt say Native American CDVs did I? Secondly having collected CDVs and photos Im aware of Native American images and rough values and when you posted those above and said "I own some of the rarest on the planet" based on those images I would disagree. I looked on the net because you called me out and said good luck finding another image of Sitting Bull with a peace pipe. Wow a whole 2 seconds and what did I find? Lots of the same image not surprising as its one of the most popular and reproduced images of Sitting Bull but being such an expert Im not sure how that slipped by you? Your type has come and gone on this board time and time again. You kick in the door talk a big game produce very little in the way of substance to backup outlandish claims, then get your feelings hurt in the process of calling everyone else idiots. There are many folks on here with much bigger collections and wallets compared to you but they dont need to bring the noise. Why you ask? Simple those who do have nothing to prove, those who talk big game generally have very little in the way of substance. Of course I cant wait to be proven wrong, but I think all that will be provided is more noise and insults and very little in the way of substance. Perhaps you should try to bring a little humility or silence vs. noise you might make a few friends and learn a thing or two. And as for people on here with big egos I dont see anyone else acting like you. Also just because nobody understands or likes you doesnt make you an artist or extreme person. John P.S. You are no Johnny Cash guy...the only thing you have in common with Cash is you may own an article or two of black clothing.

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01-26-2009, 12:00 PM

Posted By: Steve FWell done John. Wish I had your control. I'm CERTAIN our new 'Man in Black' will be receptive to your suggestion <img src="/images/wink.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="wink.gif">

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01-26-2009, 12:10 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWell first John i agreed that i was wrong on the Sitting Bull piece and also thanked you for finding the info. Second you produced no image of Big Deer and third the image you produced of Running Antelope was a Wisconsin piece that was not hand signed. I doubt that you even own one Indian cabinet much less a hand signed one by Barry. Yes my cards were sold at Milehigh and yes the Harry Bay brought 1700 and yes two of the Southern Leaguers are the highest graded on the PSA pop report so enough said in regards to that. In regards to the Johnny Cash comment you do not even know me so we'll let that one be. One thing is for damn sure Johnny Cash is not hanging with any dude called Willy Wonka.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233000519.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 12:14 PM

Posted By: RhysMarshall I never said I owned thousands of Chambersburg photos, that would be ridiculous. I have owned several thousand minor league team and individual photos from this time period for all teams. I have owned probably 40-50 from Chambersburg including the estate of John Bowers who was a native from Chambersburg and played for them, as well as managing their teams thoughout the 1900's until the 1930's. This collection alone included several team photos, minor league real photo postcards, contracts from when he played for them, team correspondances etc. Several hundred items aside from the photos mentioned. I know a thing or two about memorabilia from this area of the country. I sold much nicer photos than yours for about $200 and was hard pressed to get that and had to sit on them for a while. I was simply stating that just because you claim somthing to be worth X amount, or pay a certain amount for something, does not make it so. I could say much more here but I wont, I dont want to regret anything tomorrow morning. Best of luck in your collecting Marshall. Rhys

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01-26-2009, 12:25 PM

Posted By: JohnI clearly said I dont collect Native American CDV's but had knowledge of them. Perhaps you can go back and read my post again. Bring the hooked on phonics vs. the noise next time and you will be able to read what I post. But hey wow what a shock more noise and no substance, Marshall at least your dependable sort of like a Swiss time piece of BS. P.S. For your size ego and trash talk I would pack a little more heat than 2 PSA low pop Southern League cards, 2 beat CDVs and a $200 minor league photo just FYI. But hey you don't care right that's why your going to reply and cry to this post...cause you don't care and you're a rockstar.LOL

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01-26-2009, 12:27 PM

Posted By: James ToddI always find it funny when so much posturing goes on in reference to something so un-tough as collecting baseball memorabilia. I'm sure ping pong enthusiasts fight too, but come on.

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01-26-2009, 12:29 PM

Posted By: leonMarshall....here ya go buddy...this should set ya'..... <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233001725.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 12:31 PM

Posted By: Jim VBIn this case, does PhD. stand for "Piled higher & Deeper"?

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01-26-2009, 12:32 PM

Posted By: Rawn HillLooks like a train wreck to me, but hey, it's fun to deal with egos. Rawn

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01-26-2009, 12:33 PM

Posted By: James ToddI think it stands for Please Hit Delete

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01-26-2009, 12:45 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLet me tell you of another photo i currently own. No it's not rare and i don't produce any goods. Both museums in Deadwood do not have a baseball team photo nor do they know anyone who does because they were all destroyed in fires. No Seth Bullock and Sal Starr are not sitting in the bleachers, also that is not the individual in the middle who personally buried Calamity Jane and also Wild Bill Hickock. No all the players are not identified on the back and it is not in it's original period frame. Also there is no known photo of Al Swearigan ever found just possible guesses at a few and that is fact. He just may be sitting to the right of Seth Bullock. Now how about a friendly bet of say 10,000 cash since you are so affluent John and such a high roller that and know me so well and you will see what i own. Go ahead and call the Adams museum and see if the curator has one there or knows of one anywhere. Bro you have no idea what i own or anything about me. All your doing is speculating from things i have said on this board and people like yourself are ahhhhh BBBOOOOORRRRIINNNGGGG. No i also am not currently in charge of selling the family farm in Luray Va with Sloans & Kenyon. Go ahead all knowing one pick up the phone and call Sloans and Kenyon which is located in Bethesda and ask for Stephanie Kenyon who is the CEO and personal friend of mine and see if what i state is true. It is the only farm where General Stonewall Jackson and also Union General James Meade used as headquarters during the civil war. No my great grandfather did not fight in the civil war under Stonewall Jackson and also the farm is not 210 acres listed on the historical registry. I would post a pic for you but it is to large. MAJOR NOISE IS BROUGHT but their is no exaggerating to what i own.

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01-26-2009, 12:51 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJohn...the cards sold for almost 40,000 as a package and the Sothern Leaguers which i believe to be around 40 total were some of the finest to exist so show me a auction result where you landed 40k. Also these cards are only the beginning to what i own. Rhys i to have some things from The Bowers estate including a 1923 Pittsburgh Pirates team signed ball dedicated to clyde Barnhart. No hard feelings bro and good luck to you as well in regards to your collecting.

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01-26-2009, 12:51 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLeon...we need more cowbell. Where in the hell is the cowbell baby?

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01-26-2009, 12:53 PM

Posted By: Rawn HillNow this is just silly. Rawn

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01-26-2009, 01:06 PM

Posted By: JohnYawn...why I should have to bet or pay you to see any real or imagined items you're the one talking big game. All I'm saying is what we all are thinking great love to see it...so far nothing that warrants all the NOISE. I have no intention of playing any of your games or falling into your fantasy land. REAL collectors post items of rarity all the time on this board without childish games...and NOISE they do it because they are collectors not to show off how big their Johnson's are unless it's actually a Johnson. Like I said I'll wait to eat my words...no substance all NOISE nothing new what a shock. Tick, tick, tick go Ol' Swiss Time BS Marshall. Done chatting with you now I'll wait till some substance hits the table. Metaphorically speaking I don't play poker with folks unless I know they can cover the ante. Bring the SUBSTANCE.

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01-26-2009, 01:07 PM

Posted By: TimIt's a shame some great collections are wasted on those without class.

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01-26-2009, 01:18 PM

Posted By: Rawn HillOK, let's let Marshall resurrect the 1 of 1 thread. Rawn

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01-26-2009, 01:24 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWell from what i see Wonka you put me in a category of folks who do not produce goods. I have done nothing to warrant that type of accusation and generally when i produce the goods the busy little bees just fly away.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233005141.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 01:32 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanNo it does not belong to me. It's just all make believe. Man bro i could post some sick pics of items i own but i know it just ruins the sale when it goes to auction. The Deadwood photo is one of my favorites because i dig Seth Bullock and generally speaking a photo of him is considered rare in certain circles. I'm quite sure when it goes to auction that a collector of Western memorabilia or historical towns will beat the baseball guys on bidding. From all the people i have talked to it is the only known existing photo of a Deadwood baseball team that is turn of the century, to my knowledge it is the oldest existing photo on the planet. Also i might add i'm sure Deadwood fans from all over may like the item because the series on HBO created a cultural following hence the website was created. Both museums have interest in the photo and plan on bidding when i decide what to do with it.

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01-26-2009, 01:32 PM

Posted By: JohnNeat item, not sure it's as amazing as you make it out to be after reading your disc. of the above CDV's I have to take everything you say with a grain of salt sorry. So is the above image worth all the noise I say no... John

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01-26-2009, 01:54 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSimply because you do not follow western folklore John. Here are some facts for you. Seth bullock was close friends with Ted Roosevelt and he also was responsible for the divide of South & North Dakota into statehood. He played a major role in the developement of Mt. Rushmore and also was the territories first real Sheriff.In regards to Swearigan There is currently a 1,000,000 bounty set by a private colector for anyone who can produce a image of Al Swearigan and have it identified as such by the experts. You see John baseball guys always want famous players or someone like Rube Wadell in the photo. Most baseball folks could care less about the rareity of a item if a hall of famer is not in it. To a museum like the one in Deadwood though a team baseball picture with heroes of the town is worth it's weight in gold and would mean alot to them in order to display it because it is a part of the towns history. Here is case in point. A friend of mine bought a Ranch 101 painting in Philadelphia at a high end art auction. All the so called art experts were there and everyone boo-hooed the painting and swayed around the room smelling each other's farts and criticizing the painting . It was a gentleman riding a cowboy delivering mail to Ranch 101 and was dated in the mid 1800's. He bought the painting for 600 dollars and really no one even paid any attention. I listened to what his plan was and thought who cares what these bozos think because all they know is Daniel Garber, Scott Duncanson, Earl Moran and so on. One art dealer asked me why we bought it and i replied because i think it may be worth 5 figures, he scoffed and said SUCKER and then walked off. My buddy then sent the painting to Waco Texas to a high end auction house and it blew out for 28,500 plus 15% buyer premium. Not everyone is a expert all the time and my theory is different horses for different courses. The painting made the front page of the Antique Monthly so i know the folks in Philadelphia were shocked and i wonder how the art dealer feels who called me a sucker is doing with his 4,000 watercolor that is now worth 2000 because of the economy?

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01-26-2009, 01:58 PM

Posted By: J LevineMarshall does not understand that he is not #1...he is the classic little dog barking at the big dog...he is the bully who finally finds someone bigger, badder and better and starts to whine and cry...attention seeker. I have no doubt Marshall has a nice collection and some knowledge about baseball. What Marshall does not have is more experience in baseball photos than Rhys, more general knowledge and class than John, and the respect of the board. Just as a comparison Marshall...Ted and Scott R. know more about t206s than I ever will and the difference between them and you is that they do not self-promote, they do not take everything seriously, and when shown they are wrong about something, they admit it and move on with thanks and respect. Marshall, you need to learn respect. I was just starting to respect you when you actually posted something of interest and then it all went away... Joshua PS There are literally 25 people who post on this board that have rare museum quality pieces. You are not unique in this respect.

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01-26-2009, 02:04 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanHere is a pic of the farm and i will admit this. It is very humbling to walk the same halls that Stonewall Jackson and James Meade have walked, Meade after all banged Mary Todd so Lincoln challenged him to a duel which Meade accepted, Lincoln did not show up after his advisors told him it would not be wise. Also what is scary is that my great grandfather was so well thought of by the Union army that his barn was not burned and was the only barn in Paige county to not be burned. Asking price is 4.5 million but nahhhh i don't own anything and i'm not involved in any affluent business deals. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233007513.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 02:05 PM

Posted By: leonAll of these paintings and photos are sort of neat. Eventually this is going to be a pre-wwII baseball card chatboard again though. If you care to talk about pre-war baseball cards this is the best place on the net. IF you don't care to talk about baseball cards, and pre-wwII ones at that, then this is not going to be a good place for you.....or anyone for that matter. Nothing personal at all. It's the same rules for all...best regards

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01-26-2009, 02:05 PM

Posted By: peter ullmanthat's "duel."

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01-26-2009, 02:10 PM

Posted By: barrysloatePeter- that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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01-26-2009, 02:11 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSorry Leon....i love all antiques and when challenged do understand quite a bit about all antiques not just baseball cards. In regards to the Deadwood photo i have already turned down a offer of 20,000 from a gentleman who resides in Deadwood. John basically in so many words said i have showed nothing in his opinion that was rare but let's just say he is not the all knowing when it comes to baseball items or Indian cabinet cards. I admit that in regards to the Sitting Bull piece my thoughts were wrong, as to the hand signed Barry Running Antelope i'll be alright in my estimation of what it is worth. I'll stick to baseball from here on out and where is the cowbell?

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01-26-2009, 02:11 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaMarshall = Slater from the movie Dazed and Confused? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3D1PM2pQ7E" target="_new">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3D1PM2pQ7E</a>

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01-26-2009, 02:15 PM

Posted By: J LevineMarshall needs to pay more attention in school...the duel that never happened had nothing to do with Shields sleeping with Mary Todd. It had to do with a series of well known satiric letters that Lincoln had written under assumed names about Shields inadequacies as Illinois Auditor. Todd and Jayne, two of Lincoln friends, also wrote letters, and it ballooned up into many other people writing about Shields to point where he finally challenged Lincoln to a duel...Lincoln did go to the duel...he won it as well when Shields yielded... Joshua

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01-26-2009, 02:21 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanThanks Peter. Really i'm not mad at anyone or think any of you folks are bad people. When it comes to antiques like pre war baseball cards we all have different opinions to values and such. While i differ in opinion with John and others i have no beef with them personally. I understand the high end auction game well and it is my playground. I am quite positive in regards to the Deadwood photo that most of you would not even be concerned about it. To me it is a piece of history because it combines Baseball with the old west and it is a 1 of 1 from the research i have done.

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01-26-2009, 02:22 PM

Posted By: SteveThis thread just gave me a headache Steve

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01-26-2009, 02:27 PM

Posted By: Rob D.I had a steak for dinner last night. It was really, well, you know ... <img src="http://z.about.com/d/bbq/1/5/Z/K/steak_rare.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 02:29 PM

Posted By: barrysloateGood steaks are rare these days, so don't order yours well done.

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01-26-2009, 02:30 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanJoshua.... not true. You need to check other Civil War historical documneted facts. It is well known Meade was a rough character and would have killed Lincoln instantly. It is also true he had a thing for Mary Todd and Lincoln challenged him to a dual over what many historians believe to be a affair between the two. What you are reading is political cover up over the incident. Courage and Country is a psycho-biographical study of General James Shields, and his times, written by psychiatrist-journalist Dr. Sean Callan, after five years of in depth research in Ireland and America. Shields, an off-the-boat Irishman, was elected U.S. Senator from three different states, was the only commander to defeat Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson in open combat, was a State Supreme Court Justice who advanced womens rights, was described as a knight-errant who lived too late, was one of the few nineteenth century national figures accepted equally on both sides of the Mason-Dixon divide, and was a man who crossed swords figuratively and almost literally with Abraham Lincoln, the US President. Courage and Country, depicting American history from a different perspective, includes a reinterpretation of the psychological motivations underlying the swords-in-hand face off between Shields and Lincoln on the banks of the mighty Mississippi River in 1842. The inescapable conclusion is that the near duel resulted more from passion over a woman than politics. Shields proved time and again that persistence pays off. His amazing achievements did not spring merely from luck; they resulted from dogged determination and time-tested techniques that still apply today. How Shields succeeded is spelled out in this riveting account of life, politics, intensity and inspiration on the American frontier.

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01-26-2009, 02:31 PM

Posted By: Jim VBWould someone be so kind as to drop me an email as soon as Marshall writes any post pertaining to vintage baseball cards? First we had a thread about the grading of some non-sports cards. Then we agonized through one about PSA and the tribulations of their mailroom. Now we're closing in on 100 posts about a neat picture (belongs on the Memorabilia board, not here), some Indian CDV's (again, neat but not this board), ranch ownership, and the Civil War. If I ever get said email, I'll read his stuff again.

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01-26-2009, 02:33 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanLast post from me in regards to Shields......To all appearances, James Shields was striding tall in the Summer of 1842, since, as State Auditor of Public Accounts, he moved in circles of power and carried considerable clout. He was well paid, single, and could come and go as he pleased. On the surface, he should not have had a care in the world but, in the turbulent world of prairie politics where windstorms could level a house in a few seconds, there was stormy weather ahead. It would involve the temperamental Miss Mary Todd and, her husband to be, Abraham Lincoln, the redoubtable Whig leader. Before the dust finally settled in late September, a chain of events had culminated into a situation where not only was Shields political life imperiled but his mortality as well. By the same token, Lincolns survival was in jeopardy too and, in retrospect, had the scenario played out differently, someone else would have been the sixteenth President of the United States; there might not have been a civil war, and the whole map of America might be different.

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01-26-2009, 02:33 PM

Posted By: SeanDid you write that? <a href="http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~18515.aspx" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~18515.aspx</a>

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01-26-2009, 02:37 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanSorry Jim. I'm heading out and indeed apologize for BRINGING THE NOISE. You can go back to trying to figure out if someone is scamming a member out of 60 bucks or does Ty Cobb backed cards belong in the set. I'm not posting anymore in regards to this thread but i suspect sevral folks will. Get ready for some football because the Birds will be flying high on Sunday getting 7.

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01-26-2009, 02:37 PM

Posted By: J LevineMarshall, Thanks for the cut and paste...I will however look up your book and maybe do some reading. I do however believe that it was more politically motivated than just a lover's spat and that Shields was tenacious in what he did and very successful at most things just because he was stubborn and smart but you never know... From Marshall's same source: "Shields and Mary socialized frequently, and had ample opportunity to vet each other as potential marriage partners, but at the end of the night, the free spirited Shields would scarcely have cared for Marys Patrician temperament and tart tongue. He demonstrated repeatedly, that he preferred girls of the old fashioned type,..." Joshua

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01-26-2009, 02:39 PM

Posted By: barrysloateI think Marshall has officially taken over this board.

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01-26-2009, 02:41 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Over/under on additional posts Marshall makes in this thread: 5.5

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01-26-2009, 02:42 PM

Posted By: JDRUM72 hour moratorium on political threads over yet? I need some relief. JK! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

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01-26-2009, 02:43 PM

Posted By: JoannYeah. And irritating and offending people. Wow. Never saw that coming. Joann

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01-26-2009, 02:47 PM

Posted By: Steven FinleyReading your threads is like having a conversation with a Christopher Walken. A Christopher Walken who is in the late stages of dementia. But it's good for a laugh.

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01-26-2009, 03:08 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanWell hey there goes my good pal Joann. How are you this evening doll? What is amazing to me is that all the people who only want to read baseball posts read mine. You know there is going to be major noise so why bother checking out the post. Most of you folks remind of like these people who go to concerts and once inside they start whining the guitars are to loud so they leave and complain about the noise level. The acoustic room is down the hall to the left folks where the VW bus is parked outside. Levine i just pasted that because it really is the truth. In my opinion Shields had a fling with the gal and then when she got to close and smothered the guy he got turned off and started seeking other women, the guy was a womanizer and his actions fit the bill. Oh i almost forgot, welcome to the party Joann, Vegas has you 1/9 to start whining about some guy who offended you with a spanking comment. I feel a tidal wave of BRING THE NOISE haters about to show up and then yep you guessed it Vegas has it a dead lock that the witch hunt will start and Leon will get bothered with the banning deal zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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01-26-2009, 03:12 PM

Posted By: Rob D.I'm not posting anymore in regards to this thread but i suspect sevral folks will. Over/under now 4.5

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01-26-2009, 03:15 PM

Posted By: Anthony S.Bring The Noisome.

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01-26-2009, 03:19 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Anthony, you brought to mind one of my favorite Cleveland Browns of the 1980s: Ozzie Noisome.

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01-26-2009, 03:26 PM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyMan you are full of it. Add plagiarism to his list of offenses (sweet cut-and-paste job there). You talk big and then bring noise but no substance. I've been meaning to ask you what you actually do for a living, cause you ain't supporting yourself with your music or golf careers. You simply aren't going to be able to hold your own on a forum full of Doctors, Lawyers, Educators, and other highly educated professionals. On a side note: If you were honestly offered $20,000 for a 1904 Deadwood town team photo, you better go find the guy and cash in (if wasn't just a joke). -Rhett (hoping Marshall brings something other than white noise)

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01-26-2009, 03:27 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanI had to post Rob because a dear friend arrived Barbara Bush errrr Joann. Ladies and Gentleman in the red corner we have Al C,Wonka,Joann,Levine,Quan,Ryan Christoff,David Mcdonald, Rhett and others and in the blue corner we have Shoelessjj and about 9 folks who e-mail me about what a pain in the ass these people are but do not want to start trouble on the board for fear of being banned or attacked constantly when they post. No matter how it shakes out when i post on here it generally goes over 100 which means we are all having fun baby so yep in the immortal words of Chuck D BRING THE NOISE!

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01-26-2009, 03:29 PM

Posted By: leonOver/under now 3.5

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01-26-2009, 03:31 PM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyFunny, from here it looks like you are standing in the corner all by yourself!

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01-26-2009, 03:31 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Luckily, I have the over. I expect to cash my ticket within the hour. To be honest, it was like stealing money: very easy to predict. Edited to add: I did not, however, put anything on the "All the supportive people who e-mail me" proposition bet. Missed that one. Dang it.

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01-26-2009, 03:38 PM

Posted By: barrysloateMarshall- why do you post on this board? And what do you get out of it? Every time there is a thread in which you participate you become the center of the universe. Why do all the other board members have to listen to this crap? Okay, my turn to get attacked. Here goes...

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01-26-2009, 03:40 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanRhett.... i only posted it stating what a man wrote who researched the incident so sorry for not saying ok here is a example from the book. Man bro are you slllllooowwwwww. Allow me to explain something to you Rhett, i do understand the powerful people who are members on this board and when it comes to money if they want something 20,000 is like 20 dollars. I travel in the same circle of folks just so happens none are interested in baseball cards and most of my friends are not politically correct. Now if you have a Reginald Marsh period New York burlesque scene or Chinese libation cup made from the horn of a rhino from Sumatra then that is a whole different story but i doubt if you know who Reginald Marsh or where Sumatra is located. Really some folks who pay attention to my posts may learn something outside the baseball card world and one day be at a auction and buy a high end piece of art due to me mentioning certain artists or antiques now wouldn't that be something.

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01-26-2009, 03:43 PM

Posted By: jay woltLeon - Please lock this nonsense

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01-26-2009, 03:48 PM

Posted By: TimIt's all self-aggrandizing. It's obvious when he starts the thread the point is to create conflict and become the center of attention. If Marshall were here to participate in a vintage baseball discussion he wouldn't make such an effort to keep the conversation about himself rather than the cards. *Edited to add: Every one of our posts feeds the monster.

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01-26-2009, 03:53 PM

Posted By: Rob D.I'm not posting anymore in regards to this thread but i suspect sevral folks will. Over/under now 2.5

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01-26-2009, 03:54 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanRob...last post kid so Vegas steals your money. Barry i'm not gonna attack you because if you do not like my posts just go to the main board and skip mine. Truth is you like to see what in the hell is going on. You remind me of the guy who is driving his wife to bingo and passes the strip club and pays no attention. On the way home however drives by real slow to take a gander if some long legs happen to be standing outside. The thing that is so comical is how am i the center of attention? There is a whole message board full of interesting topics and baseball cards. This is only 1 post out of hundreds and it is mine so i will say what is on my mind in it. Trust me if Joann,Wonka,Levine or others post i just skip over it because i have no interest, why would i post on their post knowing it will only cause conflict because we are much different people. The folks that e-mail me know who they are and what was said and i'll keep the info private. What would be great though is that if they posted their thoughts we would really have something rocking on the main board trust me on that one.

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01-26-2009, 03:55 PM

Posted By: leonOver/under now 2.5

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01-26-2009, 03:57 PM

Posted By: barrysloateMaybe everybody should skip over your posts. Nobody really needs to read them. You're just writing for your own entertainment.

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01-26-2009, 03:57 PM

Posted By: leonOver/under now 1.5

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01-26-2009, 04:03 PM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyOkay Marshall, I'll bite, you like to put others down, I get that, but now back it up. Where is your education from, where did you go to school. What do you do when not writing drivel on internet chat rooms? You have called people "retarded" when in fact they are highly educated Attorney's. You call high-class ladies "doll" and threaten to spank them. You have also questioned my intelligence, great, but just so you know, when people speak to me, they call me Dr. Yeakley. Back it up "Bro" bring your noise! Let us know from where your fountain of infinite knowledge springs forth from. -Rhett What's the over-under on Marshall actually answering my questions?

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01-26-2009, 04:10 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Court jesters, also once the center of attention: <img src="http://www.costume-shop.com/images/products/80082.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 04:27 PM

Posted By: SteveMy head still hurts. Steve

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01-26-2009, 04:38 PM

Posted By: J LevineMy new favorite Marshallism... "...it really is the truth. In my opinion..." Whiplash anyone? Is it truth or opinion? Truth: Marshall likes to brag. Opinion: This makes him an ass. Marshall, people come on and read your posts because they like to laugh at the little boy still shouting into the wind. I admit, I do have a problem when it comes to people like you. I just have to correct them and try to teach them manners, respect, and grammar (teacher in me) but at least I know I have a problem. Same thing happens with car wrecks. You, my friend, are the car wreck or this board. Joshua

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01-26-2009, 04:42 PM

Posted By: John<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/websize/InternetToughGuy.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/websize/internetdickwad_1.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 04:48 PM

Posted By: marshall barkmanRhett... i really don't enjoy putting others down bro. i just don't take slack from folks that is all. If you are so highly educated and smart then hmmmmmm let's see maybe if you go to the website there is only like 20 or so articles about who i am and also a bio page. I grew up around Mobsters,gangsters,bookies and the racetrack. When i was 16 i hit a trifecta for 19,000 with a friend of mine who is no longer with us, he was a bookie and said kid you got some moxy to put a 99 to one shot on top. I enjoy gambling and love people who have alot of confidence in themselves. I like watching the movie Cobb and see him bet someone that he can hit a single,steal second, third and home at 10 to one odds. I love watching old clips of ali telling everyone how pretty he is and predicting knockouts. The picture below was taken by a ESPN photographer, he asked me before the round what my chances were and i said book it pards because i am here to win, his response was awful cocky since there is proven PGA Tour winners in the field. You see Rhett in order to shoot 68 when no one else believes you can or everyone thinks you are some freak with weird clothes who can't possibly beat proven winners on the PGA Tour all you have to do is start talking major trash and then BRING THE NOISE.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233017225.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1233017259.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-26-2009, 04:55 PM

Posted By: J LevineI am so tired of that...so what, you shot 68 one round several years ago. Way to answer his question. Do you have a job? Are you a deadbeat, live off your families money, what? Your website is at least two years out of date... Ever notice that everyone who wants to be a badass and bring the noise is just like everyone else who does the same...you think tatoos and giving the finger to the camera makes you original...that is funny. How about doing something to better the world, add some knowledge to the universe, or help someone other than yourself. Marshall you are a selfish brat. A bully and a thug. And I am still convinced that Joann could easily kick your ass. Joshua

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01-26-2009, 04:55 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulli"Oh i almost forgot, welcome to the party Joann, Vegas has you 1/9 to start whining about some guy who offended you with a spanking comment." I've been steering away from this thread but I just got home and I saw this. Marshall, you are a child. It makes me sick that you're allowed to post on this board. You have added absolutely zero value, other than stirring up crap. I don't participate on this board for the People magazine garbage. Twice now, you've gone after Joann with sexual comments, and the only reason I could think of that you would stoop to that level - twice - even after the bitch-slapping you took LAST time - is because you're entirely too stupid to have an intelligent discussion of any kind, with anyone, and that includes debating. My opinion: your picture is nothing special. I'm out. -Al

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01-26-2009, 05:04 PM

Posted By: dan mckeeI must admit, I don't see a bully and a thug here or I must be the HULK. Marshall is a tad loud but Leon has confirmed that he is legit so that is good enough for me. We all have personalities and his is a bit rougher than most but he has still brought some quality info to the board as some have mentioned and I have to back Leon that this guy is for real. Marshall, you are always welcome at my table at any show. Dan.

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01-26-2009, 05:12 PM

Posted By: PCI lost track of how this thread came to be, and where it went, but two observations: (1) I just love the old Indian photos. I've seen part of the Kurt Koegler collection several times in person (years ago in his home), and it is astounding. It generates that same feeling all true collectors feel when they see the culmination of a life's work ... you appreciate it the way non-collectors do not. (2) How did Johnny Cash get into this -- seeing his photo on this board is a bit odd, but not unwelcome. Personal favorite song ... Big River. Apologies for adding to the noise, or noize.

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01-26-2009, 05:27 PM

Posted By: Rob D.I'm not posting anymore in regards to this thread but i suspect sevral folks will. Rob...last post kid so Vegas steals your money. Over/under now .5

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01-26-2009, 05:32 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI think at some point we all have to realize that harping on a poster's quirkiness leads to flame wars...certain few individuals on this board feed off of the attention that these quirks bring. So if we can at least ignore the Noise bringing, the referring to oneself as "we", et cetera then the board would probably be more productive. I don't condone what these certain few posters do in what they perceive to be "retaliation", but it's not my call whether or not they post here. Ignoring these things will go a long way in making the Net54 a better place.

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01-26-2009, 05:46 PM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyDan, I think this has gone way beyond simple quirkiness. I get it, this guy is an individual, and "rocks" to the beat of his own drum, but his behavior is uncalled for. He started his flaming on this thread when he called someone a "Retard" after they simply told him what his picture was worth. This guy adds NOTHING to this pre-war baseball card forum and continues to throw insults around. The amount of leeway he has been allowed is unlike anything we have seen before -- not from Chao, Moraine, or any of the other guys that used to post here. I'm not gonna tell you guys how to run the forum, you do a great job, this guy is just a cancer. -Rhett He still never answered my question about what he does when not "bringing the headache."

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01-26-2009, 06:01 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaRhett, Marshall has done nothing comparable to at least three other posters who I shall leave nameless so as to not start something that shouldn't be started. One of them is gone, one rarely posts and the other still posts away. I simply think ignoring the "Noise" and concentrating perhaps on the positives will make the "Noise" die down.

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01-26-2009, 06:04 PM

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyDan, fair enough, I'm done. Barring personal attacks on me I will not respond further. -Rhett

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01-26-2009, 06:25 PM

Posted By: john/z28jd Dan,I think the only positive will come when the noise does die down...so far I've seen him argue with at least 20 respected board members,not listen to moderators,and add nothing. What exactly are we waiting for with him because it better be real good for all the real contributing members to have to put up with this much garbage. Until he proves otherwise,I think he is just here to annoy people. For some strange reason some people like negative attention given to them from strangers over the internet. I don't understand the fascination with it but if thats his thing I guess this board is making him real happy now.

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01-26-2009, 06:30 PM

Posted By: ralph Ok, hold up hold up.. I gotta say this Barkman cat is makes every post an entertaining shootout !, Its riveting.. true its all about him, but they start so innocently..a simple post about some obscure BB card.... then it slowly turns to " ha ha nay nay" ..and guys get fired up..and off it goes... dozens of post..hundreds sometimes ! ..its incredible, Bark you da man !, you always bring juice.. you always bring the noi.. OH FRIG.. Now he's got me saying it.. BRING DA NOISE BOY BRING DA NOISE !!LOL

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01-26-2009, 06:48 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaJohn, this thread started okay...probably should have been on the memorabilia side though. Marshall really needs to learn better ways to communicate with the forum members here about disagreements, and I think it behooves us to ignore the "noisy" parts of his posts much in the same way we've learned to ignore "we". At the very least he's learned to post scans which is not something that can be said of some of the other problem child posters who have posted here in the past.

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01-26-2009, 06:52 PM

Posted By: john/z28jd Could you imagine if MB used "we"....the board would get a ticket for noise pollution. I'm not chipping in,thats gonna have to come out of the banner money

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01-26-2009, 07:36 PM

Posted By: Ryan ChristoffI'm in the red corner? Is that pinko commie red, or Jim C./Ted Z. red? Can't I just be in the blue corner? Maybe a different one than you're in, Marshall? Indigo perhaps? Cobalt? Azure? -Ryan

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01-26-2009, 08:53 PM

Posted By: SteveWow this is still going on? Steve

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01-27-2009, 05:59 AM

Posted By: leonIt's sort of been fun..... Steve- no, it's not still going. Lets get back to cards. And for all of those that say to ban folks and lock threads very quickly, that's never been my MO.....I try to let folks hang themselves if they want to and I try not to lock threads, too much. Regardless of anything else I still think people, who aren't anonymous, should be able to say what they want to (per the loosely enforced rules). Some will say I haven't banned Marshall because he hasn't attacked me. That's not the case. Marshall can add value and will quit if I ask. The few others that were ever banned wouldn't quit no matter what. And the abuse dished out by Marshall, in my opinion, has been miniscule compared to other things I have seen. I will leave it at that. I will ask Marshall not to post anymore PSA threads (for some weeks) and no more off topic for a longer while. It's all per the rules if anyone cares to read them. I am sorry if I offend anyone by not banning or locking quicker....take care