Show us your 1941 Play Ball's....let's do a virtual set [Archive]

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10-25-2008, 08:39 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisLet's try to complete a "virtual" set of 1941 Play Ball cards. Since there are only 72 in this set...... it has the distinction having one of the highest ratios of HOFers/cards of any major BB set....21% As you all know, it was the last major BB card set issued prior to WWII. But, that did not end the production of bubble gum trading cards. The Bowman Gum Co. (GUM, Inc.) switched to issuing a WAR Gum series from 1941 till the end of 1942. The last card in this series depicts the battle of Stalingrad, that ended Feb 1943 with the defeat of the Germans, at the cost of 1.5 Million lives. OK, I will start this "set" with my Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio....so, we have 70 more cards to show....let's see your 1941 Play Ball's. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a1941playballtwjd1943.jpg"> 1941 - Dec 1942 WAR GUM series TED Z

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10-25-2008, 08:43 AM

Posted By: dennis<a href="http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/?action=view&current=playballs.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/playballs.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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10-25-2008, 09:38 AM

Posted By: Anthony N.Is it cheating if we do 12 at once? <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/uncutsheets/large/41PB.tif.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 09:44 AM

Posted By: JoannThe only one I own, but here it is. I like to think it's Tiger Stadium in the background. I also like the various shades of blue theme. Joann <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224949463.JPG">

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10-25-2008, 10:18 AM

Posted By: Brian Goldner<img src="http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p233/jujudrum/LX3GICA4PPVNLCAATR3IHCA0NHK6SCA1GMT.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 10:29 AM

Posted By: Ken WirtHere's mine: <img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s290/triwak/53.jpg"> <img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s290/triwak/57.jpg"> <img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s290/triwak/81.jpg"> <img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s290/triwak/106.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 11:02 AM

Posted By: AndyH<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224954133.JPG"> Thanks, Andy

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10-25-2008, 11:03 AM

Posted By: Chris CountsHere is a trio of Dodger pitchers ... <img src="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e278/ccmcnutt/41wyatt2.jpg"> <img src="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e278/ccmcnutt/41hamlin2.jpg"> <img src="http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e278/ccmcnutt/41higbe2.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 11:25 AM

Posted By: Steve 1941 was such an exciting year for baseball and the World. To imagine this is the last set kids collected for nearly seven years. I don't have one myself... These have terrific artwork and except for the JJax perhaps, a long ways from the prior year's issue, as exhibited by the identical Joe D pose. Don't be shy about posting any dupes of this last prewar set on the BST please.

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10-25-2008, 01:05 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.Might as well keep the family together <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/1941playball/PB61%20copy.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/1941playball/PB63%20copy.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 01:50 PM

Posted By: dennishere's a wrapper,not mine (wish it was!) <a href="http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/?action=view¤t=playballwrapper.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/playballwrapper.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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10-25-2008, 01:59 PM

Posted By: Ol' ProfA couple of Yanks: <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224963708.GIF"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224963684.GIF"> The prettiest card in the set (yeah, even better than Joe D.): <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224963724.GIF"> And a former president: <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224963780.GIF">

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10-25-2008, 02:25 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisFour great HOFers from the Hi# series...... I think we now have included scans of all the 15 HOFers in this set. I love the Bill Dickey card, it is one of my all-time favorite BB cards. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a41dickeyreesekleindoerr.jpg"> TED Z

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10-25-2008, 02:53 PM

Posted By: JimBWhat a great looking set! Wish I could contribute to this thread. Anthony, that sheet is off the charts! JimB

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10-25-2008, 03:33 PM

Posted By: DMcDAbsolutely love this set. Great artwork and some great ballplayers in defining images. Got some great nicknames (Gunboat Gumbert, Soupy Campbell) and three Dimaggios! Hard to pick a favorite. The Foxx is awesome. Really like the Keller. For some reason my favorite is Indian Bob Johnson, probably because it reminds me of the E90-1 Rebel Oakes "Out of the Box" image. <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball/websize/23%20Johnson.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/holygrailcards/websize/Scan154.jpg"> One of my backburner projects is to load my '41 Play Ball set to my photo site. It is presently a work in progress. A lot of the cards swiveled in the scanner and need to be re-shot so the album is "all kine hemajang" which is Hawaiian for TARFU. Anyway have a look (chance 'em): <a href="http://imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball</a> pw=aloha <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/icons/DSC06275.JPG"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/icons/DSC06276.JPG"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/icons/DSC06277.JPG"> Steve FDNY: These are my dupes. If you see anything you want let me know and I will help you out. Ask and ye shall receive. (I will move this over to the BST if anyone gets their knickers in a twist). <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/DSC06279.JPG"> Um. Wow. Vintage cards, scantily-clad Dutch people, uku-zillion penguins, authentic Polynesian maidens, surfing Obama and more at . . <a href="http://ImageEvent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://ImageEvent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika</a> Password=aloha

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10-25-2008, 03:46 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisIt's good to see another Play Ball collector who has his cards in plastic sheets in an album. Nice photos. TED Z

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10-25-2008, 03:48 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThe 1941 Play Ball cards were available in four different colored wax packs which included a large piece of BLONY bubble gum. The Bowman Gum Co. changed its bubble gum's name to Bowman after WWII. Missing here is the Yellow version, which is the toughest to find. Perhaps someone out there will provide a scan of the Yellow wrapper. I can't seem to find mine. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/aw1941playballgrn.jpg"> <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/aw1941playballor.jpg"> TED Z

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10-25-2008, 03:51 PM

Posted By: Jodi BirkholmSomebody scanned one in a previous thread. Wasn't it a thread devoted exclusively to wrappers before it devolved into a Coke vs. Pepsi debate?

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10-25-2008, 04:00 PM

Posted By: Danny Grimes2 error, wrong backs + upside down. both yanks! <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224971991.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1224972010.JPG">

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10-25-2008, 04:06 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.David- scan them with the lid open. You won't have shifting problems and they will look a lot better. Great stuff everyone, especially the wrappers!

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10-25-2008, 04:21 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisHe almost was....as the Yankees offered Hank a contract when he graduated HS in the Bronx in 1929. He turned it down, because as a 1st baseman, he knew he was just going to be a bench warmer with the Yankees. Instead he attended NYU for a year. Three years later, after playing ball in the Minors, he signed with Detroit. Who knows what his career would have been like as a Yankee ? <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a1941playballgreenberg.jpg"> TED Z

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10-25-2008, 06:26 PM

Posted By: jdrumSomeone wrote on these but I like 'em anyway! <img src="http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/41pbs.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 07:43 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.The '39-40 Reds were a powerful team, with some solid pitching. Here's a few of them..... <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/1941playball/icons/PB03%20copy.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/1941playball/icons/PB04%20copy.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/1941playball/icons/PB56%20copy.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 08:21 PM

Posted By: Jeff SchwarzHere is the final wrapper in the quartet. This was the hardest for me to track down also. Ted, my set also is in plastic sheets! I love raw cards to hold and look at rather than the slabs. <img src="http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh238/jeffschwarz/41PlayballYellow.jpg">

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10-25-2008, 10:42 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks for posting your Yellow wrapper. And, I gotta love this statement of yours....."Ted, my set also is in plastic sheets! I love raw cards to hold and look at rather than the slabs." TED Z

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10-26-2008, 07:21 AM

Posted By: ChrisJeff - thanks for posting the yellow wrapper! It certainly is the hardest to find. Nice to see it.

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10-26-2008, 08:40 AM

Posted By: DMcDOK . . I fixed my ImageEvent Play Ball album (thanx, Anthony) and it is now presentable. Have a look. <a href="http://imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball</a> pw=aloha Pinky and Happy, the Play Ball TeleTubbies: <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball/websize/12%20May.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball/websize/36%20Milnar.jpg">

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10-26-2008, 09:16 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisEveryone remembers Tommy's famous "Strikeout" play in the 4th game of the 1941 World Series...... but, he also had a pretty good season in 1941 BA = .277 HR = 31 Runs = 106 RBI = 85 Tommy's best overall season in terms of numbers was 1948 BA = .308 HR = 25 Runs = 138 RBI = 100 <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/aa1941playballhenrich.jpg"> TED Z

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10-26-2008, 02:10 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThat is a very interesting Gomez you have......I have never seen a Hi# front (Gomez) with a Lo# back (Moore) ? ? I have had a number of these "wrong backs", including Joe DiMaggio....but, the front/back errors have all been within the same series. TED Z

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10-26-2008, 06:47 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisBabe Dahlgren is #49....and is the 1st card in the Hi# series (#49-72). Babe Dahlgren reminds me, it's Trivia Quiz time..... Part I What are Babe Dahlgren and George Selkirk known for ? Part II That one should be easy....so, the next post will follow-up the answers to this one with a tougher quiz. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a1941dahlgrenselkirk.jpg"> TED Z

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10-26-2008, 07:11 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.Selkirk replaced Ruth, Dahlgren replaced Gehrig.

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10-26-2008, 07:41 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisOK that was easy.....now, who did Ruth and Gehrig replace ? TED Z

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10-26-2008, 07:44 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.Pipp and Hooper? Or Duffy Lewis?

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10-26-2008, 09:09 PM

Posted By: Richard Cline - RCAnthony N - You have me drooling with those Reds, they were pretty good! Here is my only '41 Play Ball. RC <img src="http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/rc4157/Other%20Vintage/GeorgeMacMcQuinn-1941PlayBall.jpg">

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10-26-2008, 09:24 PM

Posted By: AlanTed - Thanks for starting this thread. You've given me the interest to try to find a 1941 Play Ball Hank Greenberg card in worse than horrible condition !!! Alan

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10-26-2008, 09:24 PM

Posted By: Alan double post - sorry.

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10-26-2008, 09:49 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.Alan- Don't forget about Moe! <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/1941playball/PB57%20copy.jpg">

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10-26-2008, 10:21 PM

Posted By: Jodi BirkholmSlightly O/T, but, as far as I have heard from his contemporaries, nobody ever referred to Morris Arnovich as "Moe". He was always called either "Morrie" or Morris. Arnovich is one of the handful of players whose grave I have paid a visit to. He's buried in the Hebrew Cemetery, Superior, Wisconsin.

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10-26-2008, 10:23 PM

Posted By: Anthony N.I'd always heard of him referred to as "Morrie" as well. I suspect the people designing the cards took a bit of creative license with the nicknames.

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10-26-2008, 10:27 PM

Posted By: Jodi BirkholmYes, there's no doubt that many vintage issues have stretched creative liberty to a near breaking point. The Play Ball sets are far from exempt in this regard! There are a couple of earlier issues which almost exclusively used improper/imaginary nicknames (and some who misspelled nearly every player's surname!). I'm sure many of you can name the sets, as I can not. It's been so long!

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10-27-2008, 07:56 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYou are correct about Lou Gehrig replacing Wally Pipp at 1st base. Try again for who Babe Ruth replaced in RF in 1920 ? TED Z

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10-27-2008, 08:02 AM

Posted By: Jodi BirkholmSammy Vick? Here's a cool piece--a 1920 Yankees album page with both Ruth and Vick! <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1225116151.JPG">

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10-27-2008, 11:48 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisNeat item....and yes, Babe Ruth replaced Sammy Vick in RF in 1920. TED Z

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10-27-2008, 03:07 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisSo far, I count 55 different cards on display here from this set. Only 17 more to depict a complete set.....so, let's see some more ?

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10-27-2008, 03:49 PM

Posted By: dennisfrom the virtual card collection Designed by Keith Conforti <a href="http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/?action=view&current=grove.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/grove.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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10-27-2008, 08:56 PM

Posted By: stefanI have the whole set, but here are most of the keys to the set. <img src="http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/stefan41playball/415s.jpg"> <img src="http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/stefan41playball/416s.jpg"> <img src="http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/stefan41playball/4178s.jpg"> <img src="http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/stefan41playball/417hof.jpg">

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10-27-2008, 09:41 PM

Posted By: David McDonald<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/June08/icon_grovel.gif"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/June08/icon_grovel.gif"> Wow!! Stefan: Nice to see those PlayBalls as God intended them. Beautiful colors, beautiful cards. (My own set is exceedingly homely in comparison). <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball/websize/54%20Reese.jpg"> Um. Wow. Vintage cards, scantily-clad Dutch people, uku-zillion penguins, authentic Polynesian maidens, surfing Obama and more at . . <a href="http://ImageEvent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://ImageEvent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika</a> Password=aloha

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10-28-2008, 06:30 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisSome more Hi#s towards completing this virtual set....this gets us to 58 cards. Only 14 more to go.... So let's see more of your great looking 1941 Play Ball cards ? <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a1941hicardsno64to72.jpg"> TED Z

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10-28-2008, 06:58 PM

Posted By: DMcDElburt Preston Fletcher and Joseph Franklin Demaree: <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball/websize/63%20Fletcher.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/1941playball/websize/59%20Demaree.jpg"> That makes seven to go. Who's left?

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10-30-2008, 10:06 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisSix more cards to add to this virtual set....five Lo#s and the 24th Hi#....Johnny Cooney. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a1941playballdcwmhc.jpg"> Just 6 more cards to reach a full set 72. TED Z

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10-30-2008, 07:06 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisWith these six Lo# cards we now have all 72 front images of the 1941 Play Ball set. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/a1941playballwmmmwk.jpg"> I'm not suggesting that we should continue with back scans....but, check-out Joe DiMaggio's bio, his 1936-1940 stats are incredible. His BAvg = .343 for his first 5 years. And, he averaged approx. 140 RBI's per year. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/bk1941playballjoedimag.jpg"> TED Z

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10-30-2008, 10:29 PM

Posted By: Brian BaryHi everybody and a pre-thanks for what I know will be a warm welcome. I haven't purchased or traded for a card in about twenty years, but I love this forum. I have a nice collection that I put together between about 1969 and 1988, nothing as cool as a lot of board members here, but a lot of stuff that I'm sure other board members would covet. Anyway, I've got a complete set of 1941 Playballs that I purchased from Charles Conlon (I think) right after I got married and stopped accumulating. It's in pretty good shape too. The best part of the story, though, is when I showed it to a colleague of my father, who, like my dad, was an English professor at Loyola University. This friend of my father was almost overcome with emotion upon looking at the set, and then, to my amazement, asked me to quiz him on the narratives on the back of the cards. He was able to orate, almost verbatim, the copy from the backs of most of the cards. This was in 1989! The power of baseball cards. Both of us, him in his sixties, me in my thirties, were sort of embarrassed and elated at his memory. Red in the face and near tears. A great connecting moment when the old stuffy professor thought I was cool and I thought he was cool.

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10-30-2008, 10:42 PM

Posted By: Jodi BirkholmYes, a warm "welcome aboard" to you, and thanks for sharing such a great story! You have singlehandedly identified one of the greatest aspects of any pastime--the way that the shared interest between the parties involved instantly bridges any other gap, no matter how great, if even for a split second! The mutual feeling of elation is something that simply can not be conveyed to an outsider!

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10-31-2008, 02:54 AM

Posted By: BobBrian: Hey! Not all of us have been floating around the ivory tower, tweeds reeking of stale pipe tobacco. Some of us, probably more than in most professions, are collectors. My best friend, for example, collects spiders. Dead ones. Me, I'm just happy with coins and vintage cards. Bob

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10-31-2008, 11:07 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYou certainly have a warm welcome from me. Your story is the "Stuff"......that this forum is really made of. Years ago, my neighbor at the Jersey shore, who collected 1941 Play Ball's as a kid, had 100's of them. He helped me put together 4 complete sets, until I finally was able to upgrade one in really nice condition......the cards that I have scanned in this thread. Thanks and don't be shy about posting often. TED Z