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12-27-2008, 04:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Morris</b><p>Charles &quot;Spider&quot; Baum was my great-grandfather and I'd like to purchase his cards to be shared with family members. If you have cards available, please send scans and pricing to me at mmorris@sacbee.com.

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12-27-2008, 06:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>Mark, you would do better if you posted this in the BST section of the forum.<br><br>Kmac

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12-27-2008, 07:01 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Ken is correct.....the best place for this would be the BST but since it's a great grandfather I think we could give a little break....Good luck in the hunt!~!!

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12-27-2008, 07:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Is Spider Baum the Baum from the Obak set? If so, I seem to recall that the Obak Baum was one of the double prints. Am I correct in my recollecton?

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12-27-2008, 08:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Here is Spider's checklist...<br><br>Baum, Charles A. (Spider)<br>1911 Big Eater Salons<br>1911 D310<br>1911 D311<br>1911 E100 Type I<br>1911 T4 <br>1909 T212-1<br>1910 T212-2 (175)<br>1911 T212-3<br>1911 Zeenuts<br>1912 Zeenuts<br>1913 Zeenuts<br>1914 Zeenuts<br>1915 Zeenuts<br>1916 Zeenuts<br>1917 Zeenuts<br>1918 Zeenuts<br>1919 Zeenuts<br>1920 Zeenuts<br><br>Spider was EXTREMELY popular in the PCL where he played between 1903 and 1920. While he never &quot;made&quot; the Major Leagues, that was likley due to him choosing to remain on the Pacific Coast. He is a member of the PCL Hall of Fame, and among the early PCL stars he ranks right up there with the best of the bunch.<br><br>You'll like this interesting exerpt from Horne's Zeenut's book... (reprinted from San Francisco Examiner article (5-26-1943) by Prescott Sullivan)<br> &quot;...Kid's used to flip the pasteboards against the wall and the kid whose card came closest to the line took the works. We'll never forget the day we lost a treasured picture of &quot;Spider&quot; Baum in this manner. Baum, Seals pitcher, was a great favorite in those days and his picture was regarded as worth two or three of any other player because it was said to be &quot;rare.&quot; The candy company which distributed the pictures often put out more of one player than they did another... Baum's was one of them...&quot;<br><br>Here are a few of my Spider's...<br><img src="http://www.geocities.com/rhettmatthew_37/12zeebaum.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/13zeebaum.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/rhettmatthew_37/14zeebaum.JPG" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>

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12-27-2008, 08:54 PM
Posted By: <b>ChiSoxFan</b><p>1909-11 Obak T212 #34 Baum (Sacramento) 1<br>1909-11 Obak T212 #133 Baum (Sacramento) 2<br>1909-11 Obak T212 #305 Baum (Sacramento) 3<br>1911 Big Eater E-Unc. #2 Charles Baum<br>1911 Bishop Coast League E100 #1 Spider Baum<br>1911 Pacific Coast Biscuit D310 #5 Charles Baum<br>1911 Pacific Coast Biscuit D311 #4 Spider Baum<br>1911 Zeenuts #63 Charles A. Baum<br>1911-12 Obak Premiums T4 #54 Spider Baum<br>1912 Zeenuts #76 Charles Baum<br>1913 Zeenuts #130 Charles Baum<br>1914 Zeenuts #101 Charles Baum<br>1915 Zeenuts #95 Charles Baum<br>1916 Zeenuts #97 Charles Baum<br>1917 Zeenuts #82 Charles Baum<br>1918 Zeenuts #75 Charles Baum<br>1919 Zeenuts #82 Charles Baum<br>1920 Zeenuts #77 Charles Baum<br><br>ChiSoxFan<br><br>Looking for T206 Sweet Caporal Fact. #30 White Sox in Poor to Fair condition.

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12-27-2008, 08:56 PM
Posted By: <b>ChiSoxFan</b><p>Rhett,<br><br>Looks like you posted your checklist just before mine.<br><br>ChiSoxFan

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12-27-2008, 09:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Your's includes more info for those not so familiar with the ACC #'s, so I'm sure yours is even more useful<br>-Rhett

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12-27-2008, 09:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>I'd contact Mark Macrae - he's probably the best source of information and cards from the early PCL days. <br><br>

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12-28-2008, 04:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Zinn</b><p><img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/1911%20Zeenut/Baum.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/Obak/Baum.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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12-28-2008, 06:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p><a href="http://minors.sabrwebs.com/cgi-bin/person.php?milbID=baum--002cha" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://minors.sabrwebs.com/cgi-bin/person.php?milbID=baum--002cha</a><br><br>Charles Baum<br>Given name: Charles Adrian Nickname: Spider Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6-1 Weight: 165 <br>Born: 1882-5-28 at San Francisco, CA (US) Died: 1955-6-28 at Renton, WA (US) <br>IDs: MiLB-DB: baum--002cha SABR: MLBAM: <br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Teams<br><br>Year League Club Organization Stint First game Last game <br>1902 California League (Independent) San Francisco none <br>1903 Pacific Coast League (Independent) Los Angeles Angels none <br>1904 Pacific Coast League (A) Los Angeles Angels none <br>1905 Pacific Coast League (A) Los Angeles Angels none <br>1906 California League (Independent) Sacramento Cordovas none <br>1906 Tri-State League (Independent) Altoona Mountaineers none <br>1907 California League (Independent) Sacramento Cordovas none <br>1907 Tri-State League (B) Altoona Mountaineers none <br>1908 California League (Independent) Fresno Tigers none <br>1909 Pacific Coast League (A) Sacramento Sacts none <br>1910 Pacific Coast League (A) Sacramento Sacts none <br>1911 Pacific Coast League (A) Sacramento Sacts none <br>1912 Pacific Coast League (AA) Sacramento Sacts none <br>1912 Pacific Coast League (AA) Vernon Tigers none 2 <br>1913 Pacific Coast League (AA) Venice Tigers none <br>1914 Pacific Coast League (AA) San Francisco Seals none <br>1915 Pacific Coast League (AA) San Francisco Seals none <br>1916 Pacific Coast League (AA) San Francisco Seals none <br>1917 Pacific Coast League (AA) San Francisco Seals none <br>1918 Pacific Coast League (AA) San Francisco Seals none <br>1919 Pacific Coast League (AA) San Francisco Seals none <br>1919 Pacific Coast League (AA) Salt Lake City Bees none 2 <br>1920 Pacific Coast League (AA) Salt Lake City Bees none <br>