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08-18-2008, 06:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Bruce Dorskind</b><p><br /><br />This year the Rangers' Ian Kinsler and the Phils' Chase Utly have a strong chance to be named MVPs.<br />If both of them win the the MVP Awards, it will be the first time in more than 50 years that the MVP of each League was a second baseman.<br /><br /><br />The last time it happened, both players appeared in the same baseball card set.<br /><br />Who were the players and show us their cards from the winning year.<br /><br /><br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

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08-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Bruces,<br /><br />Are you (y'all?) just having a chuckle at our expense on this one? This question doesn't seem to add up. As far as I can recall, only three second basemen won the award longer than 50 years ago, and never one in each league in the same season. Can you give me a hint as to the loophole? Is the trick that one of them may have plaed 2B minimally in another season?

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08-18-2008, 08:18 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Not sure that it ever happened.<br /><br /><br />Steve

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08-18-2008, 08:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>The Chalmers award was won by Evers and Collins in 1914.

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08-18-2008, 08:25 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1219069536.JPG">

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08-18-2008, 08:29 AM
Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p><img src="http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/abravefan11/EversCJ.jpg">

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08-18-2008, 08:31 AM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>I didn't think back far enough.

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08-18-2008, 09:02 AM
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>this would be the first time in nearly 100 years. as much as i wish it were so, it is not 1964 anymore. but i have to say, i highly doubt either player will win the award. kinsler's team has no hcance of making the play offs which questions his value to the team and utley has cooled off a ton lately. he had 19 homers at the end of may and has only hit 11 since.

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08-18-2008, 09:31 AM
Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>Here's a line this Yankee fan never thought he would write:<br /><br />Kevin Youkilis is the AL MVP so far.

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08-18-2008, 09:56 AM
Posted By: <b>brock</b><p>Howard,<br />That has to be the funniest thing i have heard this whole year so far. It's going to be Josh Hamilton(which i dont agree with people when they call him a Hero) or K-Rod.

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08-18-2008, 10:14 AM
Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>I agree w/you, Brock, that one of those guys might win it. I was just giving my opinion on who I would vote for. I also agree that Hamilton is no hero. It's impressive and admirable how he has come back from his (self-inflicted) woes but I'm more impressed w/the guys who never did drugs in the first place.

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08-18-2008, 10:21 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I'll go with K-Rod. He'll have 60+ saves on the team with the best record.

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08-18-2008, 10:39 AM
Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>I have a bad feeling that you're right, Barry. Hamilton will probably lose some votes to his teammate Kinsler and I don't think the Angels have any other viable candidates. If K-Rod wins it could be the worst MVP choice ever. He's on pace for fewer than 70 IP, is issuing over 5 BBs per, and is arguably not even the best reliever on his own team this year (I'd say Arredondo has been better and Shields about as good).

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08-18-2008, 10:42 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Saves is a tricky statistic, and I've only seen the guy pitch against the Yankees. But he still may get it.

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08-18-2008, 11:07 AM
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>i think cliff lee might be a darkhorse for the AL MVP award. right now he is 17-2 with a 2.43 ERA. the indians as a team have only won 56 games. that means lee by himself is responsible for winning 30 percent of all of clevelands games. i dont think there is any other single player who can make the claim that they alone are responsible for 30 percent of their team's wins.

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08-18-2008, 11:17 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Lee is the current favorite for the Cy Young, but not the MVP.<br /><br />How about Sabathia for the NL Cy Young? He's 7-0 with a 1.55 ERA (but it will go to Webb).

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08-18-2008, 11:34 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Look at Santana's statistics compared to Webb's; they are eerily similar but for wins. Had the Mets' bullpen not blown six Santana wins, he might be the leading Cy Young candidate.

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08-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Posted By: <b>ali_lapoint</b><p>lee will bring the debate and focus of "value" in the most valuable player award. i dont think it can be argued that k-rod is the most valuable player to the angels considering he hasn't been particularly dominant and has a walk ratio that would be almost 4.5 per 9 innings and isn't even the best pitcher on the team.

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08-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Santana has been pitching great but the Mets' bullpen can be god awful. Didn't he leave a game recently well ahead after 8 innings and the relievers surrendered six runs in the 9th?