Do we need a separate forum for discussing possible scams and con artists?

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Posted By: <b>Matt E.</b><p>

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>I'll second the motion. Though I've had great dealings with almost everyone I've dealt with here on the BST, it's always good to know who to avoid.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I don't see it happening guys. As much as I have no issue with outing bad situations I am not going to deal with something like that. I can't even imagine the repercussions. I am open to listening to discussion but I can't imagine letting that kind of forum happen. Just too many issues surrounding it.......regards

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I think a separate forum for such would be unfortunate, at this point in time.<br><br><br>A separate place would only encourage such posts... there's a place for it, let's do it!<br><br><br>I'd like to see fewer, but I'd like a lot of stuff. <br><br><br>What I'd like to see are more threads about cards... not about collectors vs dealers, OJ, eBay, Paypal, or slabbing companies.

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>It's not a bad idea, but I'd hate to see things get so bad that it would be necessary.

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Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>Probably an unnecessary can of worms. I had a BST experience where someone sold some me serverely trimmed items but described them as slightly trimmed. Just a difference of opinion I suppose. Not necessarily a con artist. The point is that some folks might be undeservedly pubicly flogged if such a thread was established.

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Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>I posted about on such an auction recently. Seller e-mailed me a rude message as he didn't want the facts I knew out to vintage collectors. Still glad I did so as dishonest is dishonest. Didn't respond to the e-mail as I didn't feel that responding or giving this person the time of day was appropriate. Scammers are scammers. However, I do not think a separate forum would be worth while. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Kmac

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Good call Leon. A separate area will just encourage people to make accusations that may become increasingly baseless, like it was getting a few months ago (and has thankfully largely abated). With only a few exceptionss, people are now pretty careful to only post these concerns on the main board in very egregious or certain instances. <br><br>I don't think it's possible to create that area and not have it eventually devolve into finger-pointing corner with people hauling out the ban hammer even with only perceived possible nuanced thinking that someone did something wrong. <br><br>Too hard to fix a reputation once someone has recklessly and mistakenly called it into question. Nothing but trouble there.<br><br>Joann

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Perhaps someone could moderate a completely new forum based on this subject. Leon could provide a link to the new forum with a disclaimer (if necessary).

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Posted By: <b>Matt E.</b><p>I was thinking more along the lines of the section being informative, educational and helpful to all. <br><br><br><br>Could cover things such as <br><br><br><br>Beware of Ebay ID.............<br><br>Cards were stolen, <br>Cards never mailed<br><br>Ebay ID change, seller back at it again<br><br>Is this real?<br><br>Fakes circulating<br><br>Won't respond to Emails<br><br>Bad trade alert with board member...<br><br><br><br>and yes a name mentioned when called for. Plenty of good can come from this area as well if used correctly. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Matt

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Matt, those are some pretty good ideas, would you be willing to moderate this forum? I bet it would be a bull board VBC members will visit. The only thing would be to keep people from posting link after link of the threads in this forum to the main VBC forum.

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Posted By: <b>Mark L</b><p>If you do start one of these boards, you better enlist a couple lawyers to help moderate it.

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>How about know who you are doing business with and avoiding the scammers<br>all together?<br><br><br><br>Steve