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09-02-2008, 05:40 AM
Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>I'm curious if its ever been discussed or documented...<br /><br />Are there any known numbers or **estimates** of the number of each N172 OJ cards produced?<br />

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09-02-2008, 01:13 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I know some are quite common and others extremely rare. Perhaps Jay Miller and RIchard Masson's forthcoming book on the set will shed some light.<br />JimB

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09-02-2008, 01:28 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Don't leave out Joe G.

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09-16-2008, 05:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>Can anyone shed some light on this? Are there any books currently available just about N172 Old Judges?

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09-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Eric- there is a major book that will be out soon, but it is not available yet.

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09-16-2008, 06:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>I understand the Jay Miller book will be released in a few months. Until then, Lew Lipset Vol. 1 is probably your best bet. Several chapters are devoted to N172s.

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09-16-2008, 06:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Eric, the book will explain why requesting a card of Charles Kremmeyer on the B/S/T probably won't help you obtain one . . . and MUCH more. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Best Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski

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09-16-2008, 07:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>No one has responded to the initial request. Any production numbers available or a guess ? Original production vs surviving copies ! Any company records from the 19th Century available ?

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09-17-2008, 04:52 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>There are no production numbers for really any set, so you always have to make an educated guess. I would venture to say that OJ's were issued in extremely large numbers, based on the tens of thousands of survivors and the popularity of the cards.

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09-17-2008, 03:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>Joe...<br /><br />Actually... my post did get me progress... someone that saw it put me in touch with a famous TV personality that gets mentioned here on the board... and he was willing to deal a Kremmeyer... at a value of about $100K.<br /><br />Eric

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09-17-2008, 03:17 PM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Wink Martindale?

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09-17-2008, 03:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Okay, now I gotta hear about this Kremmeyer and why it's a 100K card.<br /><br />Edited to add: nevermind...I looked him up and see he's one of the California League players.<br /><br />

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09-17-2008, 03:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>It's a $100K card because Wink hasn't worked since the eighties and is hard-up for cash.

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09-17-2008, 03:34 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I gotta think "Wink" probably wouldn't even sell it if someone really did offer him 100K.