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01-16-2009, 11:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Terry Knouse</b><p>Found this while organizing. The obvious is that it is an 1886 Louisville cabinet. Can anyone help identify the different players pictured??<br><br>Thank you for the assistance..<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1232128698.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-16-2009, 12:22 PM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>For starters, I believe it's Dave Foutz in the lower left-hand corner, Bid McPhee in the lower right-hand corner and Hub Collins on the left side above the crossed bats.

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01-16-2009, 12:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Shawn</b><p>Here is this... Copied from REA.<br><br>Outstanding 1886 composite cabinet card features Jim Hart's Louisville-California Combination team. In December of 1886, manager Jim Hart arranged for his Louisville team of the National League to travel to San Francisco for a barnstorming tour. Hart added a few California League players to the roster, and proceeded to win 20 games in a row before finally losing to the California League's Haverly team. This widely publicized tour is credited with dramatically increasing interest in winter baseball in California in the 1880s. Very little has survived relating to baseball in California in the 1880s. This is one of the most interesting and unique cabinet cards of the era, featuring the Louisville-California Combination team, produced to commemorate the tour, by studio photographer P. Sewell of San Francisco. This unusual and extreme rarity is one of only several known to exist. Crisp and clean, both front and back. Excellent to Mint condition. Reserve $1,000. Estimate $2,000/$3,000. SOLD FOR $3,450.00<br><br><a href="http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2004/304.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2004/304.html</a>

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01-16-2009, 01:43 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>how come i never find stuff like that while &quot;organising?&quot;<br><br>

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01-16-2009, 05:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Ken Wirt</b><p>Wow! That would make this Bid McPhee's earliest &quot;card&quot;, would it not? Fantastic find!

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01-16-2009, 05:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>What a cool find. Whenever I clean/organize all I find is things like botulism.

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01-16-2009, 05:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Tim Sanders</b><p>You can find some info on it by reading The Beer and Whiskey League by David Nemec. The exact same photo is referenced on page 116. It pictures players from Louisville that took a post season tour of California playing the local talent. A lot of the team stars were left behind such as Pete Browning. Hope that helps.

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01-17-2009, 09:44 AM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Looking at a Louisville cabinet from 1885 it looks like Phil Reccius above Hub Collins, Norm Baker above Reccius, Monk Cline below Hart and Dan Sullivan above the crossed bats on the right.<br><br>There is a picture of the 1885 cabinet on page 814 of Nemec's 19th Century Encyclopedia.

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01-17-2009, 04:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Prizner</b><p>Is that definitely McPhee? I'm surprised REA didn't call that out in their auction.

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01-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p>I'm with Jeff until someone is able to prove that is McPhee.

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01-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I don't think it's him. McPhee played his entire career in Cincinnati and this team is made up of Louisville and California League players.

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01-17-2009, 07:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Prizner</b><p>Here's a pic of McPhee from 1888, looks like the guy in the Louisville cabinet has less hair.<br><br><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/imagehostingmisc/McPhee%20logo.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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01-17-2009, 08:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Oh, sure! Now <b>everybody's</b> a critic! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="wink.gif"><br><br><br><br>

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01-17-2009, 08:41 PM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> I think the player in the bottom right corner is Paul Cook<br><br><img src="http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/171/175743.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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01-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>The guy in the top middle looks strikingly like a young Ty Cobb.

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01-18-2009, 06:30 AM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Paul Cook! That's the ticket! Although he <b>does</b> have a hat on so we can't see how much (or little) hair he has! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br>The guy in the upper right hand corner is bugging me (I think I should know him) and the guy below him looks a bit like Farmer Vaughn, but Vaughn wasn't with Louisville in 1886.

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01-18-2009, 08:33 AM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>There are several <u>Sporting News</u> articles From November 1886 and December 1886 about the Louisville team's California trip:<br><br>The box scores consistently list the following players:<br><br>Monk Cline<br>Hub Collins<br>Dave Foutz<br>Joe Werrick<br>Bill White<br>Reddy Mack<br>Paul Cook<br>Phil Reccius<br>Tony(?) Hellman<br><br>I can send a PDF of one of the articles to anyone who would like it.