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10-24-2008, 05:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/iteam/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/iteam/</a><br /><br />

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10-24-2008, 05:12 PM
Posted By: <b>jdrum</b><p>but knows a good trainwreck when he sees it.

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10-24-2008, 05:13 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>O'Keeffe is a shoddy journalist whose integrity barely fits onto the head of pin.<br /><br />Print that paperboy!

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10-24-2008, 05:18 PM
Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />I thought it was awesome. People should post stuff they'd be happy to explain to their grandma. I'm picturing Bruce's face right now and it's completely bloody hilarious!<br /><br />Seriously, awesome.

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10-24-2008, 05:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Zinn</b><p><img src="http://popforum.net/images/smiles/icon_lmao.gif"><br /><br />Glad I didn't post to that trainwreck.

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10-24-2008, 05:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Alan U</b><p>He's the Jose Canseco of baseball card forums

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10-24-2008, 05:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Collie</b><p>Out of curiosity, I just googled Bruce's name and this article came up on the first page of search results. Probably not the best thing for business development. <br /><br />A good lesson to some of the more tasteless posters on this board.

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10-24-2008, 05:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Brian, agreed. The lesson is to either: a) don't post your real name; or b) get tenure!

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10-24-2008, 05:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>"A recent thread entitled 'You Know You Have a Great Wife When…' devolved into a nasty battle between advocates of marriage and family and a fan of bachelorhood who inexplicably refers to himself in the plural. Here is a condensed version of the thread that should keep these guys from ever breeding."<br /><br /><br />Crap, I don't have any kids yet.

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10-24-2008, 05:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>At least he used actual quotes this time instead of just making stuff up.

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10-24-2008, 05:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>Hello Jeff,<br />This post reminds me of why I have stopped posting on the board. MANY of us seem to have gone crazy with the posting of religion,politics, who burned who out of 10 dollars and now I must publicize his name out there on network54 so everyone knows! Come on gentleman its time to grow up. As we all know network54 is about baseball cards and memorabilia. The other topics really have no place here and almost always end up with great fights and emails flying back and forth. There are so many knowledgeable people here and many new people find this site a vast source of knowledge in the hunt to gain some information on an item that they have found . To coin a phrase WHILST Im all for any talk about world series,baseball,football,etc. stars that have passed. or anything to do with a good SPORTS story ,Leon and the other moderators should lock any posts that start to really stray from the sports theme. I believe this would bring back MANY good people who have really grown tired of the NEW network54 political board. I have been active in this hobby for the last 30+ years and I feel something needs to be done get to a little change in the climate of this board. Just my look at it.

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10-24-2008, 05:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>This forum stays on topic just about as well as any internet forum out there that does not have a section for just shooting the breeze. With a presidential election coming up there are bound to be some heated debates, and as long as it's kept to one or two threads I don't see a problem with it. We are not card collecting automatons, we actually do have real human feelings. It's natural to stray off topic once in a while. I don't like to see it get as ugly as it got in the "Wife" thread though.

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10-24-2008, 05:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I used to visit the old Full Count board back in the day and it used to get pretty crazy if I recall correctly...

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10-24-2008, 05:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>So Dan, are you suggesting that O'Keeffe, that card-hating cyborg who was sent from the future to destroy this board, has now inflicted grievous harm on Net 54 by putting us in an unfairly bad light?

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10-24-2008, 05:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>No, I'm guessing he must have emailed you that link because nobody reads the NY Daily News blogs.<br /><br />Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound if no one is around to hear it?<br /><br />Does a NY Daily News story exist if no one reads it?

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10-24-2008, 05:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Al Simeone</b><p>Dan,<br />I do agree. The forum always gives great advice when it comes to collecting, and yes I will be the first to say that Im no automaton when it comes to any other subjects,but look what just happened when the subject was let to stray way to far! To me it just gives the board a little black eye if lets say a NEW person for the first time comes on and starts to read that post! All I am saying is when the post starts to go into the "danger"zone it should be locked . Thats all.

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10-24-2008, 05:58 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, I think you're a tad off about the popularity and circulation of anything on a Daily News website/blog. The News' website isn't read by as many people as the Omaha World Herald but I'm guessing it's close.

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10-24-2008, 06:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Why do you want to make this personal with me Jeff? That blog has gotten 2 comments on it since June.

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10-24-2008, 06:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, I'm not getting personal at all. I'm just stating that your anger towards O'Keeffe does not make him any less of a journalist or his blog any less read. And unlike you, I actually deal with New York journalists on a daily basis. And Mike O'Keeffe is a good journalist. Just because you don't like what he writes doesn't lessen that fact.

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10-24-2008, 06:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>He lied about the Net54 in his story about the Ohio guys with the fake Wagner. Does that make him a good journalist? <br /><br />Did he tell you he wrote this story or did you just happen upon it?

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10-24-2008, 06:15 PM
Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>I don't see nothing wrong with this. He simply brought to light something that was happening in another Forum and bringing more attention to it. If the thread in it's own way (which started out decent enough) hadn't snowballed into a trainwreck in itself (the article basically puts under a microscope how lost some people are in the way they think), there would have been nothing to report. Was there anything to report in the first place if you really think about it? I prefer Coke over Pepsi.<br /><br />DJ

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10-24-2008, 06:18 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I don't recall the part of the article in which you claim he 'lied.' I'm guessing your interpretation might not be as black and white as his. Dan, just because you disagreed with something he wrote does not make him a liar.<br /><br />And Dan, I happen to read Mike's blog regularly.<br />

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10-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>It's funny that O'Keeffe found this thread so bizarre that he felt the general public might be entertained by it. Now we've become the laughingstock.

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10-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jeff, there is more to it than just that story...O'Keeffe and I have disagreements going back 4+ years to the Joe DiMaggio streak bat.<br /><br />I think after one poster wishing for my early demise, getting lambasted by another poster for simply editing the title after he removed it from a 90+ post thread and other assorted barbs pointed at me I'm taking a break from the forum.

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10-24-2008, 06:33 PM
Posted By: <b>George Counter</b><p>Sorry Barry.<br />The only laughingstock here is Bruce "The 40 year old Virgin" Dorskind.<br />He's just an a$$hole with money.

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10-24-2008, 06:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Prizner</b><p>he felt that thread was worth posting on his blog? weak!

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10-24-2008, 06:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Jason</b><p>Wait! There was a thread about Coke Vs. Pepsi? I never got to weigh in on that one...<br /><br />These personal tit for tats happen on virtually every messageboard I read. From sports, to politics, to video games. <br /><br />In some ways I wish they didn't exist because I don't need to know these aspects of your lives. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-24-2008, 07:16 PM
Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>&lt;&lt;Brian, agreed. The lesson is to either: a) don't post your real name; or b) get tenure!&gt;&gt;<br /><br />I googled myself, and the blog came up on page 5. I can live with that.<br /><br />

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10-24-2008, 07:18 PM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Leon can you unlock that thread for me so I can make a revision,I dont want people outside this board knowing my imaginary girlfriend won't let the dog out in the morning

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10-24-2008, 07:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>Slow news day. Mark

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10-24-2008, 07:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Sean C</b><p>Guess he was so upset about it that he had to post the same thing twice in response to O'Keefe. I'd make a joke about him posting twice as part of his "we" complex, but I'd rather not gratify him like that. Plus, I'm sure that it was just a stupid technical error like him hitting post twice or something similar.<br /><br />

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10-24-2008, 07:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Greg Theberge</b><p>I agree with E,Daniel on this. Just too funny. I'm still trying to figure out which is more lame; contributing to and arguing on a dorky baseball card forum (as the author seems to imply), or wasting one's time reading it like a peeping tom and thinking that the rest of the world would find it a fascinating read. Just hilarious. I just hope Mark's wife doesn't read that blog or he has some serious 'splaining to do <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />I like the one comment left. Boy, that put him in his place.<br />

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10-24-2008, 08:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Ken McMillan</b><p>looks like a slow news day.<br /><br />kmac

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10-24-2008, 08:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Jantz</b><p>Is that his email addy on the right side of the page?<br /><br />mokeeffe@edit.nydailynews.com<br /><br />All's fair if you post your email addy!<br /><br /><br />Jantz<br />

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10-24-2008, 08:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>I seem to remember so one that blew a cork to finally make it obvious of a troll on the board that was not being taken care of. This person got banned and the troll does not exist any more. Oh, the irony. Now there has been a clamoring to have another put in check with a terrible history but no action is taken because his threads get such big responses. The way this ends is ignoring this person, this doesn't happen so eventually a newspaper writes and article showing what a farce this forum has become with allowing such threads.<br /><br />To me O'Keefe did nothing wrong in reporting this, it only seems to have facts in the content. It's kind of like doing something wrong and someone tells on you and you blame the person telling and make him out to be the bad guy. O'Keefe does need some knowledgable helps when reporting his card stories but at least he is interested.<br /><br />Lee

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10-24-2008, 09:22 PM
Posted By: <b>1880nonsports</b><p>"If you want to mix bank accounts and body fluids......"<br />I missed this slippery slope which is apparently a good thing.

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10-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Rob L</b><p>As a daily lurker to this forum, and a frequent contributer to the Game Used forum (the direction my collecting went), I do have to say that things do seem to get off topic pretty quickly on this board, more so now then in the past. Dan had mentioned that most forums get off topic, however, from experience, the moderators of the GU Forum cut things off pretty quickly. Things are not allowed to get off topic much over there. That being said, I do have to admit that the way things swing on this board can be a bit more entertaining that the GU Forum.<br><br>Rob L<br /><br /><a href="http://www.freewebs.com/loefflerrd/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.freewebs.com/loefflerrd/</a>

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10-24-2008, 09:40 PM
Posted By: <b>John</b><p>LMAO, and to think “B-Dog-Wannbe-BigBucks” used to threaten me with lawsuits if I posted a funny picture. <br /><br />He must be at home working up a voodoo doll over this one..LOL.<br /><br />Ahh man go away for a few weeks overseas and I miss this..."no need to check the board" I said and I missed all this.<br /> <br />But spit take goes to Barry the best line I've read in a long time kudos, I hope you guys appreciate his dry humor!<br /><br />"Barrysloate: Life in prison isn’t so bad…you can still watch TV."<br /><br />P.S. I think it's a riot, kudos to O'Keeffe, but there have been better threads than that one but still a keeper.<br />

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10-24-2008, 10:15 PM
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>That damage was entirely self-inflicted. Most of us came off in a pretty good light, actually; it is only one group that looked like an ass on the blog. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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10-25-2008, 04:47 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>John- thanks for noticing. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-25-2008, 05:43 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>How does that even qualify as an article. He wrote two short paragraphs and the rest was cut and paste.</P><P>my job should be so easy.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>

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10-25-2008, 06:25 AM
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>It seems this is the first exposure to a blog for many Net54ers. Entries to blogs aren't meant to be "stories" in the newspaper sense, and they don't reflect "slow news days." They're often quick-hitters, and they often link to other stories or blogs on the Internet. And quite often, newspaper reporters maintain a blog with no extra compensation. It's not their primary "job."<br /><br />So if you don't like the blog post or the author, fine. But to criticize the "story" because it doesn't fit your definition, well, you're coming off as someone who's misinformed.

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10-25-2008, 09:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>I don't think very many of us take ourselves too seriously and most of us can handle a good laugh at ourselves when deserved. That said, I believe:<br />a) it must have been a slow news day<br />b) those with egg dripping off their faces because of the printing of the blog probably deserve it and<br />c) we all live in a very small, yet very happy, kingdom of cardboard. Unless you get out of the castle once in a while, cross the moat and experience life, you are doomed to a sad and pathetic existence.<br /><br />This O'Keeffe guy needs to come to a convention sometime, hang out and share a beer or two and he'd probably have a very different perspective of card collectors. After looking at the "who are we" threads that pop up once a year in which the collectors share pictures of their families and especially their kids and grandkids, you see a group of very nice people, probably a helluva lot nicer (and kinder) than some journalists who derive pleasure and enjoyment from mockery and misfortune and have the ethical capacity of a teaspoon.

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10-25-2008, 10:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Definitely a slow news day.

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10-25-2008, 11:14 AM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>YAWN. Who cares about some pointless article in some silly rag. The only people who read that are the people on this forum. I would suggest stopping going to the link. It gives his editor the impression that people care.<br />JimB

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10-25-2008, 11:37 AM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Jim B.,<br /><br />People will go to the link for the same reason you did, how do expect others to do what you say but not do what you do? <br /><br />This is the evolution of the board as it has become, I don't know why everyone is appalled.<br /><br />Lee

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10-25-2008, 11:40 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey Lee, welcome back! <br /><br />Um, is there another vintage baseball card board that is just filled with goodness and quality posting?

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10-25-2008, 12:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Funny you should ask Jeff. Is it possible to have a vintage board that stays on topic and doesn't have carzy rants on it? But "we" would get in trouble if any information like that would be let out. "we" don't like to be in trouble. I would get sent down to my vintage TV room. Whoa is me <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/?action=view&current=IMG_0405.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/IMG_0405.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/?action=view&current=IMG_0406.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/IMG_0406.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/?action=view&current=IMG_0407.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/IMG_0407.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/?action=view&current=IMG_0408.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/IMG_0408.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/?action=view&current=IMG_0409.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/IMG_0409.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><br /><br /><a href="http://s280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/?action=view&current=IMG_0410.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/bowlingshoeguy/IMG_0410.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><br /><br />This is what happens when you are single your whole life and have no female to tell you how your house should look. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br />By the way, I would rather have a female around (that I like) rather than money to spend on cards.<br /><br />Lee

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10-25-2008, 12:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>"Whoa is me"<br /><br />The future epitaph of Joey Lawrence.

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10-25-2008, 01:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Lee, I swear as I was looking at those pictures, scrolling down, I said to myself "no way is this guy married -- his wife would never let that happen."

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10-25-2008, 01:11 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Paradis</b><p>Lee, you are right. A woman in the house would have made you straighten out the Speaker T3, do something with the PVC pipe, put away the Twizzlers, fold the blanket and dust the TV.<br />Other than that, I think the room looks great.<br /><br />Maybe the article did some good? I (I mean "we") don't see any crazy posts from some of the notables!<br /><br />The next post I start should get me on the local news, then Mike and Mike, the Today Show, then 60 minutes!!!<br /><br />Dan

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10-25-2008, 01:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Kudos Lee....<br /> I have my Office upstairs and my "sports cave" in the basement that look simliar... Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS I am married with 2 kids and still have 2 huge sports rooms...smiley<br /><br />PS Hi Jeff, You spent too much time at Dook... <br />

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10-25-2008, 01:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Lee, -- you should get that vintage furniture graded too!<br /><br />Just kidding, totally awesome. Love the T3s and the photos.

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10-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>The recliner has been recently upgraded, the couch with hideabed may never leave the room without getting broke to get it out of the basement. There also is a new attention, a blow up Lite beer chair. As for the PVC pipe, haven't quite figured out what to do with that, it's the drain for the sink upstairs. It is an ever changing room since it is easy to change out the cards and M101-2 Sporting News.<br /><br />Lee

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10-25-2008, 02:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Use your 1980's shiney stuff to paper over the PVC. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-25-2008, 02:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Lee, <br /><br />Everyone else is missing the big picture here. Those of us with wives always end up storing the snack food in some "place" (pantry, drawer, cabinet, etc). YOU have managed to strategically, sprinkle it around the usable seating areas. Twizzlers in one place, candy in another, cheese crunches in still another, but always something to eat within reach. <br /><br />You must be some sort of an ergonomic engineer or something!

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10-26-2008, 06:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Lee,<br /><br />That's quite a collection all displayed in one room! As with many other married men, my collection lives underground in boxes or albums, not in the glory of plain daylight. I like how you've built a running display for the graded cards. Thanks for sharin'<br /><br />Best,<br />SGL