Show us your T206 American Beauty 460 cards [Archive]

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08-02-2008, 08:31 PM

Posted By: Ted Zanidakis<img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f00/u923218.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f04/u6840392.jpg"> My 1st American Beauty 460 card was Zach Wheat....and, it got me hooked on collect- ing these backs, since I figured with a mere 103 cards that they would be easy......but, not so. The following is the maximum number of possible T206's that are in this sub-set. 55......350/460 Subjects 48......460-only Subjects ---- 103 total Note....the Six Super-Prints (Chance, 2-Chase's, Cobb, Evers, Matty) do not exist with AB 460 backs. Furthermore, we can expect that a number of these 103 candidates are AB 460 "no prints". Currently, I have 40 - T206's with AB 460 backs. To date, approx. 65 of the 103 have been confirmed with AB 460 backs. My theory is that T206's with the AB 460 back were the very last T206 cards to be is- sued (circa Spring/Summer of 1911). If I am correct, it would be neat to have the final printing run of the T206 cards. In any event, how about showing us your American Beauty 460 cards ? TED Z

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08-02-2008, 08:40 PM

Posted By: MikeHow about starting with a beater ... my only 460. <img src="http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/frohme/10449.jpg">

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08-02-2008, 09:01 PM

Posted By: fkw<img src="http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1909t206tannehillsgc60.jpg"> <img src="http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1909t206sheckardab.jpg"> <img src="http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1909t206lakeab2.jpg">

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08-02-2008, 09:13 PM

Posted By: steve yawitz<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/yawie99/yawiesbaseballcards/stlouiscardinals/websize/T206%20Geyer%20_American%20Beauty%20460_.jpg"> <a href="http://imageevent.com/yawie99" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/yawie99</a>

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08-02-2008, 09:44 PM

Posted By: EricHere is my one and only. Just picked it up in the last week. <img src="http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/crazylocomerk2/1909-11T206DevoreJoshAB460.jpg">

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08-02-2008, 09:58 PM

Posted By: DarrenI have Hummer, Ford, McGraw(glove on hip), Tinker(bat on shoulder), and Oldring(batting).

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08-02-2008, 10:04 PM

Posted By: mark <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217735979.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217735994.JPG"> "NEWSON"

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08-03-2008, 01:51 AM

Posted By: Jim DaleGot an SGC30 Doc Crandal w\cap, don't have a scan but can get one if needed.

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08-03-2008, 07:59 AM

Posted By: Ray PiskadloMy lone example... <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217771954.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217771965.JPG">

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08-03-2008, 07:59 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisQuite beat up; but nevertheless, very tough to find this Lajoie with an American Beauty 460 back. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f03/u4284310.jpg"> TED Z

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08-03-2008, 08:19 AM

Posted By: Jeff Lichtman <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217773109.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217773163.JPG">

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08-03-2008, 09:20 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisNow, it's my turn to be jealous of you regarding Hal Chase cards. SGC 30 is not really your style, guy....I'm sure that you would like to sell this Chase card to me ? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> TED Z

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08-03-2008, 10:14 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisA 350/460 Series card of Burch <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f04/u2755734.jpg"> TED Z

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08-03-2008, 01:27 PM

Posted By: BillI have Chance (Batting), Ford, Geyer, Hummel, McGraw (Glove on hip), Needham, Schulte (Back View) and this Gandil. I am always interested in trading for AB backs. Thanks, Bill <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217791588.JPG">

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08-03-2008, 03:27 PM

Posted By: Iggy<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217798640.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217798651.JPG">

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08-03-2008, 05:31 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanTed, you're probably one of the few guys on the board that I'd probably GIVE the card to. I picked up like 5 Chases with rare backs in like a 3 month period a couple years back...and now I rarely see anymore. Is there a better set of images in the entire Monster than the Chases?

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08-03-2008, 05:43 PM

Posted By: Brian E.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1217807014.JPG">

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08-03-2008, 06:25 PM

Posted By: Mike Brockman<img src="http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/autograf99/wiltse_front.jpg"> <img src="http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/autograf99/wiltse_back.jpg">

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08-03-2008, 07:29 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisDOC CRANDALL......460-only Series card <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f00/u2657248.jpg"> TED Z

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08-03-2008, 09:21 PM

Posted By: B.C.Danielstell me I have found the McGraw to be the most common HoFer to find! I have two. What say you? BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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08-03-2008, 11:50 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisBcD Which McGraw are you referring to ? This pose......or the Portrait with Cap version ? <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f09/u6463194.jpg"> TED Z

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08-04-2008, 11:23 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThree more....Bergen....we think Harry Camnitz (Howie's younger brother)....Leach. We now have 23 different AB 460 cards accounted for here. Many more to go....so, show and/or tell us about yours ? <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f03/u9381691.jpg"> TED Z

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08-04-2008, 01:14 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Ted, Here's one for you.... <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0002.jpg"> <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0009.jpg"> I'll add a list of my 460's tonight when I catch up... Be well Brian

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08-04-2008, 01:48 PM

Posted By: DarrenBrian, that is perhaps the cleanest back I've ever seen....nice.

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08-04-2008, 01:48 PM

Posted By: DarrenBrian, that is perhaps the cleanest back I've ever seen....nice.

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08-04-2008, 02:20 PM

Posted By: barry arnoldmy AB 460 is the Chase trophy. great work. all the best, barry

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08-04-2008, 02:33 PM

Posted By: John<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/websize/sch_1.jpg"> I have a few more I'll update later..here's one that I haven't seen posted. John

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08-04-2008, 10:40 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisWith Brian's Duffy, John's Schaefer, and my Overall, Meyers & Pfeffer......we have accounted for 28 - AB 460 cards. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f03/u6420873.jpg"> TED Z

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08-05-2008, 12:22 AM

Posted By: BCDthe pose you posted seems very common for AB baks to me BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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08-05-2008, 09:54 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisI agree with your observation about the McGraw (glove) card. I have seen about 5 of them with AB 460 backs.. I have never seen the other 460 Series McGraw (Portrait with Cap) with an AB 460 back. Anyone out there have this McGraw with an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back ? TED Z

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08-05-2008, 10:34 AM

Posted By: Todd SchultzI don't see the Tinker bat off shoulder in this thread, so here'e one: <img src="http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/nolemmings/t206tinker.jpg">

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08-05-2008, 11:49 AM

Posted By: BillJust picked up a Pelty Vertical and Sheckard Glove Showing with American Beauty 460 backs. BB

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08-05-2008, 12:39 PM

Posted By: B.C.DanielsTed, I have a Johnson hands at chest in a 5 holder (350 series) I bought from Quan and a Christy Mathewson (350) in a psa 5 holder as well from Tony. Will try to find them to scan later~ BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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08-05-2008, 01:29 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisYour Johnson and Mathewson are great cards......but, we are only concentrating only on AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards in this thread. I highly recommend that you start a thread on the American Beauty 350 cards....starting with these two. I don't think its been done on this forum <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Best regards. TED Z

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08-05-2008, 01:30 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisThanks BILL Hope you don't mind me showing my Sheckard and Pelty. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f02/u1118529.jpg"> TED Z

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08-05-2008, 02:05 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Ted, Here are a few more 460's.... <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0004-3.jpg"> <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0003-8-1.jpg"> <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0005-4-1.jpg"> <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0002-11-1.jpg"> <img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0006-6-1.jpg">

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08-05-2008, 03:33 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisHey BRIAN Let's see some more of your AB 460 cards. Here's 2 more of mine....we now have 33 different on display....that is approx. 50% of the known AB 460 cards in the T206 set. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f04/u2064059.jpg"> TED Z

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08-05-2008, 04:19 PM

Posted By: T206CollectorGandil: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-T206-Chick-Gandil-PSA-7-American-Beauty-460-Back_W0QQitemZ200242899539QQihZ010QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-T206-Chick-Gandil-PSA-7-American-Beauty-460-Back_W0QQitemZ200242899539QQihZ010QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a> Tinker: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-TINKER-HOF-CUBS-SCARCE-AMERICAN-BEAUTY-460-BACK_W0QQitemZ160268589410QQihZ006QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-TINKER-HOF-CUBS-SCARCE-AMERICAN-BEAUTY-460-BACK_W0QQitemZ160268589410QQihZ006QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a> Sheckard: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-SHECKARD-CUBS-SCARCE-AMERICAN-BEAUTY-460-BACK_W0QQitemZ150278939347QQihZ005QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-SHECKARD-CUBS-SCARCE-AMERICAN-BEAUTY-460-BACK_W0QQitemZ150278939347QQihZ005QQcategoryZ31718 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a> Let me ask, does the 350 with frame have a different potential population than the 350 without frame? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!

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08-05-2008, 08:26 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisConroy (a 350/460 Subject) is 34th T206 on display of approx. 65 confirmed AB 460 cards. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ab460conroy.jpg"> TED Z

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08-06-2008, 01:39 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisWilhelm is another AB 460 from the 350/460 Series. The 55 cards from the 350/460 Series cards are tougher to find with AB 460 backs than the 460-only cards. These 55 cards with AMERICAN BEAUTY backs are mostly found with AB 350 (no frame) backs. So far, this is certainly evident with the display of cards in this thread....only 12 of the 34 cards are from the 350/460 Series. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f01/u8495325.jpg"> TED Z

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08-06-2008, 06:10 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Ted, I have at least a dozen 460's that I haven't scanned, but I think they have all been covered in the thread except for Mullin batting. Be well Brian

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08-06-2008, 06:23 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisIf you get a chance, show us your Mullin (batting). We don't have too many of those 350/460 cards. I have a few more left to show, here's Latham and Snodgrass <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f05/u8056803.jpg"> TED Z

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08-07-2008, 02:14 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisDowney (batting) is a 350/460 card with an AB 460 back. This card brings the total on display here of 39 different Subjects. An interesting side-fact is that 28 of the confirmed 65 cards with AB 460 backs are the BATTING poses. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f09/u9743465.jpg"> TED Z

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08-08-2008, 06:12 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisFrill is in the 460-only Series......this pix gets us to 40 different AB 460 cards on display here. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f08/3928183.jpg"> TED Z

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08-08-2008, 06:15 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisJust picked up this AB 460....Payne is in the 460-only Series. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f08/u5451237.jpg"> TED Z

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08-09-2008, 11:18 PM

Posted By: Ted Zanidakis My 1st American Beauty 460 card was Zach Wheat....and, it got me hooked on collect- ing these backs, since I figured with a mere 103 cards that they would be easy. Not so. The following is the maximum number of possible T206's that are in this sub-set. 55......350/460 Subjects 48......460-only Subjects ---- 103 total Note....the Six Super-Prints (Chance, 2-Chase's, Cobb, Evers, Matty) do not exist with AB 460 backs. Furthermore, we can expect that a number of these 103 candidates are AB 460 "no prints". Currently, I have 40 - T206's with AB 460 backs. To date, approx. 65 of the 103 have been confirmed with AB 460 backs. My theory is that T206's with the AB 460 back were the very last T206 cards to be is- sued (circa Spring/Summer of 1911). If I am correct, it would be neat to have the final printing run of the T206 cards. In any event, how about showing us your American Beauty 460 cards ? TED Z

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08-09-2008, 11:31 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisTo quote the famous Count Basie......"One more time"...... The 460 Series card of Chance with an AB 460 back <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f00/u83124.jpg"> TED Z

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08-10-2008, 12:01 PM

Posted By: stefan<img src="http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/stefan41playball/devoreAB460noframe.jpg">

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08-12-2008, 03:21 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisWilletts is one more Subject from the 350/460 Series. This one I have with both the AB 350 and the AB 460 backs. Note....the difference between these two with respect to their Factory # and State. The 350 card was shipped to the very popular Factory #25 plant in Virginia in 1910. The 460 card was shipped to the Durham, NC plant, which was producing the American Beauty cigarettes at the time of the American Tobacco Co. break-up in 1911. <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f09/u7927152.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/f03/u3641808.jpg"> There are at least 20 more T206's with AB 460 backs that have not yet been displayed. We have 43 different AB 460 cards on display here....who is going to make it #44 ? TED Z

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09-06-2008, 01:45 PM

Posted By: dan mckee<img src=http://danmckee.com/pictures/Ab001.jpg> <img src=http://danmckee.com/pictures/Ab002.jpg>

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09-06-2008, 01:49 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Dan, What the hell are you doing with a slab???? Is that really you? Or is it Dave? Be well Brian PS You should send that overpriced Slabbed Matty to me... And I'll unslab my PSA 4 Matty and trade even.... I'll send my address shortly. PS 2 Dave knows I'm kidding for those who don't know me...

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09-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Posted By: dan mckeeI only slab stuff for sale so I can hook sunfish.

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09-06-2008, 01:54 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Dan, More like Whales.... Or Largemouth Bass... Be well Brian PS Do you still have the CB Speak easy?

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09-06-2008, 01:57 PM

Posted By: dan mckeeNah he is gone unfortunately, also sold the BL 460 Baker and Red Hindu Baker at National. Dan

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09-06-2008, 02:31 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner I still have my PSA 6 Pied 42 Baker.... But I would trade it for the Speaker. Be well Brian

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09-06-2008, 03:40 PM

Posted By: Paul S<img src="http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z26/pspec/T206_Gandil_AmerBty_fandb.jpg">

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09-07-2008, 12:37 PM

Posted By: Ron RiceI have a Buck Freeman T206 AB 460 PSA 4. Another batting pose for the list, if you don't have it already.

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09-07-2008, 05:26 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisPlease check your Freeman card, as it cannot have an American Beauty 460 back ? ? Freeman was printed in the 350-only Series and should only exist with an American Beauty 350 (frame) back. However, if you are correct, you have a very, very scarce T206 front/back combination that has never been seen before. TED Z