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12-04-2008, 08:02 AM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Can someone post images and/or describe any/all variations of these Rube Levy cards:<br><br>Rube Levy 1887 Old Judge N167 # 297<br>Rube Levy 1888 Old Judge N321 SF Hess # 8<br>Rube Levy 1888 Old Judge N321 SF Hess # 17<br><br>Thanks.<br>Alan

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12-04-2008, 08:05 AM
Posted By: <b>Bobby Binder</b><p>There is no N167 of Levy and only one N321 not 2.<br><br><img src="http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/39149.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

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12-04-2008, 01:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Macrae</b><p>There are technically three &quot;types&quot; of N-321 SF Hess color cards depicting California League players. Type 1 is the standard insert card with advertising printed in the bottom border; Type 2 is believed to be cut down from an advertisement sheet, similar stock of paper and size / scale of Type 1, but not having the advertisement in the bottom border; and Type 3 which is on a very thin stock of paper, but in a scan will look like a Type 1. All of the Type 2 &amp; 3 cards that I've seen / owned are handcut. I can verify that Type 1 &amp; 2 examples exist of Levy. There are appx 30 different Type 3's known, but I cannot verify that Levy exists in that format

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12-04-2008, 01:35 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I knew of the first 2 types but not the 3rd thin stock one. I think Tik had quite a few of the ad cut ones at one time. Thanks for sharing...best regards

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12-04-2008, 02:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Macrae</b><p>Leon,<br>The large group that Terry had a few years back were Type 3's. Under normal circumstances when some unusual variances / inconsistancies turn up, I automatically assume they are repros or fakes until proven otherwise. Terry's source however (someone you &amp; I both know) found them around 30 years ago mixed in with a large paper ephemera collection native to Northern California. While they are likely prototypes of some kind, there is a reasonable assurance that they are both authentic &amp; period.

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12-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Thanks Mark !!!

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12-04-2008, 09:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1228455653.JPG" alt="[linked image]">

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12-05-2008, 04:48 AM
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Never seen that before. Thanks for posting it. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc