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01-02-2009, 03:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>i was lucky enough to win any auction for a 1939 Play Ball #108 Frank Hayes. This card is autographed. it was listed wrong, and the seller stated that the former owner must have wrote his name on teh card. <br><br><br><br>I sent it to PSA/DNA, and it is indeed authentic. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Frank Hayes was a multiple All Star, and he died in 1955 at the age of 40. what do you think the value of this card would be?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>oh yeah, i got it for $0.99

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01-02-2009, 09:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Despite his early death, Hayes' signature is a fairly easy pickup. A signed Play Ball, however, is a different story. My guess is that it would retail for $250, but sell on eBay for about $150-$175. It should be worth more, but the fact that his signature, as found on low-end items such as cuts and album pages, hinders its value a bit.

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01-02-2009, 09:27 PM
Posted By: <b>sean</b><p>I believe I know the playballs your speaking of. does yours look anything like this:<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

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01-02-2009, 11:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>mine looks like this.. this is before the PSA/DNA slab<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1230966050.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-02-2009, 11:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Are you sure it is signed (PSA/DNA aside) as the &quot;Frank&quot; on those two cards is identical. Looks like PSA got one really wrong.<br>-Rhett

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01-02-2009, 11:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>please tell me more as to why you think it is not signed.

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01-03-2009, 12:55 AM
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Unless Frank Hayes also wrote &quot;Frank Demaree&quot; on Demaree's card above it wasn't written by Hayes. The way to tell is simply the &quot;Frank&quot; on each card is identical in the way they were written. I think the seller was right when he said the name was simply written on the front. <br><br>Did you really send this to PSA/DNA and they thought it was legit? My assumption with my earlier sttement was that you did. If in fact you did, they got this one wrong.<br><br>-Rhett <br><br>

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01-03-2009, 06:52 AM
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Maybe Frank Hayes signed his own card there, then helped out Frank Demaree by signing a card for a fan for him while he was busy... Or maybe Rhett is correct!! &quot;Frank&quot; does look identical.

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01-03-2009, 07:01 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>sorry but they are fake. The seller had about 20 over a 2 month period. Shows that PSA knows as much about authenticating autographs as paris hilton knows about politics<br>I was hoping you would post a good one and not have to break the bad news to you.<br><br>sorry brian

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01-03-2009, 07:03 AM
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Rhett, good pick-up on the sigs. <br><br>Frankly, the Frank signatures look the same. GO PSA/DNA!!! By the way, who authenticates for them now?

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01-03-2009, 07:07 AM
Posted By: <b>PC</b><p><img src="http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo190/firesandz/haha_simpsons.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>Sorry Brian. I couldn't resist. For 99 cents, you have to laugh.

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01-03-2009, 07:13 AM
Posted By: <b>Robert Klevens</b><p>Brian-<br>Can you post a scan of the card in the PSA/DNA case?<br>Thanks.

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01-03-2009, 07:14 AM
Posted By: <b>sean</b><p>Heres another one of the &quot;signed&quot; playballs<br><br><br><br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=330279830878" rel="nofollow"><span class="link">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=330279830878&gt;<br><br>and another...<br><br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=230301682122" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=230301682122</a></span></a>

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01-03-2009, 07:20 AM
Posted By: <b>sean</b><p>and yet another:<br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=230299902145" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=230299902145</a>

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01-03-2009, 07:49 AM
Posted By: <b>Sean C</b><p>Certainly doesn't look like any Hank Greenberg signature I've ever seen:<br><br><img src="http://i23.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/13/5d/74d1_1.JPG" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>

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01-03-2009, 07:51 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I HEAR PSA HAS A NEW AUTOGRAPH AUTHENTICATOR BUT I FORGET WHO IT IS?

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01-03-2009, 07:59 AM
Posted By: <b>Dennis</b><p>i think we can all agree that whoever signed them had beautiful penmanship.

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01-03-2009, 08:03 AM
Posted By: <b>Sean C</b><p>then whoever authenticated that card needs to go as well.

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01-03-2009, 08:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>ok, not what i wanted to hear.. the card is on its way back to me from PSA.. but the results was PSA/DNA Certified. <br><br>here is a picture of a Hayes signature from a Lelands auction.. i see the difference.<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1230999009.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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01-03-2009, 08:33 AM
Posted By: <b>Dennis</b><p>but the card has been authenticated and slabbed by psa/dna it must be good!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

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01-03-2009, 08:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Anthony N.</b><p>LOL Leon- first person I thought of!